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post #42751 of 47714
12/24/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

no mention of polks except for some book shelf ones, on sale in the flyers, dont know about on line flyer yet comes out at 6pm..
if you want rc 70 and the store only has 1 pair... you might be out of luck....
merry christmas..
I think there are Polks in the Web-only flyer. RTi10s for $600/pr, Seems like a good deal for those...
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post #42752 of 47714
12/24/12 at 1:07pm
have you seen the flyer yet? i cant get it till 6 pm est
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post #42753 of 47714
12/24/12 at 4:51pm
Preview for FS: http://www.redflagdeals.com/flyers/future-shop/web-only-boxing-day-sale-7033/
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post #42754 of 47714
12/24/12 at 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by DWells55 View Post

How recently? I looked up that receiver and it looks incredible, but I can't find it anywhere on the Best Buy web site. Given how much the selection sucks at my local Best Buy, I need a way of checking inventory in the surrounding area. I'll check my local stores, but I don't have high hopes.

The Denon 1712 has been discontinued since this summer. If you happen to find one now consider yourself lucky. You used to be able to check the clearance items by store but since Black Friday I don't see it anymore. Maybe because its hard to track inventory during the holiday season?

My guess is clearance items will show up again on the BB website after New Years and they get a chance to update the inventory.
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post #42755 of 47714
12/24/12 at 6:14pm
I spoke too soon alright. Same deal on the RC-70s as last year and the year before; also same quantities. Certainly not leftovers from Vann's then! So maybe production is not shut down after all... A word of caution for Canadian buyers though: while the RC-70s are amazing speakers it may be almost impossible to find any other speaker in the RC series, including in the US, so unless your planning on using five towers for a 5.0 setup, they'd be best for two-channel setups. Also keep your receipt: the price may go lower in a few weeks. Last year they got first knocked back to $475 each and I made a virtual return (just got $50 back by presenting my receipt) -- but this gives you a new receipt with a new buy date. Price got reduced further to $400 each a few weeks later and was able to get another virtual return and $150 more in my pockets. Those rebates will of course depend on stock and demand.
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post #42756 of 47714
12/24/12 at 6:47pm
I'm glad to see members from Canada getting the rc-70s for a good price.smile.gif
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post #42757 of 47714
12/24/12 at 8:01pm
wow neutro i just bought a pair of rc 70... i didnt get the confirmation email but i checked on the phone they siad if i got the order # im good..

now i need to get some big powerful amps.. to feed these speakers ... to make em really sing...

been looking at the emotiva xpa 2 300 watts / channel or the xpa 100 250 watt mono blocks... but maybe i should go for broke with the xpr 5 400 watts / channel


merry christmas to all

ps would be great if they lower the price to 400 too...

polks are real cheap at fs now too ati 9 cheap cheap..

9.2 pioneer amp cheap too.. almost 1/2 price denon is not in the game right now..
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post #42758 of 47714
12/24/12 at 8:06pm
oh yeah i would buy 2 more but you can only buy 2 per household...

dont think would be a good centre channel speaker would block my tv too much lol..

cheers
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post #42759 of 47714
12/24/12 at 9:36pm
yes very good price Losservator smile.gif
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post #42760 of 47714
12/25/12 at 12:46am
do you think 6.3s up front and 5.2 centre with rc 70 for surrounds sound good...
with an energy veritas v 10 sub...

perhaps with vs surrounds in the back but i dont own those yet 399.. im thinking maybe i should get a buddy to buy me 2 more rc 70s for the back.. only 100 more

how would that sound

then i could add the xpr 5 400 watt / channel amp so the system can handle the power.. real clean power..

merry christmas..
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post #42761 of 47714
12/25/12 at 11:39am
Merry Christmas to everyone.
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post #42762 of 47714
12/25/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

do you think 6.3s up front and 5.2 centre with rc 70 for surrounds sound good...
with an energy veritas v 10 sub...
I am guessing that you should really upgrade that sub... and by 'really' I mean REALLY... smile.gif
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post #42763 of 47714
12/25/12 at 2:31pm
Alright, tell me if what I just did is the right thing...

First, my room -- 12x18x8 (perfectly rectangle, no openings to other areas, one door, one window at the short end of the room opposite the screen). The door to the room is at the screen end, right up against the short wall where the screen is projected, close enough that I have clearance issues to worry about. The speaker I have now is 9.5" deep and keeps the door from opening very far before smacking it.

My speakers -- RC Micro 5.0 that I bought last week. And another one on the way just because the price dropped to $60, though I don't really have any idea what I'll do with them.

What I just did -- I bought two V-Minis from Vanns, to be right & left channels, and a CC-10 to be the center channel (I don't have clearance problems with the center channel, so I figured I'd get something meatier). My intention is to leave the RC-Micro surrounds, and take the two front RC Micros and use them for rear surrounds as part of a 7.1 setup. The center I won't have a use for.

Then, I figure with the highs & mids nicely covered, I'll pick up a BIC F12 to handle the grunt. Can I cross it over at 80hz and then put it in the back of the room where I have some free space? It'd be nice to keep the screen end of the room as clear as possible unless that presents a sound problem.

Please let me know what you think of my plans!

Dave
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post #42764 of 47714
12/25/12 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

do you think 6.3s up front and 5.2 centre with rc 70 for surrounds sound good...
with an energy veritas v 10 sub...
I am guessing that you should really upgrade that sub... and by 'really' I mean REALLY... smile.gif

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post #42765 of 47714
12/25/12 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by Rootus View Post

Alright, tell me if what I just did is the right thing...

First, my room -- 12x18x8 (perfectly rectangle, no openings to other areas, one door, one window at the short end of the room opposite the screen). The door to the room is at the screen end, right up against the short wall where the screen is projected, close enough that I have clearance issues to worry about. The speaker I have now is 9.5" deep and keeps the door from opening very far before smacking it.

My speakers -- RC Micro 5.0 that I bought last week. And another one on the way just because the price dropped to $60, though I don't really have any idea what I'll do with them.

What I just did -- I bought two V-Minis from Vanns, to be right & left channels, and a CC-10 to be the center channel (I don't have clearance problems with the center channel, so I figured I'd get something meatier). My intention is to leave the RC-Micro surrounds, and take the two front RC Micros and use them for rear surrounds as part of a 7.1 setup. The center I won't have a use for.

Then, I figure with the highs & mids nicely covered, I'll pick up a BIC F12 to handle the grunt. Can I cross it over at 80hz and then put it in the back of the room where I have some free space? It'd be nice to keep the screen end of the room as clear as possible unless that presents a sound problem.

Please let me know what you think of my plans!

Dave

What receiver do you have? Hopefully one with a good room correction program to handle that mish mash of speakers.

An 80hz crossover will not work. The CC-10 is the only speaker listed that can handle that, the Minis need a 100-120hz crossover and the Micros probably 150hz. If your receiver only allows one crossover for all channels you probably want 100-120hz.

While you got a great deal on some of those speakers, it seems a bit of shame to have a dedicated room with a PJ screen paired with tiny speakers. If you are restricted by space constraints such that you can't match up larger main speakers with the center, so be it, but I would use some of the "savings" from the Micros and get a much bettert sub than he F12. If you have a dedicated room and really want to make it sound like a rocking theater, the sub is vital and a great sub can help mask some of the other weaknesses... and given the high crossover need the sub is going to be doing a lot of work. At the minimum I'd go up to $300 for the Klipsch RW 12d (when it's on sale at Newegg), if you can get up to $500 (SVS PB-1000 or Outlaw LFM-1 for example) even better.
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post #42766 of 47714
12/25/12 at 7:50pm
Hey, as I mentioned above, I'm coming from the world of HTIB setups, so I've got some noob questions:

Can anyone with the RC-Micros let me know what gauge wire they'll accept? I was planning on going with 14awg - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=2820

Also, will they accept something like these pin plugs - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=5975

If not, are those really necessary? I mean, it's been a while, but how hard can it be to twist some copper speaker wire strands together and put them in a clamp on a speaker? That said, I was planning on using banana plugs for the receiver just because I hear it reduces the risk of shorting things out. Also, is it necessary to shrink tube them?

Thanks.
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post #42767 of 47714
12/25/12 at 8:34pm
I was lucky to score a almost new black C-C3 dealer demo last month. This is one big bad center channel weighing in at 30+ lbs. With its dual 6.5" woofers it's perfect timbre-matched for my C-3's. I'm not letting this baby go anytime soon...
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post #42768 of 47714
12/25/12 at 9:39pm
what sub you recommending?

the veritas sub was sounding really good witht he v 6.3s.. that is until they started smoking.. still waiting for replacement to arrive at the store.. i guess the rc 70 will be here before the new veritas..

maybe i should just get a few more rc 70s... would love to compare the rc 70s with the v6.3 in my home...

will get an amp this week as well.. think i could use 2 amps.. xpa 5 and xpa 2 would work well with a 7.1 but funds are running out so ... xpa 2 to start see how it performs would like 2 subs as well

cheers..
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post #42769 of 47714
12/25/12 at 11:52pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

what sub you recommending?



cheers..


how much did you paid for the energy v10 sub?
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post #42770 of 47714
12/25/12 at 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by DWells55 View Post

Hey, as I mentioned above, I'm coming from the world of HTIB setups, so I've got some noob questions:
Can anyone with the RC-Micros let me know what gauge wire they'll accept? I was planning on going with 14awg - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=2820
Also, will they accept something like these pin plugs - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=5975
If not, are those really necessary? I mean, it's been a while, but how hard can it be to twist some copper speaker wire strands together and put them in a clamp on a speaker? That said, I was planning on using banana plugs for the receiver just because I hear it reduces the risk of shorting things out. Also, is it necessary to shrink tube them?
Thanks.

The wire gauge is fine. As for the pins, they work. I tried them with the micros. But you don't need them. The micros have a spring loaded design, just pull the pin down, insert the wire, and release the pin. As far as banana plugs go, it also isn't necessary, but a few of us use them. To me, it makes things in the rear look more tidy than just plain speaker wire going into the receiver. I'm not sure what u mean by shrink tube, but the banana plugs that have no sleeve I just wrap electric tape around them.
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post #42771 of 47714
12/26/12 at 3:13am
was a package deal

v sub and 2 veritas for 2249...

sub for free.. or 749 each plus taxes in canada very good price..
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post #42772 of 47714
12/26/12 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

What receiver do you have? Hopefully one with a good room correction program to handle that mish mash of speakers.
Onkyo NR-515.
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An 80hz crossover will not work. The CC-10 is the only speaker listed that can handle that, the Minis need a 100-120hz crossover and the Micros probably 150hz. If your receiver only allows one crossover for all channels you probably want 100-120hz.
While you got a great deal on some of those speakers, it seems a bit of shame to have a dedicated room with a PJ screen paired with tiny speakers. If you are restricted by space constraints such that you can't match up larger main speakers with the center, so be it, but I would use some of the "savings" from the Micros and get a much bettert sub than he F12. If you have a dedicated room and really want to make it sound like a rocking theater, the sub is vital and a great sub can help mask some of the other weaknesses... and given the high crossover need the sub is going to be doing a lot of work. At the minimum I'd go up to $300 for the Klipsch RW 12d (when it's on sale at Newegg), if you can get up to $500 (SVS PB-1000 or Outlaw LFM-1 for example) even better.
Ok, I'll check into that.

My only reason for the 80hz crossover was so I could put the sub somewhere out of sight. If I need to be up 100-120hz, that's fine, I'll put it up front. Wishful thinking, that's all :-). It's almost a dedicated home theater, it will serve double duty during the daytime as an auxiliary play area for the kids, so minimizing things on the screen end of the room will make everyone happier.
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post #42773 of 47714
12/26/12 at 11:58am
Guys, what do you think would be a good center channel stand for my LCR?

I have the Sanus SF series for my Left and Right Channels.

http://www.amazon.com/Sanus--Inch-Bookshelf-Speaker-Stand/dp/B004T7VCM0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356551826&sr=8-1&keywords=SF26

Saw this one below for only $50 and it looks very similar to my SF Series.

http://www.amazon.com/VTI-Series-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B0007P85JG/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Or I could get the SF Series Center for Double that

http://www.amazon.com/Sanus-SFC18B-Foundations-Channel-Speaker/dp/B0002ZLZ7K/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1356551304&sr=1-1&keywords=SFC18B

Thoughts on which one?

Also based on the image below would you get the 18" or 22" Stand. Currently the center is sitting on my Old Subwoofer angled up towards the listener a little. The Sub height is 16-7/8"


Edited by ffactoryxx - 12/26/12 at 12:03pm
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post #42774 of 47714
12/26/12 at 2:39pm
That is a tough decision as both stands are VERY beautiful. I own several Sanus stands as well. I would purchase the VTI to get it into my home so that I could check for color/texture matching (if those details are important to you). If you're not satisfied with it return it and order the Sanus center stand from Amazon. It will match with your other Steel Foundations stands perfectly. Good luck!!!
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post #42775 of 47714
12/26/12 at 2:57pm
I relocated from my old apartment to a small rental house in San Diego during the first week of December. The new place offers me more space to set up my speakers into a 7.2 channel speaker configuration. I do not have all of the real estate I could use to place the speakers in the suggested Dolby 7.1 channel positions so I had to make some compromises due to the lack of space. I am currently using a pair Polk M3s (purchased in 1993) for my surround backs; this is a temporary solution until I purchase a pair of Energy CB10s to take over the surround duty for my CB5s. The CB5s will replace the Polks for surround backs at that time. But given that the stands that the Polks are sitting on (28" Sanus Euro Foundations) are short I find myself liking them because they aim upward. I thought I would share some images of my new setup.


Edited by erhurd - 12/26/12 at 3:47pm
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post #42776 of 47714
12/26/12 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

beautiful speakers. im really interested in your thoughts of the sound. my reference 22's are in my opinion the best spekers i ever owned sound wise.

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Holy mackerel! Those are beautiful speakers, what.a finish! Can't wait to hear your impressions of them vs the V1.8's.
CONGRATS!!!

Thanks batt50, the 22 Reference Connoisseurs sound fantastic. I put them against the Pro 22s and they were noticeably better all around with the music I used.
Thanks batpig! They are definitely incredible speakers! The finish is awesome and almost perfect. This guy loved and took care of them.

I know there will be a ton of people very excited with their new Boxing Day new Energy speakers, so this will be brief. I will be happy to give more details later on. The 22 Reference Connoisseurs are very very good speakers. I have used them head to head against the old Veritas for quite a few hours now. There will be more details later, but they are outclassed, but a definite worthy showing. The detail is lost in the mids and highs, and the bass is not as punchy and powerful, but the bass is definitely undeniable. The bass is considerably slower but it is very impressive. I will be comparing the RC-70s and 50s to them, and I have an idea that the RC-50s will be beat out, and possibly the RC-70s as well. I hope this gives a quick indication of what these speakers are capable of.
Anyways I hope everyone is having an awesome holiday season!! smile.gif


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post #42777 of 47714
12/26/12 at 7:03pm
Well, I posted a few days ago about the RC-70's at Future Shop's boxing day sale and how I wasn't and couldn't pull the trigger on the upgrade from my RC-50's. Well, I lied. rolleyes.gif I did pull the trigger... tongue.gif
I'm sure that I *won't* hear much difference between these and my current 50's because of my unfortunate room set up, but I thought about it and thought about it, and I just couldn't pass them up again knowing that it very well could be the last time we see these brand new and at these prices. When I bought the 50's my plead to my wife was "I'll never need speakers again after these" or something along those lines.... She reminded me about what I said when I mentioned these. rolleyes.gif Well, these 70's will surely be "the last speakers I ever need"! Someone on here please remind me of this!
I can't wait to get them into a better room situation to enjoy them more fully.... Now to sell the RC-50's - or keep them?? hahaha
Anyone in the Kitchener-Waterloo area interested in a pair of 1 year old RC-50's? wink.gif

Edit: Really hoping they drop to $400/each again too! biggrin.gif
Edited by advil_yum - 12/26/12 at 7:08pm
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post #42778 of 47714
12/26/12 at 7:14pm
You could always use your RC50s as "surrounds on steroids"...
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post #42779 of 47714
12/26/12 at 7:28pm
congrats on your new rc 70s what kind of power are you using to drive em..?

you ever try some acoustic treatments for your room

cheers
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post #42780 of 47714
12/26/12 at 10:57pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

what sub you recommending?
the veritas sub was sounding really good witht he v 6.3s.. that is until they started smoking.. still waiting for replacement to arrive at the store.. i guess the rc 70 will be here before the new veritas..
maybe i should just get a few more rc 70s... would love to compare the rc 70s with the v6.3 in my home...
will get an amp this week as well.. think i could use 2 amps.. xpa 5 and xpa 2 would work well with a 7.1 but funds are running out so ... xpa 2 to start see how it performs would like 2 subs as well
cheers..

As others have mentioned, you'll get more bang for your buck out of a better sub than an amp or using RC-70s in the rear. For example, check out the Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus. On sale through Sunday.
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