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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

You can email that company requesting a bluray copy of the trailer and they will send it to you free.
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Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

+1
I emailed them about it and they sent it a few weeks later (it was oos). Absolutely incredible. I just wish it was longer.

Well what a hassle to get the (what, 100 MB? 200 MB?) file to me! We got this thing called the internet now which makes this rather pointless. And, living in Canada, not sure they'd send it here for free. At least if it was full of trailers and such; but you say it's only just the 30-sec trailer?
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

neutro:
I downloaded the file earlier today, clicked on it, and then my laptop burner happily made a DVD out of it. I then put it in my Blu-ray player. No viruses yet! Actually it was created by a forum member:

Okay then I might look at it. But the point was not really to test my surrounds -- I know they work smile.gif -- but to demo the system using a good trailer which people say it's amazing. By the way I think there's Dolby ProLogic matrix-encoded in the stereo soundtrack on Youtube but still not optimal...
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Originally Posted by gostillerz View Post

No kids, girlfriend has her own place, and I don't drink nearly enough to sumo wrestle the speakers. They're safe guys. biggrin.gif

As a security inspector at work, I'm currently cringing. You should probably try to find brackets to keep them in place at least laterally, so that they can't topple on a side. You could both hurt someone badly *and* break for thousands of dollars of stuff.

As an Energy thread reader, I'm currently grinning ear-to-ear. That *does* look awesome biggrin.gif
post #42092 of 51587
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

So Fry's will be selling the RC-70's for $350 each on Black Friday.

eek.gif

EDIT: just the 70s, no LCRs, no 10s?
post #42093 of 51587
All I read about was the RC-70's. No info on anything else.
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

All I read about was the RC-70's. No info on anything else.

Free shipping?
post #42095 of 51587
Fry's never does free shipping on speakers so don't count on it. they may not even be available online, could be in store only. wait another day and the Black Friday ad will be out so you'll know for sure.
post #42096 of 51587
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Well what a hassle to get the (what, 100 MB? 200 MB?) file to me! We got this thing called the internet now which makes this rather pointless. And, living in Canada, not sure they'd send it here for free. At least if it was full of trailers and such; but you say it's only just the 30-sec trailer?
Okay then I might look at it. But the point was not really to test my surrounds -- I know they work smile.gif -- but to demo the system using a good trailer which people say it's amazing. By the way I think there's Dolby ProLogic matrix-encoded in the stereo soundtrack on Youtube but still not optimal...
As a security inspector at work, I'm currently cringing. You should probably try to find brackets to keep them in place at least laterally, so that they can't topple on a side. You could both hurt someone badly *and* break for thousands of dollars of stuff.
As an Energy thread reader, I'm currently grinning ear-to-ear. That *does* look awesome biggrin.gif

They're surprisingly quite sturdy. I wouldn't keep them up there if they weren't.
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Originally Posted by gostillerz View Post


As you can see, I'm not exactly an expert on speaker placement, but it looks cool at least! I took the bases off and put some black felt in between them. The TV is a 65" DLP for size reference.
Afrogt, I just stacked them for the hell of it. I was using the 50's as surrounds and the 10's were boxed up, but I thought that was a waste of speaker so I tried this. I got a Marantz 5006 so it does wides, but I dont have the space for it. My room is shaped really weird. From my couch, the ceiling slopes down to the back where the height is only maybe 4 feet, so I have the 10's right behind the couch driver side up. I was thinking by getting bipole/dipoles, I can mount them on the side walls where they're supposed to be.

Sweet wall of sound
post #42098 of 51587
I posted this on the XX13 owners thread also.
So here's a litle tale of woe.
I purchased my 2313 on Oct 1 after EE graciously upgraded me due to being out of stock of the 2312.
Without ever having taken it out of the box (due to waiting for improvements to be made to my den and having the patience of a saint) I come home to find my room flooded and my new in the box receiver soaked.
Oh yeah, to make matters worse my new RC LCR and RC-10's also water logged as well.
I just put a claim in to Amex in order to check to see whether I might be eligible for coverage under their protection plan.
I am very fortunate compared to others who have lost much, much more but I felt it was time to share my little story.
Also, homeowners insurance is not helping and I had flood coverage but only for structure and not contents.
Learn from my mistake and if you're in harms way for any type of calamity then get your contents coverage..!!

So, does anyone think that the speakers might be salvageable after all, will I have come up with a new technology..?

Water dipped Energy....lol..!!!
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Originally Posted by gostillerz View Post


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Are the 70's AND 50's wired as your mains, or are the 50 heights or something?
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

Are the 70's AND 50's wired as your mains, or are the 50 heights or something?

He mentioned 70's as fronts, 50's as heights. Good golly what overkill for heights... love it.

I would find a way to secure the whole shebang, something that excessive has to be saved. I mean 50's as heights?!?! glad I lived to see this eek.gif.
post #42101 of 51587
too bad that setup couldn't be spread out more!! Add some stacked up subwoofers why don't you?? I will help you make them! smile.gif
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I bought a new receiver & front LCR speakers & after running MCACC I forgot to set the speakers as small & blew a woofer in one of my old surround speakers so I bought a pair of CR-10's (I think that's the model - I'm at work) for use as back surrounds. They're the triangular shaped ones with the bipole/dipole switch.
They're made for vertical mounting, but would it be better to mount them sideways so one tweeter points left & the other points right instead of up/down? If so, which direction should the woofer point? My room's pretty big, about 15x25'.
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Just ordered CB20's to bring my old, but adequate for my needs, Energy Encore system into 7.1 era. Good choice???
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Not sure how well the CB-20 matches with the Encore center but if it doesn't you can always add a CC-5 of CC-10 center later.
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To owners of the the CF-70 5.1 home theater bundle, what are your thoughts? Is it a worthy speaker set for the money?
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Hopefully, someone can give me some advice here.

I have a Marantz NR1602 receiver. It is a 7.1 low profile receiver and is rated at 50 watts per channel.

At present I am in the midst of setting up my system in my flat and for now, hooked up some older Energy speakers for 3.0 set up - eXL's L,R and C. (I said old).

The prices of the Veritas 6.2's seems quite a steal. Would these be a fair match to the low output Marantz? What about the V5.1 and V6.3?

Btw, I am surprised the eXL 16's and center still sound reasonably good considering their specs and how long they were in storage.

Please advise. If there are (sorry to ask here) other brand/options I should review or consider - please let me know

I listen to frequently to stereo music (CD and lossless files) along with cable TV and blu ray movies.

- Phrehdd

Marantz NR1602, Panasonic VT50 plasma, Oppo BRP 103 (just arrived!), PS3, Dune 3 Base and QNAP NAS storage
post #42107 of 51587
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Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

Hopefully, someone can give me some advice here.
I have a Marantz NR1602 receiver. It is a 7.1 low profile receiver and is rated at 50 watts per channel.
At present I am in the midst of setting up my system in my flat and for now, hooked up some older Energy speakers for 3.0 set up - eXL's L,R and C. (I said old).
The prices of the Veritas 6.2's seems quite a steal. Would these be a fair match to the low output Marantz? What about the V5.1 and V6.3?
Btw, I am surprised the eXL 16's and center still sound reasonably good considering their specs and how long they were in storage.

I've never heard the eXL's myself, but own a number of speakers from that general time period (some older, some newer) -- overall, I think you're likely not in a bad place at all...just because they're "older" speakers, doesn't necessarily mean they're inferior in any way.
That being said, jumping from the eXL's to the newer Veritas, I'm assuming, would be a pretty decent step up in quality. I haven't heard them either, but most owners seem fairly pleased with them (assuming you like the slightly-brighter tweeter).
I've done a lot of incremental upgrades over the last number of years, but you might reach a point (maybe where you're already at!) where "this is actually good enough!".

But, to actually try and help with your receiver question...! wink.gif
From my understanding, the more recent line of Energy speakers (newer RC's, Veritas, etc) are driven pretty easily compared to the older lines. You have a good quality receiver, but I can't say whether that is enough power for them or not -- even if driven pretty easily, those are quite large speakers.
I'd wait for some actual owners to chime in on the newer Veritas with specific recommendations...but don't necessarily count out your eXL's just because they're older...and if you do want to upgrade -- the used market is quite remarkable right now (craigslist is amazing!). smile.gif

Hope the above is in *some* way helpful!
post #42108 of 51587
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

So Fry's will be selling the RC-70's for $350 each on Black Friday.

Anyone able to find these today? Not showing up on their website, in store only?
post #42109 of 51587
Anyone in the St. Louis area need a pair of RC-30's!!! I don't have the boxes so I would rather not ship. PM me if interested.
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

I've never heard the eXL's myself, but own a number of speakers from that general time period (some older, some newer) -- overall, I think you're likely not in a bad place at all...just because they're "older" speakers, doesn't necessarily mean they're inferior in any way.
That being said, jumping from the eXL's to the newer Veritas, I'm assuming, would be a pretty decent step up in quality. I haven't heard them either, but most owners seem fairly pleased with them (assuming you like the slightly-brighter tweeter).
I've done a lot of incremental upgrades over the last number of years, but you might reach a point (maybe where you're already at!) where "this is actually good enough!".
But, to actually try and help with your receiver question...! wink.gif
From my understanding, the more recent line of Energy speakers (newer RC's, Veritas, etc) are driven pretty easily compared to the older lines. You have a good quality receiver, but I can't say whether that is enough power for them or not -- even if driven pretty easily, those are quite large speakers.
I'd wait for some actual owners to chime in on the newer Veritas with specific recommendations...but don't necessarily count out your eXL's just because they're older...and if you do want to upgrade -- the used market is quite remarkable right now (craigslist is amazing!). smile.gif
Hope the above is in *some* way helpful!

John I appreciate your input here. I was going to wait until next year to slowly build up a new set of speakers but the deals going on now prompted me to consider the Veritas line of speakers if they indeed would match well to my receiver. My goal was to start with 3.0, then 3.1, then move on to 5.1. The eXL speakers are very good for surround but only fair music. I have had these for over 10 years and at least 5 of those, they were tightly boxed in storage. The other items is I don't plan to play them at super loud levels as I have very good hearing and don't want to disturb my neighbors in the building. The last time I had a set up, it consisted of the Energy eXL with a Klipsch (sp) 10" sub. I kept the sub fairly low and just enough to get a sense of the lower frequencies. (I still have the sub just not connected yet.)

Hopefully, someone here can give me further input if the Veritas 6.2 would be good step up for FL and FR and the Veritas center speaker.

Thanks John and anyone else that could answer. The price for the 6.2 puts it in the range of many medium-low costing bookshelf speakers.
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Originally Posted by jmac2000 View Post

Anyone able to find these today? Not showing up on their website, in store only?

Just came back from my local very crowded Fry's. Barely found a spot in the huge parking lot. They had 14 boxes of RC-70's in one of the listening rooms. No price tags or anything.




I had to find a sales guy just get more info. He said the current price was $799. I asked if they were coming on sale anytime soon and all he could say was check back daily because he didn't know. He then proceeded to tell me how they were high end speakers and $799 was a good price.

Fry's will have a 8 page ad on Saturday. Hopefully they will be reduced to $350 then. someone on Slickdeals had posted they would be on sale for $350 after speaking to a Fry's sales rep in store but didn't give an exact date.
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Damn you American's! wink.gif
$350 would be insane... I think the lowest I've seen them in Canada was $400.

--edit; also, couldn't you buy them now and price match them when or if they do go on sale?
I've always been tempted to upgrade from my RC-50's, but can never pull the trigger. I can't justify the extra cost in my poor room set-up at this time. Plus, being in Canada, I have to rely on a a few Ameri-friends which thankfully has worked out pretty well in the past.
Edited by advil_yum - 11/23/12 at 3:06pm
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Yeah, Vanns had them for $399 but dont recall them being any cheaper than that. I'd have to pay sales tax and Fry's so it would cost me $761. Still a little cheaper than Vanns and don't have to worry about shipping damage.

Now I'm kicking myself for not buying the cherry pair that some guy in Sacramento was selling. My RC-10s and RC Mini's are cherry but my RC LCR is black. Also have a RC Mini center in cherry. I may end up having two RC systems though, black system in living room and cherry one in bedroom so maybe this works out for the best.

If the $350 sale really happens I'll probably jump on it. Then I gotta figure out what to do with my Jamo E680/E660 setup. Probably Craigslist.
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14 boxes ,That is 7 pair of speakers,Those will go bye, bye in minutes.biggrin.gif,I paid for mines $500 each, I think $350 each is a incredible deal. RC-70s Owners know that this speakers really worth the $1,099 each (MSRP) and can be easily sitting next to speakers at twice the MSRP and even more.


This review said it everything....
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/energy_rc70.htm
Edited by losservatore - 11/23/12 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

14 boxes ,That is 7 pair of speakers that will go bye, bye in minutes.biggrin.gif,I paid for mines $500 each, I think $350 each is a incredible deal.
Did you sell your 70's!!??
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

14 boxes ,That is 7 pair of speakers that will go bye, bye in minutes.biggrin.gif,I paid for mines $500 each, I think $350 each is a incredible deal.
Did you sell your 70's!!??


I have then on ebay for sale.A 29 weeks premature baby girl is coming home soon and the movie room will be her room,I don't have any space to keep then but I was undecided which one to keep, If the RC-70 or the VERITAS 6.3, It was a really hard decision.
Edited by losservatore - 11/23/12 at 4:42pm
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I think the RC-70's will sell quicker. Nobody knows much about the V6.3's.
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

I have then on ebay for sale.A 29 weeks premature baby girl is coming home soon and the movie room will be her room,I don't have any space to keep then but I was undecided which one to keep, If the RC-70 or the VERITAS 6.3, It was a really hard decision.
Good luck with the sale!! Congratulations on the birth of your daughter, smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

Hopefully, someone can give me some advice here.

I have a Marantz NR1602 receiver. It is a 7.1 low profile receiver and is rated at 50 watts per channel.

At present I am in the midst of setting up my system in my flat and for now, hooked up some older Energy speakers for 3.0 set up - eXL's L,R and C. (I said old).

The prices of the Veritas 6.2's seems quite a steal. Would these be a fair match to the low output Marantz? What about the V5.1 and V6.3?

Btw, I am surprised the eXL 16's and center still sound reasonably good considering their specs and how long they were in storage.

Please advise. If there are (sorry to ask here) other brand/options I should review or consider - please let me know

I listen to frequently to stereo music (CD and lossless files) along with cable TV and blu ray movies.

- Phrehdd

Marantz NR1602, Panasonic VT50 plasma, Oppo BRP 103 (just arrived!), PS3, Dune 3 Base and QNAP NAS storage

The Veritas speakers will be an absolutely monstrous leap forward from the e:XLs. First off, you would be going from a small bookshelf to a full sized tower (huge on its own considering you have no sub). But more importantly you are going from entry level speakers to Energy's current top of the line. The e:XLs are perfectly fine little speakers (in fact a pair of e:XL-15s are the first Energy speakers I owned, $20 off Craigslist) but, while the new Klipsch-designed Veritas aren't as good as the "true" Veritas of old, they are still just light years ahead of the XLs. The only thing to be concerned about wit the newer Veritas is that they have a pronounced treble that some find a bit harsh or "bright" for certain content.

The new Veritas are also reasonably sensitive and it sounds like you are in a relatively small space so I think you will be fine with the Marantz 1602.

In terms of other suggestions, it would help if you cold provide more general parameters.... Budget, listening preferences, room size, etc. However, if you are near a Fry's and can grab a pair of RC-70 for the $350 each sale price (assuming that's for real) then that is an unbeatable option.
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Thanks tang7969 smile.gif.
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