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post #41911 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

As bad as this sounds, since they're not on the market anymore, you could ask for more than they are worth. Just stick an OBO at the end, or gradually reduce the price over time, unless you need the money fast.

I see baron took your advice...oh wait, you were talking to losservatore. wink.gif
post #41912 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

in terms of speakers, I would recommend adding the receiver and subwoofer before you worry about MORE speakers. Getting that "core" 5.1 setup well established is the best starting point.
on the receiver side, considering how small your room is you don't need much power at all, so I would get the cheapest receiver that meets your feature needs. Since you are looking at the Denon line, MultEQ XT goes down to a fairly reasonable price point so you should get great sound quality even spending much less than $750. And all the current xx13 models that have XT will also have the other stuff -- networking with Sirius/XM, Pandora, Spotify, AirPlay, etc., 3D support, so on.
(to improve sound quality significantly you'd want to jump up to an XT32 receiver, but that's a big leap above the $750 price point).
the big question for you on the features front is how much legacy video support (non HDMI) you will need; the cheaper the receiver these days, the fewer analog video inputs it will have. For example, the current Denon 2113ci has only one component video input and two composite; when you step up to the 2313ci, it adds one more of each. Three component video inputs is somewhat of a rarity these days, typically found only on very expensive receivers.
so if you can get by without the old PS2 and Xbox, I would get the 2113ci. If you want to hook up two devices with component, get the 2313ci. That would support both the old Xbox and PS2 with the VCR moving to composite. The 2313ci also has a slight advantage in having Audyssey DSX, which gives you more options for 7ch expansion if you add two more speakers.


Thanks, I appreciate it!
post #41913 of 51452
Think I am going to consentrate my efforts on trying to find a pair of 1.8's or 2.8's or even the 2.2i for a 2 channel system.
Heard a lot of good things on hear about those 3 but I have a feeling finding them in great shape at somewhat of a good price could be hard.
post #41914 of 51452
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Think I am going to consentrate my efforts on trying to find a pair of 1.8's or 2.8's or even the 2.2i for a 2 channel system.
Heard a lot of good things on hear about those 3 but I have a feeling finding them in great shape at somewhat of a good price could be hard.

Recently in my area, a number of them have popped up...two pairs of 2.4i's, and two pairs of 2.2i's. One of the 2.2i's is, of course, the pair I just purchased. The other I auditioned, but had some funkiness about it (missing screws, rattling woofer at high volume), etc.
It does seem like most people hold onto these speakers, but with things the way they are these days, it also seems that certain owners are parting ways with them. Be patient, and I'm guessing you'll find them...for what price, I'm not sure.

Crazy scenario: A guy in Tarzana (might still be up?) was selling 2.4i's, matching center, matching surrounds, and 12" energy sub...all for $1,800. That's more than I had to spend, but by all accounts...that was a stellar deal to be had. The guy was moving, so had to liquidate everything.
So...keep searching!

Just for reference, I grabbed my 2.2i's (with their stands) for $675.
post #41915 of 51452
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Recently in my area, a number of them have popped up...two pairs of 2.4i's, and two pairs of 2.2i's. One of the 2.2i's is, of course, the pair I just purchased. The other I auditioned, but had some funkiness about it (missing screws, rattling woofer at high volume), etc.
It does seem like most people hold onto these speakers, but with things the way they are these days, it also seems that certain owners are parting ways with them. Be patient, and I'm guessing you'll find them...for what price, I'm not sure.
Crazy scenario: A guy in Tarzana (might still be up?) was selling 2.4i's, matching center, matching surrounds, and 12" energy sub...all for $1,800. That's more than I had to spend, but by all accounts...that was a stellar deal to be had. The guy was moving, so had to liquidate everything.
So...keep searching!
Just for reference, I grabbed my 2.2i's (with their stands) for $675.


Thanks johnb, dont see those to often in my area, been looking for some time, a game of patients
post #41916 of 51452
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Dont' know the value of the V6.3's but the RC-70's are pretty popular around here. you should be able to get $700/pr for the RC-70's's with no problem. Maybe a little more.


$700? I didn't catch up the $800 sale.when I bought then they where at $499 each.
post #41917 of 51452
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

I decided to repost from a week or so ago. If I sell the RC-70's I will only make 50.00
I will lose money on the CF-70's with the CC-10 and the eswc-10 sub.
V6-2's make 50.00
Not a big money maker by any means especially when you figure the time and gas to get these
to Fedex for shipping. So not a bad deal by any means unless your looking for a steal of a deal
though if your within driving distance the CF-70's package is a steal. Before the RC-70's came back
on the market there was a lot of talk about the CF-70's on this thread. They really are not that bad of a speaker.
Yes there are better towers out there but for home theatre and music at 200.00 for each tower and center thats a
good system for most.

Hi, I'm brand new to the forums and noticed you are selling your CF-70's. What is your price for just the CF-70's with shipping to MN? I already have the CC-10 and am looking for cf-50's or 70's

Thanks,
post #41918 of 51452
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

$700? I didn't catch up the $800 sale.when I bought then they where at $499 each.

Oh, well then charge more! Plus like someone earlier said they are in demand so you should get your price.
post #41919 of 51452
Guys,
Need a help from you all in completing my 5.1 setup. Below is my current configuration and am looking for a pair of surround speakers to complete my 5.1 system. What do you recommend?

Current Setup:
Denon 2113
Energy RC10 for front R/L
Energy RC-LCR center
Energy S10.3 sub
Viewsonic pro8200 will be added soon.

Live in a typical apartment with a smallish living room. Speakers will be mounted on stands.

Use:
60% Movies - 20% Music and 20% Cable TV

What I am looking for:
A room filling sound experience, I dont want the surround speakers to hit me on my ears for every sound in that channel but only occasionally like when a bullet fires from the a side or a helicopter flying by. Hope I have made it clear.

Budget:
350-450$ for the pair.
post #41920 of 51452
given the description you want bipole/dipole type surrounds. Unfortunately it's going to be difficult to find the perfect match (RC-R) or even the slightly-less-than-perfect match (Veritas V-S) because everything is discontinued and stock is drying up. looks like WWStereo (authorized dealer) was the V-S in stock on their eBay store for $245 shipped each, but that's a lot of money.... but they will be the best match currently available.
post #41921 of 51452
I just post the rc-70s at the classified thread for $800.buyer have to paid shipping.they are in excellent condition.anyone interested pm me.
Edited by losservatore - 11/8/12 at 3:21pm
post #41922 of 51452
wwstereo.com showing Veritas V6.3 for 799.99 code word stimulus.
post #41923 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

given the description you want bipole/dipole type surrounds. Unfortunately it's going to be difficult to find the perfect match (RC-R) or even the slightly-less-than-perfect match (Veritas V-S) because everything is discontinued and stock is drying up. looks like WWStereo (authorized dealer) was the V-S in stock on their eBay store for $245 shipped each, but that's a lot of money.... but they will be the best match currently available.

He might be able to get a pair of RC-R from Video Revolution. I got a pair from them couple weeks ago.
post #41924 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

He might be able to get a pair of RC-R from Video Revolution. I got a pair from them couple weeks ago.
Out of curiosity, what did they charge you if you don't mind my asking?
post #41925 of 51452
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Originally Posted by mattdub1 View Post

Hi, I'm brand new to the forums and noticed you are selling your CF-70's. What is your price for just the CF-70's with shipping to MN? I already have the CC-10 and am looking for cf-50's or 70's
Thanks,

I first would need your zip code, PM me with it
post #41926 of 51452
Hello all,

A friend turned me on to Energy speakers about six months ago and obviously I'm now a fan. I'm currently running a set of RC-Micros with an S10.3 in my great room (24x18) against a Pioneer VSX-1121-k around a Sharp 70" and am amazed. Even in a room that large it works wonderfully - although missing some mid-range of course. Speaker size and aesthetics were an issue for the wife so these work out great in combination for that area.

I've done my research and I'm now in the middle of building a dedicated theater in a finished attic and have chosen to go with the following:
-center: CC-10
-fronts: CF-30s
-sides: CR-10s
-rears: CR-10s
-subs: 2 x ESW-M8s (positive I'll get criticism on this choice smile.gif )

Room size: 21 x 16 or 24 x 16 depending on where I put a separation wall for the other 16 x 16 or 13 x 16 of the attic for an office. Note this will also determine whether the stairwell to the second floor intrudes on the theater room or the office - I can build the wall on either side of the stairs. Also, the ceiling is vaulted a bit with knee walls 4' high, and a flat ceiling 6' wide. Acoustics may be a bit challenging but I think I'll do alright. I should note that I do have an additional set of RC-Micros sitting in their box and have thought about incorporating those somehow, maybe using two micros as rears and swapping out the rear CR-10s for front highs. There has been such great deals on all of these speakers lately that I just bit the bullet and bought them over the last three months watching and waiting. I won't be buying the receiver and projector until the build is finished.

Any opinions/feedback would be appreciated.
post #41927 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

given the description you want bipole/dipole type surrounds. Unfortunately it's going to be difficult to find the perfect match (RC-R) or even the slightly-less-than-perfect match (Veritas V-S) because everything is discontinued and stock is drying up. looks like WWStereo (authorized dealer) was the V-S in stock on their eBay store for $245 shipped each, but that's a lot of money.... but they will be the best match currently available.

Thanks for responding.. are there any other alternatives? 245$ for each is out of my budget for surround speakers for sure. Can I look at other brands and will it severly have a mismatch with my curren energy speakers?

Would CR-10 be a choice worth lookin at?
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

He might be able to get a pair of RC-R from Video Revolution. I got a pair from them couple weeks ago.

Thanks for the information, I just sent them a quote request. Can you please let me know how much it cost you? and do you know any good sites where I can look for used ones?
post #41928 of 51452
I just called Video Revolution - was told someone put up a post online that we had Energy RC series in stock and we got a huge number of orders on a single day from all over the country and sold them all out same day. They only have in ceiling left.
post #41929 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Psyence View Post

Hello all,

A friend turned me on to Energy speakers about six months ago and obviously I'm now a fan. I'm currently running a set of RC-Micros with an S10.3 in my great room (24x18) against a Pioneer VSX-1121-k around a Sharp 70" and am amazed. Even in a room that large it works wonderfully - although missing some mid-range of course. Speaker size and aesthetics were an issue for the wife so these work out great in combination for that area.

I've done my research and I'm now in the middle of building a dedicated theater in a finished attic and have chosen to go with the following:
-center: CC-10
-fronts: CF-30s
-sides: CR-10s
-rears: CR-10s
-subs: 2 x ESW-M8s (positive I'll get criticism on this choice smile.gif )

Room size: 21 x 16 or 24 x 16 depending on where I put a separation wall for the other 16 x 16 or 13 x 16 of the attic for an office. Note this will also determine whether the stairwell to the second floor intrudes on the theater room or the office - I can build the wall on either side of the stairs. Also, the ceiling is vaulted a bit with knee walls 4' high, and a flat ceiling 6' wide. .

what have you already bought and what are you PLANNING to buy (plus your overall budget left for what you haven't bought).

as you have anticipated, those subwoofers aren't really the right choice for a dedicated theater space of that size. Hopefully you haven't already bought them! They are designed to provide a lot of output in the mid-bass region and (obviously) to fit in a room where space is a premium. But they will do almost nothing with "subsonic" bass (40Hz and below). For a dedicated theater you want a sub that can move a lot of air, and 21x16 with vaulted ceilings is a lot of space.

Otherwise your speaker setup looks fine, assuming it's already all been purchased. The CR-10's as all four surround channels will work great, and if you buy a 9ch receiver you could add the RC-Micro's as front height speakers (which hopefully you could mount high up due to the vaulted ceiling).
post #41930 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Psyence View Post

Hello all,
-subs: 2 x ESW-M8s (positive I'll get criticism on this choice smile.gif )
Room size: 21 x 16 or 24 x 16 depending on where I put a separation wall for the other 16 x 16 or 13 x 16 of the attic for an office. Note this will also determine whether the stairwell to the second floor intrudes on the theater room or the office - I can build the wall on either side of the stairs. Also, the ceiling is vaulted a bit with knee walls 4' high, and a flat ceiling 6' wide.

To add to what batpig already said, those subs are designed specifically for people who need a very compact size, but are very limited in output in comparison to what you can get otherwise. One HSU VTF-2 MK4 or Outlaw Audio Plus would be a better choice, I would think.
post #41931 of 51452
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

Out of curiosity, what did they charge you if you don't mind my asking?

I paid $450 + 40 shipping. More than what I want to pay but had to get since they are almost impossible to find.
post #41932 of 51452
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Originally Posted by SandyMan007 View Post

Thanks for responding.. are there any other alternatives? 245$ for each is out of my budget for surround speakers for sure. Can I look at other brands and will it severly have a mismatch with my curren energy speakers?
Would CR-10 be a choice worth lookin at?
Thanks for the information, I just sent them a quote request. Can you please let me know how much it cost you? and do you know any good sites where I can look for used ones?

I paid $450 + 40 shipping. I have a new set of C-R3 I can sell if my friend doesn't want to buy my set up (C-3, C-C3, C-R3).

http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/energy_cc3_cr3_s102.htm
post #41933 of 51452
I am trying to sell my pair of e:XL-R speakers but I'm not sure what to sell them for locally on craiglist. Anyone more familiar with the e:XL series? I am keeping my 16's and C but I need some money and if I'm forced to sell any speakers it'll be ones I am not currently using.
post #41934 of 51452
I doubt you will get much more than $50 for them, considering their age and the general lack of demand for the e:XL series. They are somewhat unique with their design making them nice surround speakers, so maybe post them for $100 OBO and see if you can get someone to offer more than $50...
post #41935 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I doubt you will get much more than $50 for them, considering their age and the general lack of demand for the e:XL series. They are somewhat unique with their design making them nice surround speakers, so maybe post them for $100 OBO and see if you can get someone to offer more than $50...

Good idea. I would totally use them, but I have SO many speakers already, it's insane. Since I'm using a 3.0 setup for my PC that is just around the corner from my 7.1 system, I have no use (or place to put) surround speakers.
post #41936 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Good idea. I would totally use them, but I have SO many speakers already, it's insane. Since I'm using a 3.0 setup for my PC that is just around the corner from my 7.1 system, I have no use (or place to put) surround speakers.
for $50, I might be interested in them - if nothing else then to use them to sell with my e:XL26s and e:XL-C
post #41937 of 51452
batpig and cel4145 a thanks for the feedback

I've purchased everything but the subs in fact (at ridiculously low prices too). I'll look into what's out there for subs, if I can grab another s10.3 I think I'll be happy which would do fine. Budget is negotiable however I tend to look for decent quality at the right price point (in everything I shop for) which is another reason I fell in love with Energy. I'll see what space I'll have left over but on initial calculation I should be able to use the additional micros for the front highs.

I appreciate the feedback from you both, greatly appreciated!
post #41938 of 51452
ayayay

i just realized something. a few months ago i got the andrew jones pioneer fs51s and the c21 center. since i didnt want to bother getting new stands or wall mount the pioneer bs21s, i just left my energy take classic surrounds in place.

so anyhow i was messing around with speaker settings on my denon menu and discovered i have the energy take classic surround satellites at 80 crossover. i then immediately upped it to 120 since i cant do 115. (i think energys are rated at 115)

ive had them set at 80 for months. did this possibly damage the energys?
Edited by Luisfc1972 - 11/9/12 at 2:06pm
post #41939 of 51452
if they sound fine, they are fine wink.gif
post #41940 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Psyence View Post

batpig and cel4145 a thanks for the feedback

I've purchased everything but the subs in fact (at ridiculously low prices too). I'll look into what's out there for subs, if I can grab another s10.3 I think I'll be happy which would do fine. Budget is negotiable however I tend to look for decent quality at the right price point (in everything I shop for) which is another reason I fell in love with Energy. I'll see what space I'll have left over but on initial calculation I should be able to use the additional micros for the front highs.

I appreciate the feedback from you both, greatly appreciated!

OK good smile.gif Glad you didn't buy those subs yet!

For a dedicated theater I would advise you to get the best subwoofer you can afford. Again, with the vaulted ceilings that's a pretty good sized space. Check out internet direct dealers like HSU, SVS, Outlaw, etc.

For the receiver I would strongly advise that you get one with at least MultEQ XT, especially given the acoustical challenges of your space. It's available at good price points in the Denon/Marantz offerings. If you don't need network features or analog video conversion, the Denon 1712 model from last year is a superb value at under $300 refurb (from accessories4less w/ 1year warranty). I don't know where you live but I might troll around at local Best Buys seeing if they have any open box deals as well.

If you want a more fully featured unit with video conversion/scaling, network features, etc. I can highly recommend the Denon 2113ci model, it's an outstanding value and you can get it for under $500 from authorized dealers (call up Electronics Expo).

The good thing is that you won't need much power as the C-series are pretty sensitive.
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