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post #42391 of 51479
Is Klipsch dissolving the Energy brand or Energy introducing a new speaker line and thats why stores are trying to move them out?
post #42392 of 51479
My v6.3 ordered from wwstereo just came in yesterday. Not double-boxed. Some "dents" on the Energy carton box and there's a "cut" right in the middle but overall the packaging held up well enough. Everything inside looks good.

It was late last night by the time I set the two towers up, so the volume was set to pretty low. I didn't redo Audessey calibration, but I hear pretty bad high tone (I guessed it's the high since the tweeters sound "cracking") when listening to music. Movie was fine although vocal was very weak while the sound effect was very loud. BTW I was playing the media on PS3. Is it normal before break-in? Or redo Audessey will fix it?
post #42393 of 51479
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Originally Posted by mond817 View Post

My v6.3 ordered from wwstereo just came in yesterday. Not double-boxed. Some "dents" on the Energy carton box and there's a "cut" right in the middle but overall the packaging held up well enough. Everything inside looks good.

It was late last night by the time I set the two towers up, so the volume was set to pretty low. I didn't redo Audessey calibration, but I hear pretty bad high tone (I guessed it's the high since the tweeters sound "cracking") when listening to music. Movie was fine although vocal was very weak while the sound effect was very loud. BTW I was playing the media on PS3. Is it normal before break-in? Or redo Audessey will fix it?


welcome and enjoy your new setup ,did you check all the connections?probably it can be a bad tweeter,You can do a tweeter test but be careful not to blow the tweeters with the test.Because the high speaker terminal is combine with the mid range speaker and tweeter the test will only play on the high frequencies that way you will be able to only listen for any anomalies on the tweeters.
post #42394 of 51479
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Originally Posted by Agent 504 View Post

Is Klipsch dissolving the Energy brand or Energy introducing a new speaker line and thats why stores are trying to move them out?

Really it's Audiovox now, not Klipsch.... But no one really knows. Energy claims on their Facebook page that they have "exciting new products" coming out but so far under Audiovox all we've gotten is some computer speakers, sound bars, and "power" subwoofers with crappy specs.
post #42395 of 51479
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Really it's Audiovox now, not Klipsch.... But no one really knows. Energy claims on their Facebook page that they have "exciting new products" coming out but so far under Audiovox all we've gotten is some computer speakers, sound bars, and "power" subwoofers with crappy specs.

I'm new to the brand, but it's a shame what's happening to Energy. There's enough companies making entry level speakers. I'm waiting for them to make an Xbox headset next frown.gif
post #42396 of 51479
Been reading various AVS forum posts for a while and finally subscribed. Got a question regarding a pair of older Pro 22s (bought new in 1983 - I think). After I blew a woofer, I set them aside and haven't used them in a few years. Finally dug them out and got a woofer to install. Hooked 'em up and nothing out of either tweeter. Not even static. Any ideas? Worth fixing? Really loved their sound, but want to be realistic w/$$$$ regarding fixing them - they are 30 years old. Haven't contacted Energy yet about tweeter availability, think they are? These are the Pro 22, not the Connoisseur 22.

BTW, just bought the Energy 5.1 Take Classic system. Any comments/suggestions on hooking it up? Will be doing all ceiling mounts and looking for mount suggestions. Got a few mounts in mind, but haven't bought any yet. Also very open to speaker placement suggestions.

Any help/advice/comments/suggestions on either of above appreciated.
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post #42398 of 51479
^^^ @4thChoice -- the Pro 22's tweeter is notorious for eventually burning out. You should verify first that they aren't merely disconnected or something, but that old tweeter design will eventually fail.

Energy no longer stocks parts for these speakers, given their age. There is a guy in Halifax (Canada) who bought up the remaining parts stock and will do tweeter rebuilds, however, if BOTH of them are burnt out then it's likely cost prohibitive ($300+).
post #42399 of 51479
Dang I'm obsessed with older Energy Speakers. Just picked up a pair of e:xl16's for $40. Last month picked up a pair of e:xl15's for $30. My current setup's are a little outdated...but they still sound great.

HT:
Connoisseur C5
Connoisseur C-C1
Connoisseur C-R1

Loft (daughters playroom):
Take FPS X3
Take LCR x2

Garage
e:XL-16
e:XL-15
post #42400 of 51479
love it smile.gif those older Energy's are awesome values. It's hard to keep perspective given the crazy blow-out pricing we've seen the past couple of years on RC's and now the new Veritas, but if you are diligent you can build an awesome setup for not a lot of cash by pursuing older stuff.

Those original C-series "Connoisseurs" are especially awesome values. You need to keep your eye out for a C-C3 to upgrade the C-C1 center, that will be a nice step up.
post #42401 of 51479
Hi all, I just picked up an RC-LCR (thanks losservatore!) to complete my 5.1 set up. I'll be using my RC-10s for my surrounds. My placement options are slightly limited: Basically, I can either put them a couple of inches behind the couch on both ends (on 36" stands - the back of the couch is roughly 32" high) or on the sides but at about a 70 degree angle (not the suggested 90-110 degrees that Dolby recommends). I feel that placing them at 70 degree angle kind of defeats the purpose since they will technically be in front but I'm not sure how great they would be behind the couch either (I also don't know if Audyssey will help mitigate any issues with either placement). Any suggestions are appreciated - I've attached two photos of the space to give an idea. Thanks for any help!


post #42402 of 51479
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Originally Posted by gpron View Post

Hi all, I just picked up an RC-LCR (thanks losservatore!) to complete my 5.1 set up. I'll be using my RC-10s for my surrounds. My placement options are slightly limited: Basically, I can either put them a couple of inches behind the couch on both ends (on 36" stands - the back of the couch is roughly 32" high) or on the sides but at about a 70 degree angle (not the suggested 90-110 degrees that Dolby recommends). I feel that placing them at 70 degree angle kind of defeats the purpose since they will technically be in front but I'm not sure how great they would be behind the couch either (I also don't know if Audyssey will help mitigate any issues with either placement). Any suggestions are appreciated - I've attached two photos of the space to give an idea. Thanks for any help!


Nice set up you got there
post #42403 of 51479
that's going to be tough with such an open floor plan. If you place them right on the sides of the couch you are going to have issues with the fact that the direct-firing speakers are so close to the listeners.... will probably be OK in the middle seat but somebody sitting on either end will get overwhelmed by the closer surround. Audyssey will help balance the levels but it can't make the speaker diffuse.

my suggestion is to ceiling-mount the RC-10's to either side of the couch, a few feet out, maybe a foot or two behind, and angled down towards the couch. This will provide some physical separation and also keep the floor space clear. Frankly, in a room that good looking, I wouldn't WANT to have two RC-10's sitting on stands out in the open.

or, if you are cutting holes in the ceiling anyway, you could sell the RC-10's and just install two of these: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WxmXPd0Am0G/p_732RC6CST/Energy-RC-6Cst.html
post #42404 of 51479
Thanks for your help hernanu, I will head over the subwoofer section and see what is recommended. I guess nothing particular I should look for to pair with these (budget for probably $500 and under for the subwoofer).
post #42405 of 51479
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Originally Posted by gpron View Post

Hi all, I just picked up an RC-LCR (thanks losservatore!) to complete my 5.1 set up. I'll be using my RC-10s for my surrounds. My placement options are slightly limited: Basically, I can either put them a couple of inches behind the couch on both ends (on 36" stands - the back of the couch is roughly 32" high) or on the sides but at about a 70 degree angle (not the suggested 90-110 degrees that Dolby recommends). I feel that placing them at 70 degree angle kind of defeats the purpose since they will technically be in front but I'm not sure how great they would be behind the couch either (I also don't know if Audyssey will help mitigate any issues with either placement). Any suggestions are appreciated - I've attached two photos of the space to give an idea. Thanks for any help!


Since you do have room restrictions how about using the rc-10's as front wides? I have experimented with front wides and left and right with center channel and actually like them.

All your speakers are front firing so you would get a direct sound hit.
post #42406 of 51479
you still need surrounds though, you can't run any "extra" speakers until you have the "core" 5.1 setup complete.
post #42407 of 51479
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Originally Posted by pghflyer View Post

Thanks for your help hernanu, I will head over the subwoofer section and see what is recommended. I guess nothing particular I should look for to pair with these (budget for probably $500 and under for the subwoofer).

well, there is SOMETHING in particular in that, with the Mini's, you want a sub that will be flat above 100Hz so you can blend them properly with those small speakers (that really need about a 120Hz crossover). At the $500 price point, if you want something compact I'd look hard at the new SVS sealed powerhouse SB-1000: http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box/sb-1000#.UMEvioM8B8E
post #42408 of 51479
Thanks for pointing that out, I didnt think about that
post #42409 of 51479
If I have the surrounds a few inches behind the couch about 1 foot above ear level pointed towards the front wall and slightly toed in (or not?), are they still too close to the listening position?
post #42410 of 51479
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Originally Posted by gpron View Post

If I have the surrounds a few inches behind the couch about 1 foot above ear level pointed towards the front wall and slightly toed in (or not?), are they still too close to the listening position?


I highly recommend the mirage omnipolar speakers for your living room, I'm not sure if they are discontinued like many energy products, mirage is from the same company that owns energy but you can always found then on ebay.


post #42411 of 51479
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

love it smile.gif those older Energy's are awesome values. It's hard to keep perspective given the crazy blow-out pricing we've seen the past couple of years on RC's and now the new Veritas, but if you are diligent you can build an awesome setup for not a lot of cash by pursuing older stuff.
Those original C-series "Connoisseurs" are especially awesome values. You need to keep your eye out for a C-C3 to upgrade the C-C1 center, that will be a nice step up.

I would love to find a C-C3. I've been looking for a while, but there isn't any out there. I bought the Connoisseurs setup brand new many years ago. I just love the sound, and I never get tired of hearing it. The C-C1 is a little weak as the C5's tend to over power it. Which is why I have been looking for the C-C3. If I find one, the C-C1 will go into the garage system.
post #42412 of 51479
Energy Take Classic 5pc Speaker System $119.99 at Woot! They started at $149.99 tonight but actually dropped the price when someone pointed out that it wasn't that great a deal. Gotta love woot! They got me started with my Energy collection. I still have my 4x C-100's and C-C50, C-C100 centers in boxes. Sounded great until I compared them to the RC series.
post #42413 of 51479
Anybody selling Energy Point 1e speakers from 1993?

Regards
post #42414 of 51479
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

....you want a sub that will be flat above 100Hz so you can blend them properly......

Thanks much batpig. I have added the SB-1000 to my watch list. Is there a spec I should look for to see that if I wanted to look around?
post #42415 of 51479
I have a slight variation on the 'should I get the V-Mini' question. I just upgraded my fronts to Veritas 6.2 and V-Mini-C (no room for the 5.2) from the Take 5. The Takes are now the surround speakers in a 7.1 setup but I am wondering if the minis are worth the upgrade. My variation is that I have the original Canadian made Take system from the late 90's. Is what I have that much better or is it still worth it to upgrade? My room is pretty big, about 400 square feet with 13' ceilings and the surrounds are all about 6' from the couch.

While my wife is OK with what we have now since they are pretty small (which is why I would only replace them with the V-Mini), she would prefer in-wall surrounds if possible. If I decided to go that route, what would work best with the Veritas or is that not advisable?

Thanks
post #42416 of 51479
IMO this really depends on how loud you listen -- the better build, slightly larger size and bigger woofers of the Mini's will be able to handle high volume more easily than the little Takes.

But if you'd prefer to go in-wall, snatch up these RC in-walls before they are gone: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-THzA0DRe9Yw/p_732RC6CST/Energy-RC-6Cst.html

They would be even better than the Mini's.
post #42417 of 51479
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

But if you'd prefer to go in-wall, snatch up these RC in-walls before they are gone: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-THzA0DRe9Yw/p_732RC6CST/Energy-RC-6Cst.html

Batpig, I had an eye on those a few months ago. They're quite a hassle to get since I'd have to use the Kinek trick to import them in Canada. What I had in mind was using some (a pair, probably) for the dining area, and another pair as surround backs in the living room. Now at $120 they're quite cheap but Crutchfield also has the RC-6C at $80, which is, well, even cheaper.

In the dining area I was tempted to use the dual tweeters as "stereo" speakers to play both channels at each speaker location. In the living room, I know that dipole speakers are recommended for surrounds; what do you think about having RC-10s for surrounds (side) but RC-6Cst in dipole mode as surround backs? Is this a waste of money vs just using the RC-6C (which have aimable tweeters)? No, I can't put anything behind my couch nor mount the RC-10s as surround backs, that's why I was looking at ceiling speakers in the first place.
post #42418 of 51479
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Originally Posted by guyincognitoo View Post

I have a slight variation on the 'should I get the V-Mini' question. I just upgraded my fronts to Veritas 6.2 and V-Mini-C (no room for the 5.2) from the Take 5. The Takes are now the surround speakers in a 7.1 setup but I am wondering if the minis are worth the upgrade. My variation is that I have the original Canadian made Take system from the late 90's. Is what I have that much better or is it still worth it to upgrade? My room is pretty big, about 400 square feet with 13' ceilings and the surrounds are all about 6' from the couch.
While my wife is OK with what we have now since they are pretty small (which is why I would only replace them with the V-Mini), she would prefer in-wall surrounds if possible. If I decided to go that route, what would work best with the Veritas or is that not advisable?
Thanks

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

IMO this really depends on how loud you listen -- the better build, slightly larger size and bigger woofers of the Mini's will be able to handle high volume more easily than the little Takes.
But if you'd prefer to go in-wall, snatch up these RC in-walls before they are gone: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-THzA0DRe9Yw/p_732RC6CST/Energy-RC-6Cst.html
They would be even better than the Mini's.

Batpig is right....those are better speakers for surrounds. But make sure your walls are thick enough. Most walls are just 1/2" plywood with 3.5" thick 2x4's. Those speakers require a 5" mounting depth so a typical wall wont work. However, tthey would work in the ceiling just fine!
post #42419 of 51479
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

In the living room, I know that dipole speakers are recommended for surrounds; what do you think about having RC-10s for surrounds (side) but RC-6Cst in dipole mode as surround backs? Is this a waste of money vs just using the RC-6C (which have aimable tweeters)? No, I can't put anything behind my couch nor mount the RC-10s as surround backs, that's why I was looking at ceiling speakers in the first place.

IMO if you are going to use them only for back surrounds, save your money and get the standard 6C version. The benefit of the dipole/bipole speaker is less important for surr. back speakers and you also have direct radiators for side surrounds. The 6C has the exact same driver complement as the RC-10 so they should go great together.
post #42420 of 51479
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

IMO if you are going to use them only for back surrounds, save your money and get the standard 6C version. The benefit of the dipole/bipole speaker is less important for surr. back speakers and you also have direct radiators for side surrounds. The 6C has the exact same driver complement as the RC-10 so they should go great together.

Plus, they're not quoted as "low on stock" smile.gif Thanks for the information. Did you ever heard the Cst version before? Any opinion on their use for casual listening in a space where the listeners can move around and basically be anywhere?

Anyway I put the project on hold because installing them under an insulated attic, while not impossible, is a bit more involved than just cutting a circle in drywall. Running wires and getting them down in walls where there are horizontal cross-braces is also not my idea of fun biggrin.gif
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