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post #42481 of 47705
12/11/12 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

also, just to get you started:
- the crossovers were set low because that's what Audyssey measured their low end response to be. The receiver just takes the measurements and sets the crossover as low as possible. The recommendation is to raise these crossovers to 80Hz afterwards so you are sure the subwoofer is getting the low end bass.
- the sub is set to -4dB because (just like all the other speakers) that's the digital level required to get it to play at the same volume as all the other speakers.
- the LFE LPF should actually be 120Hz
- (since this last one is not an Audyssey question, a little more detail)... the "gain" on the V-S surrounds controls the volume level of the side-firing midrange drivers. It basically controls how strong the bipole/dipole effect is... the lower the gain, the more the speaker will be like a direct-radiating speaker.... the higher the gain, the more the speaker will have a wide dispersion and be more "spacious" sounding. Basically, you want to set this to taste to give the desired amount of surround immersion.

Thanks a lot.

Futhermore on the VS Surround with RC10 Rears, should i set it to Dipole or BiPole?
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post #42482 of 47705
12/11/12 at 12:32pm
Somebody needs to submit a pic of some RC-10's on stands next to some RC-50's to help this guy out! He will prolly end up paying over $300 with stands and that hole he sees under the speaker is the same hole he will hear in the sound. Would be a shame.
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post #42483 of 47705
12/11/12 at 1:38pm
Sorry if this has been posted, but RC Micro's are $119.99 shipped from tiger direct, FWIW:

159.99 at Tiger Direct

Use coupon code EIZ79417 to get $40 off ( Exp : 12/21/12 )
Final Price : $119.99 Shipped
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post #42484 of 47705
12/11/12 at 1:39pm
I would be all over those RC-50's if I didn't already pick up the 6.2 Veritas.... just praying they fit in with the RC-10's and RC-LCR. Can't test the stuff until the condo is ready. grr.
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post #42485 of 47705
12/11/12 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

^^ This!!! It better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission! biggrin.gif
Man......it's so easy to tell others these things when you're not the one who will end up in the doghouse! biggrin.giftongue.gif

In your case: the doghouse is in the basement (man-cave) with your toys. GO for it!!!
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post #42486 of 47705
12/11/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

sounds like someone needs to go to Audyssey 101 school: http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750#post_21782993

You took the words right out of my mouth...
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post #42487 of 47705
12/11/12 at 5:15pm
Pair of RC-R's on Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Reference-Connoisseur-Bi-pole-Di-pole-Surround-Speakers-1-pair-/300829622940?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item460ad7c29c
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post #42488 of 47705
12/12/12 at 2:03am
Also an S10.3 sub for $199.95 plus $14.95 shipping. Might be worth it to grab it at the Buy It Now price of $229.95. I sure like mine!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Speakers-S10-3-Powered-10-Subwoofer-/271119786529?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3f1fffa221


EDIT: Somebody grabbed it. Hope it was one of you.
Edited by Fears4Ears - 12/12/12 at 3:03am
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post #42489 of 47705
12/12/12 at 5:20am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

seriously, you already agreed to throw the setup in the basement! That means she loses aesthetic approval control wink.gif tell her how you were willing to compromise by moving your setup so she can decorate the living room however she wants, so in return you should be able to get the speakers you want!!
that auction has only 4.5 hours left and still 0 bids. Just do it! As noted above, there is no difference between bookshelves on stands vs. the towers in terms of how much space they take, and IMO a tower speaker is better looking anyway.
also, as someone else mentioned, it's a myth that towers take more power than bookshelf speakers. It's actually the opposite within the same line -- the tower has a larger cabinet and more drivers and is thus more efficient at converting the electrical signal into physical sound energy. The RC-50's actually need LESS power than the RC-10's, and your 1713 will have no problem cranking them LOUD biggrin.gif


Well,

Even though it could be a long time before I could actually use these speakers, and listening to my wife complain about getting these speakers I don't need them blah,blah I figured this could be one of the last time I see them at this price. So, Iwon the bid and will be sending payment tonight through pay pal! It sounds like there in good shape so I hope it all works out !

FYI- If anybody in this thread is interested I am selling my darbee darblet (if you don;t know what it is you can search this forum for info) to help pay for these bad boys. I figure before I put it in the classifed secton on the forum I'd give everyone on this thread first chance since you helped me out in this decison on the rc 50's. I bought it new in september for 320, and Looking to sell it for 250 or best offer. If anyone is interested send me a PM its actually a great device I only bought it because I was curious and then just kept it because it worked and I hate sending ithings back lol . It's just I would rather have the speakers lol

Ciao
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post #42490 of 47705
12/12/12 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by glantern30 View Post

Well,
Even though it could be a long time before I could actually use these speakers, and listening to my wife complain about getting these speakers I don't need them blah,blah I figured this could be one of the last time I see them at this price. So, Iwon the bid and will be sending payment tonight through pay pal! It sounds like there in good shape so I hope it all works out !

Good for you man!!!! Congrats!

If you go up a few posts, mantrika is the one selling the speakers you bought. You could probably PM him to confirm the condition of the speakers.
Edited by kgallerie - 12/12/12 at 6:38am
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post #42491 of 47705
12/12/12 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by glantern30 View Post

Well,
Even though it could be a long time before I could actually use these speakers, and listening to my wife complain about getting these speakers I don't need them blah,blah I figured this could be one of the last time I see them at this price. So, Iwon the bid and will be sending payment tonight through pay pal! It sounds like there in good shape so I hope it all works out !
Ciao

No need to worry about the condition of the speakers. They are in excellent condition. They are packed up in the original boxes with all the accessories and ready to be shipped. Just PM me for anything you want to know about them. I am always here on this forum. I do have a full RC setup myself with RC-70s, RC-LCR, RC-Rs and HSU VTF-15H. You will not regret this buy.
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post #42492 of 47705
12/12/12 at 7:10am
Awesome! I saw that a bid was put in and was hoping it was you! You will not be disappointed, and honestly that's a great price for those speakers.
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post #42493 of 47705
12/12/12 at 7:28am
Has anyone here been able to compare the Energy RC or Veritas line speakers to the Definitive Technology BP series speakers? I am to the point where I just want to buy the Def Tech speakers because its been a pain trying to hunt down and put together my Energy HT.
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post #42494 of 47705
12/12/12 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by Agent 504 View Post

I am to the point where I just want to buy the Def Tech speakers because its been a pain trying to hunt down and put together my Energy HT.

This.

I really can't understand what the hell is going on with this brand when fans and potential customers have to literally *hunt down* the parts required to make a HT setup. I wish Energy would just shut down lines that they don't want to sell anymore or find a way to start up production and distribution again if they still want them in the market. The current situation is absurd and it's been going on for years now.
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post #42495 of 47705
12/12/12 at 8:18am
Nice to see the Energy owners thread. I have a pair of RC-70s in rosenut I bought back in 2006. I've been contemplating upgrading my speakers to something better, but at the same time I feel it would be hard to part with them. Given all the disarray in Energy at the moment, I feel it may be best to hang on to them since it was John Tchilinguarian's last design with the company, IIRC. I'm not sure if he did the RC-SUBs as well. Speaking of those RC-SUBs, did anyone get to hear them or possibly own one? I think they came out at some point in 2007. I saw one listed in Rosenut on the website, it looked beautiful. But after spring 2008 I don't recall seeing anything about them anymore.
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post #42496 of 47705
12/12/12 at 9:21am
The RC-SUBs were never actually released for public sale AFAIK. Back in the day (many years ago now!!) there was a rumor that the amps were defective and would cause the sub to *literally* catch fire when overdriven. The design was scrapped and Energy soon came out with the ESW-V series instead.

Getting a "real" upgrade from the RC-70's will require quite a bit of coin, they are pretty much competitive with anything in the $3k/pair and under bracket. I would imagine you'd have to look for a pair of towers in the $5k/pair msrp range at the minimum to get a clear upgrade.
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post #42497 of 47705
12/12/12 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Awesome! I saw that a bid was put in and was hoping it was you! You will not be disappointed, and honestly that's a great price for those speakers.

yeah I wasn't ready for them (room wise and finacially lol) it will be a year before I can completly have a space and use them. but by then I may never find them again especially at that price. Thanks for the... let say "push " to make a good decision. once I get them and try them out I'll let you guys know how they are for the hour I get to use them lmao wink.gif


ciao
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post #42498 of 47705
12/12/12 at 11:05am
Went to my local Fry's yesterday. They still have the same 14 RC-70s in boxes in the middle of the sound room floor. At least there is a price tag now which is currently $599 ea. Will they ever come on sale, who knows? But they're not moving at all right now.

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post #42499 of 47705
12/12/12 at 11:07am
do they even have them set up in the listening room? It seems like it's pretty hard to sell a relatively premium product without demoing it!

in my San Diego location they at least had a pair set up in the "fancy room" with the other more expensive speakers from Klipsch and Polk. The sales guy basically hinted that they were getting these speakers cheap enough that they could "name their price point" and still make a profit, so there may be room to negotiate if you are ready to buy.
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post #42500 of 47705
12/12/12 at 11:20am
Did any of you guys asked if they (Fry's) plan on getting other RC speakers? I understand that people do buy 2.0 setups but if anybody wants to upgrade to a 5.0 setup, the absence of matching speakers is a serious obstacle. I bet the question is: are they getting the 70s from a new production run or is this only leftovers from Vann's?
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post #42501 of 47705
12/12/12 at 11:23am
Yes I think they will stay there, consumers look for common store brands like klipsch,polk,boston acoustic ect...
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post #42502 of 47705
12/12/12 at 12:09pm
I have no idea where they got them, but the guy I talked to at Fry's indicated they won't be getting any other RC's. He did say, however, that they will eventually stock the Veritas models.
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post #42503 of 47705
12/12/12 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Went to my local Fry's yesterday. They still have the same 14 RC-70s in boxes in the middle of the sound room floor. At least there is a price tag now which is currently $599 ea. Will they ever come on sale, who knows? But they're not moving at all right now.

What would consider a good deal ? $399 ea ? Would they kill my RC-LCR's real bad ?
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post #42504 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:08pm
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What would consider a good deal ? $399 ea ? Would they kill my RC-LCR's real bad ?

If you have a good subwoofer, probably not for movies and games...May slightly beat the LCR's but not murder them. I am going by what i have read. There are 10x better experience people here than me so take what i saw with a grain of salt. * NINJA VANISH *
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post #42505 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:13pm
Most people use the RC-70's up front with a RC LCR center.

How many RC LCR's do you have?

The RC-70 is definitely a better speaker. It'll play lower and sound better with music, plus you wont need stands. If your main use is home theater or games then maybe it wont make a huge difference for you if you have a quality subwoofer.

$399 each or below would be a good price for this speaker.
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post #42506 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Did any of you guys asked if they (Fry's) plan on getting other RC speakers? I understand that people do buy 2.0 setups but if anybody wants to upgrade to a 5.0 setup, the absence of matching speakers is a serious obstacle. I bet the question is: are they getting the 70s from a new production run or is this only leftovers from Vann's?


For what it's worth I did call vanns earlier in the week regarding anymore rc speakers coming in. He obviously said no BUT he did should some clarance rc-10 and rc-70 speakers that were being refurbish that should go up for sale clarence but he couldn't tell me when frown.gif . He said check the website every few days. Just another option I know its not a great one but who knows.



Does anyone know of some reasonably priced speaker stands that will work with the rc-10's. Hopefully nothing that will break the bank lol... (I doubt it lol)
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post #42507 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:18pm
$40 Sanus stands will work with the RC-10s. They don't require anything special.
http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-31B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5O/ref=pd_sim_e_1

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-24B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5N/ref=pd_sim_e_2

Just use Blu Tack putty or velcro squares to hold the speaker in place on the top plate of the stand.


Been doing this with my bookshelf speakers for years.
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post #42508 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:19pm
glantern -- maybe you should wait to buy stands until you are actually read to move the RC-10's to surrounds in the basement setup? For now, you should just just throw the RC-10's in a closet and enjoy your new RC-50's, which of course don't require stands! biggrin.gif

(as an FYI though, for surround duty you should buy the taller stands linked above to get the RC-10's at a better height... I might even go with a 36" stand)
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post #42509 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

do they even have them set up in the listening room? It seems like it's pretty hard to sell a relatively premium product without demoing it!
in my San Diego location they at least had a pair set up in the "fancy room" with the other more expensive speakers from Klipsch and Polk. The sales guy basically hinted that they were getting these speakers cheap enough that they could "name their price point" and still make a profit, so there may be room to negotiate if you are ready to buy.

Yep, they have a pair setup in the same room connected to a receiver. The salesman had to look up the price back then and he said they were $799. so at least they've lowered the price to $599 which still isn't good enough. Salespeople knew absolutely nothing about these speakers which doesn't help. The little towers are some Klipsch speaker that sounded like crap to me but the sales guy was pushing them on a prospective customer.

I took the grilles off for the photo and replaced them before I left the store.



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Did any of you guys asked if they (Fry's) plan on getting other RC speakers? I understand that people do buy 2.0 setups but if anybody wants to upgrade to a 5.0 setup, the absence of matching speakers is a serious obstacle. I bet the question is: are they getting the 70s from a new production run or is this only leftovers from Vann's?

My guess is that this is just leftover stock which may have been targeted for Vanns. I wouldn't expect to see RC-10's or RC-LCR at Fry's but you never know!
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post #42510 of 47705
12/12/12 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

glantern -- maybe you should wait to buy stands until you are actually read to move the RC-10's to surrounds in the basement setup? For now, you should just just throw the RC-10's in a closet and enjoy your new RC-50's, which of course don't require stands! biggrin.gif
(as an FYI though, for surround duty you should buy the taller stands linked above to get the RC-10's at a better height... I might even go with a 36" stand)

I actually have my RC-10s on a 36" Wood Technology stand that I got a few years ago.
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