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post #42271 of 51596
Hey Batpig.. sorry to inform you i dont know anything about your website. sorry about that...
post #42272 of 51596
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

Hey Batpig.. sorry to inform you i dont know anything about your website. sorry about that...

here you go..... great informative website.

www.batpigworld.com
post #42273 of 51596
wow tons more reading Batpig... thanks for the link eh...


heres a question for you sorry for my ignorance...

it says for sub set up

8.If your sub has an 'Auto-on' setting on its power control, remember to turn this OFF before running MultEQ. If not, the sub might fail to 'wake up' when it is first pinged and this will throw off the calibration.

if i turn it off how is it going to work? or do they mean put it at the on position instead of auto on...?


for direct line input .. sub... where do you put the put the low pass filter at 40 or 120hz.. etc didnt mention..

i did the multq thing at these setting for the vs10 sub,, power on, volume 12oclock low pass 12 oclock .. but not much boom coming out of it when running... movie or music..

any tips?
post #42274 of 51596
yes, they mean turning it to "full on" so it is sure to be "awake", not literally turning the sub off.

if you are using the "direct" input then it doesn't matter where the LPF is set because the whole point is to bypass the filter, but regardless, as it clearly states in the setup guides you want the crossover/LPF on the sub bypassed or turned all the way up.

after running Audyssey make sure to reset speakers to "small" and make sure the crossovers are 60-80Hz or higher, otherwise not much is getting redirected to the sub (which could be while you are not hearing much boom). Also remember that "boom" isn't necessarily good, a lot of people are used to flabby, overexagerrated bass. Audyssey will flatten the bass, plus the Veritas sub is specifically a very 'clean" sub with low distortion, so it may not sound "boomy" like you think it should but it is actually more accurate.
post #42275 of 51596
Well my RC-70s are already gone (sold ),I still have 1 RC-LCR center, 2- RC-R and 2- RC-10.Any one interested just pm me.
post #42276 of 51596
My CB20's just arrived and I see that they have a 3/8" diameter-16 thread per inch threaded hole on the back. The owner's manual is practically useless as a guide of any sort. So, is there a good quality (read STRONG) wall mount that can be used to attach this thing to a wall?

Also, does Energy make any kind of floor stands to elevate these to ear height in smaller rooms??? If not, does anyone have any good websites they purchase these kinds of things from?

Thanks!
post #42277 of 51596
Speaker Stand for CB-10 and RC-LCR

Any recommended stand for energy CB-10 and RCLCR....thanks
post #42278 of 51596
Speakers stands are easy to find. Sanus, Pangea Audio, Wood Technology and others make stands in various heights that will fit your CB-20's. just check on Amazon.

Energy and Mirage used to make the Macromount bracket for their bookshelf speakers but they're near impossible to find now. Omnimount also makes a bracket than can hold 20lbs and uses a 3/8" 16 thread screw.
http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-Stainless-Steel-Speaker-Mount/dp/B00013BNLQ/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_0

You can also get the Pinpoint and VideoSecu wall mounts that clamp on the side of the speakers.

http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Clamping-Mounting-Surrounding-3LH/dp/B000X9O8SI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354159557&sr=1-2&keywords=pinpoint+am40
http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-AM-40B-Clamping-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002UV03MW/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
post #42279 of 51596
thanks Batpig will go try these things out.. these new tech toys so much learning .. i dont even have a cell phone..

i think the audyssey made all my speakers large ... so i have to make em small... its so confusing... so i can set the cut off at 60 or 80 hz..

perhaps this is why the sub is not doing much.. thanks for helping my understanding ..

now just have to figure out the remote to get to these places quick eh..

practice ..

the 6.3s have nice base to me all by themselves.. not super punch but good punch..


definetly need listening / theater room in my basement .. which i will start chipping away at soon... just had my basement spray foamed nice and warm and dry..

floor walls ceiling power raised stage etc will make some good acoustic treatments designs.... the 6.3s are way to boomy in my living room to crank..

thanks Bat..
post #42280 of 51596
just one more question not sure where to find answer..

ok i take off lfe and main..

set to small

adjust to 80


then run audyssey again will it set the speakers back to large?

thanks
post #42281 of 51596
My denon does the same thing, always set my veritas as large not matter how I do the calibration.I have to set then manually as small.
post #42282 of 51596
well i think i got the set up basics for the sound down .. after Batpigs tips and links.. much more helpful than the 200 page manual.. thanks Bat..

yup got some good sound happening out of the sub late last night.. biggrin.gif really good sound biggrin.gif im happy camper biggrin.gif

yeah re ran the audyssey and then set speakers to small..

sub is working much better now...

played the opening scene of top gun for a test of the base and some eric clapton... most excellent..

thanks

ps i guess if you run audyssey with some port plugs and and take em out it would throw off the calculations?
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instead or writing "deleted", there is actually a button to delete your post wink.gif

it's the red "X" right next to the "edit" button you pressed to write "deleted" tongue.gif
post #42285 of 51596
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

just one more question not sure where to find answer..

ok i take off lfe and main..

set to small

adjust to 80


then run audyssey again will it set the speakers back to large?

thanks

just FYI, but this IS discussed in my FAQ wink.gif

Audyssey ignores all settings when you run it and wipes the slate clean, so you can't make the changes and the re-run Audyssey, because it will just reset the speakers back to "large". (or, actually, more accurately, the RECEIVER will reset the speakers to large based on the data provided by Audyssey. If Audyssey was in charge of this speakers would NEVER be set to "large" if you had a subwoofer.)

So AFTER you run Audyssey is when you then make some manual tweaks to the bass management, because the bass management is out of control of Audyssey and the receiver sets speakers to "large" so as not to offend buyers who have tower speakers. The important thing to remember is that the "small/large" setting is a misnomer, it's really just a "bass management ON/OFF" setting.
post #42286 of 51596



Here are some pictures of my new 7.2 Energy Veritas setup - Very happy with it
post #42287 of 51596
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Here are some pictures of my new 7.2 Energy Veritas setup - Very happy with it

Nice set up
post #42288 of 51596
Was wondering what you guys think of using front wides instead of front heights? Is there a real benefit to heights over front wides if placement of speakers is no issue?
This is the gear I have to use for my HT set up downstairs.

Pioneer Elite pro-111 display
Pioneer VSX-33
Oppo-83
RC-70 fronts
RCLCR
RC-R for heights or front wides
RC-10 for side surrounds
VSW-10 x2
Also have an extra pair of RC-r's and could if needed for a better sound stage an extra pair of RC-70's
I have been using the extra set of RC-70's for 2 channel music, but also have an extra set of V6.2's I
could use for 2 channel music instead of the RC-70's I should say originally I was using the RC-70's for
side surrounds as well as fronts but replaced the sides with the RC-10's which I was fine with. Sort of
thinking out loud here would you guys use the RC-R's for front wides over the RC-70's for front wides?
Edited by baron2 - 11/29/12 at 11:27am
post #42289 of 51596
Well, first off you should move the RC-R to side surrounds and use the RC-10's for heights/wides. RC-R are much better suited for primary surround duty because of their bipole/dipole dispersion pattern.

Or better yet, if you try wides, go with the extra pair of RC70's because that would be bad ass. biggrin.gif

The height vs. wide thing really depends on the room, the processor, and your preferences. Since you have all the gear you just need to try it yourself and see what YOU like best. If you had a receiver with Audyssey DSX I would definitely say to go for wides first, but Pioneer uses their own proprietary wide/height processing so you really need to try it and see what you like.

If you really want to get crazy, since you have all those speakers, my recommendation would be to sell the Pioneer and find a Denon 4311ci (available for a bit over $1k these days) and go whole hog with a full 11ch setup. RC-70's as front L/R and wide L/R, the two pairs of RC-R's as surrounds and surround backs, and the two RC-10's as heights biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
post #42290 of 51596
I was able to get a set of Energy Veritas 6.2's brand new since I had no luck with obtaining the RC70 or RC50's on the east coast new.

Question that I have is, I already had picked up 2 sets of brand new RC10's and a brand new RC-LCR. Am I going to have an issue with mixing a set of 6.2 Veritas with the remaining RC speakers?
I'm concerned that I made a mistake here mixing styles. Majority of my use is for movies, TV and gaming and Music is last.

Thanks
post #42291 of 51596
consensus is that RC and V are not a "perfect match" but close enough that you can get away with it. Since you already have the speakers, might as well try them out and see how it goes... if you have a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ (especially XT or better) it will help a lot to smooth out any minor tonal differences.

you always have the option of selling the RC's and picking up the V center and surrounds, although obviously there will be some incremental cost penalty. But I would go ahead and try it out in the meantime and see (hear) how it goes.
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Here are some pictures of my new 7.2 Energy Veritas setup - Very happy with it


very nice setup, but the stands doesn't look safe ,if those fall on the hard floor redface.gif.
post #42293 of 51596
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

consensus is that RC and V are not a "perfect match" but close enough that you can get away with it. Since you already have the speakers, might as well try them out and see how it goes... if you have a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ (especially XT or better) it will help a lot to smooth out any minor tonal differences.
you always have the option of selling the RC's and picking up the V center and surrounds, although obviously there will be some incremental cost penalty. But I would go ahead and try it out in the meantime and see (hear) how it goes.

Thanks appreciate it batpig
post #42294 of 51596
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

very nice setup, but the stands doesn't look safe ,if those fall on the hard floor redface.gif.

We already have the stands for a while used them with different speakers, they are safe in our house because we do not have small kids anymore so no problem smile.gif The speakers are at the perfect ear height.
post #42295 of 51596
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Originally Posted by South Park View Post

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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

very nice setup, but the stands doesn't look safe ,if those fall on the hard floor redface.gif.

We already have the stands for a while used them with different speakers, they are safe in our house because we do not have small kids anymore so no problem smile.gif The speakers are at the perfect ear height.


nice to see this setup, I was asking for pictures of 3 front v5.2 setup like this.enjoy them...smile.gif
Edited by losservatore - 11/29/12 at 11:48am
post #42296 of 51596
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Here are some pictures of my new 7.2 Energy Veritas setup - Very happy with it

VERY nice... What does the '.2' look like?
post #42297 of 51596
I see a HSU Research VTF-15H on the first picture, that will be my next purchase but in rosenut to match my rosenut veritas set up.
post #42298 of 51596
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you really want to get crazy, since you have all those speakers, my recommendation would be to sell the Pioneer and find a Denon 4311ci (available for a bit over $1k these days) and go whole hog with a full 11ch setup. RC-70's as front L/R and wide L/R, the two pairs of RC-R's as surrounds and surround backs, and the two RC-10's as heights biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

I just stood up, hit my head against the wall several times, sat back down and looked at this again. Are you kidding me!? That would be AWESOME!!! I'm not sure whether the bat or the pig came up with that, you are to be congratulated smile.gif

Thinking about this and the guy who stacked RC50's as heights on top of RC70's is like Christmas come early.
post #42299 of 51596
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

VERY nice... What does the '.2' look like?

Yes, losservatore is correct, the .2 is one HSU VTF-15H and the second sub is a Energy sub ESW-C10. I can tell you the VTF-15H is rocking the room with the right movie. Here is a recommendation to show off the sound: "6 String Theory" Audio CD and multi-channel DVD by Lee Ritenour, this is just awesome. The Energy sub goes deep but with the VTF-15H you actually feel the punches quite hard. This one time we had guests in our house feeling uncomfortable with those punches, almost afraid... cool.gif
post #42300 of 51596
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Well, first off you should move the RC-R to side surrounds and use the RC-10's for heights/wides. RC-R are much better suited for primary surround duty because of their bipole/dipole dispersion pattern.
Or better yet, if you try wides, go with the extra pair of RC70's because that would be bad ass. biggrin.gif
The height vs. wide thing really depends on the room, the processor, and your preferences. Since you have all the gear you just need to try it yourself and see what YOU like best. If you had a receiver with Audyssey DSX I would definitely say to go for wides first, but Pioneer uses their own proprietary wide/height processing so you really need to try it and see what you like.
If you really want to get crazy, since you have all those speakers, my recommendation would be to sell the Pioneer and find a Denon 4311ci (available for a bit over $1k these days) and go whole hog with a full 11ch setup. RC-70's as front L/R and wide L/R, the two pairs of RC-R's as surrounds and surround backs, and the two RC-10's as heights biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Thanks batpig for the information, I think Im going to go with the wides over front heights since with this reciever I cant to both, will look into that Denon you mentioned.
I just wasnt satisfied with the front heights tried the rc-10 and the rc-r, they played nice but didnt really hear them that well. Maybe it was since I have the rc-70 for fronts they were drowning out the heights so wide front would probally be better, more at an ear level anyway. One thing I did notice and maybe its me not having things hooked up correctly. Television watching sound comes out of the heights as well as everything else. Once a blueray is introduced I dont get any sound out of the heights. A lot of these bluerays have locked audio tracks from what I can gather since I am not able to change the sound track using my reciever.
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