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post #43081 of 51590
WWstereo was cool about taking them back. They want to file a claim with UPS so I have to take apart everything again and take pictures. That is a real pain because I double boxed everything again and sealed them. I went ahead and just paid for another set so I will get them quicker because they wont refund until they get them and that means a long turn around. Oh well this stuff happens. With all the online shopping I do I hardly ever get an issue.
post #43082 of 51590
Hi everyone. Don't mean to hijack this thread. I'm a newbie here and was hoping someone could tell me if they have any experience with the Energy EAS-6C in-ceiling speakers? They're on sale at FS for $99/pair. Was thinking of grabbing some to use for whole-home audio. Any thoughts?
post #43083 of 51590
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Originally Posted by advil_yum View Post

That's odd. I've purchased from them twice in the past. For my RC-50's and ESW-V10. No issues with Canadian Credit cards? I don't specifically remember how I paid though, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't anywhere but directly through them. What if you call them up?
Actually, I just looked it up, and I had to call them to order as the website didn't allow it. But there shouldn't be a problem getting them if you call. Good luck!

I just called to try and order three of these and they said they wouldn't/couldn't sell to a Canadian credit card. I really want to pick up a set. I guess I'll try to get an amazon card or something. Unless you can tell me the right way to do it.

I currently have two rc-70s up front with a pioneer vsx-1326k receiver (and some crappy surrounds and Center that I want to replace). Should I be trying to place these veritas speakers with this system? I was thinking of putting one as a Center and two for my rears. Or I could use the 70s as the rears and the 5.2s across the front. Any thoughts or suggestions are most welcome. I'm just getting into the decent HT systems.

Cheers.
post #43084 of 51590
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

Sorry, which website? Could you explain the process you went through please?

Really straightforward process.

1.click on this link for the V5.2C
http://www.wwstereo.com/Energy/V5.2CPIANB

2. Add to cart and change quantity to 3 if you want 3 speakers.

3. Add promo code VER52WW and click APPLY


4. At bottom of page under checkout you'll see the discounted order total and the option to Pay With Amazon. Click on it.


5. It takes you to the Amazon logon and you fill out your info and you're done.
Edited by afrogt - 1/4/13 at 8:02am
post #43085 of 51590
Awesome. That was easy! Done and done. Three en route!!
Thanks so much !
post #43086 of 51590
Afrogt said it best. Enjoy your Veritas NathanG30, i know i will mine once i get them.
post #43087 of 51590
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Originally Posted by SightSeeker1 View Post

WWstereo was cool about taking them back. They want to file a claim with UPS so I have to take apart everything again and take pictures. That is a real pain because I double boxed everything again and sealed them. I went ahead and just paid for another set so I will get them quicker because they wont refund until they get them and that means a long turn around. Oh well this stuff happens. With all the online shopping I do I hardly ever get an issue.

So it was mainly a case of UPS mishandling the boxes doing a bad transport job. Ufff. At least WWstereo were cool about taking them back.
post #43088 of 51590
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

Was seriously considering selling my LCR (only used for 2 movies) for $200....hahah didn't think it was worth much



You DO want to sell your LCR for $200..... tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by _Avarice_ - 1/4/13 at 8:48am
post #43089 of 51590
You're a boss afrog, thanks. I didn't see that Amazon link the first time.
post #43090 of 51590
It's too late now...since I've ordered them... but, what do you guys think, the three 5.2s up front with Rc-70s in the back or two 5.2s in the rear?

Thanks.
post #43091 of 51590
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Originally Posted by pokekevin

Was seriously considering selling my LCR (only used for 2 movies) for $200....hahah didn't think it was worth much
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post


You DO want to sell your LCR for $200..... tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

That's funny. Of course he could sell for less than $300 if he wants to be nice to a fellow AVS member, especially if he got one of those Meijer deals for $179.
post #43092 of 51590
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

It's too late now...since I've ordered them... but, what do you guys think, the three 5.2s up front with Rc-70s in the back or two 5.2s in the rear?
Thanks.

I would go with 5.2's all around. The rears dont need to be that big, and you will probably get a better result with the better timbre matching. Just my opinion though.
post #43093 of 51590
If you do a lot of two channel music you'll probably want the RC-70's up front.

One thing, if you decide to sell your RC-70's and go with five V5.2C's you'll have no problem getting rid of the towers.
post #43094 of 51590
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Here you go: http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/pb-1000#.UOSkH288B8E
This will be a MONSTER upgrade from the little Take 8" sub. It's front ported and front firing too, so should minimize and issues with the cubby.

Do you think this sub would fit well with my setup: V-Minis for the front left/right, CC-10 for center channel, Micros for side/rear surrounds?
post #43095 of 51590
Thanks a lot guys.

I use my system 70/30 movies/music. I'll try it in different arrangements.
I likely won't be spending anymore on the system for a while at least not until next Boxing Day!

I also just picked up the Energy Power12 subwoofer at Futureshop on Boxing Day and now it is $30 cheaper. Is this a good sub for what my needs are. The room is not that large and is shaped awkwardly. Lol. Carpeted. 50" plasma. Open door at viewer end.
post #43096 of 51590
The PB-1000 is the sub i'm getting once i have the funds.
post #43097 of 51590
So I had all intentions of going with v5.2s across the front stage at that blowout pricing....but now I couldn't help myself and have procured a pair of RC-70s as well biggrin.gif

So I may have RC-70 mains, v5.2 wides, v5.2 heights (which is why I was asking about the corner mounted bracket the other day) and a v5.2 center. I know that is not ideal to not have a matched front stage but I just couldn't pass up on the 70s as I feel stock will be drying up soon.

Now I wanted the 70s especially for music because, despite being a historically 90/10 guy, I have started to enjoy two channel listening a bit more recently. I can't imagine that it's going to be a big issue not being timbre matched for movies. How often are there lateral pans involving dialogue or music in a movie (which is the only place where I think it'd be noticeable). Is my logic wrong here or am I setting myself up for failure?

Can't wait to have a 9.2 system!
post #43098 of 51590
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

Thanks a lot guys.
I use my system 70/30 movies/music. I'll try it in different arrangements.
I likely won't be spending anymore on the system for a while at least not until next Boxing Day!
I also just picked up the Energy Power12 subwoofer at Futureshop on Boxing Day and now it is $30 cheaper. Is this a good sub for what my needs are. The room is not that large and is shaped awkwardly. Lol. Carpeted. 50" plasma. Open door at viewer end.

Those new Power subs are crappy! I wouldn't recommend them for anyone.

75 watts continuous power
35hz bottom end.
26.8lbs

That's horrible for a 12" subwoofer

You can do much better. this Klipsch has the same frequency response but more power for the same price and its only a 10" sub.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/klipsch-klipsch-10-subwoofer-rpw-10-single-speaker-rpw10/10105923.aspx?path=ac30cc1fcb762a3581802d55b7ac2f47en02

I'd still want something with a lower bottom end so keep looking.
Edited by afrogt - 1/4/13 at 11:23am
post #43099 of 51590
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

Thanks a lot guys.
I use my system 70/30 movies/music. I'll try it in different arrangements.
I likely won't be spending anymore on the system for a while at least not until next Boxing Day!
I also just picked up the Energy Power12 subwoofer at Futureshop on Boxing Day and now it is $30 cheaper. Is this a good sub for what my needs are. The room is not that large and is shaped awkwardly. Lol. Carpeted. 50" plasma. Open door at viewer end.

Did you have another sub that it replaced? I think you could have done better on this, since this is only a 75 watt continuous, 150 watt dynamic sub with a freq. range of 35 - 120 Hz. The RC-70's go down to 31 Hz, while the 5.2c's go to 48 Hz. Much more than the frequency range, though is the power. This Klipsch sub (Synergy sub-10) has a freq. range of 28-120Hz, 200 watts continuous, 420 dynamic at 179 at Newegg (don't know if this works for you in Canada).

If you already had a sub, it might be better to save for a good sub in the 500 range down the line. Just my 2 cents.
post #43100 of 51590
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

I also just picked up the Energy Power12 subwoofer at Futureshop on Boxing Day and now it is $30 cheaper. Is this a good sub for what my needs are. The room is not that large and is shaped awkwardly. Lol. Carpeted. 50" plasma. Open door at viewer end.

I gotta say that I agree with the other guys. Its almost a travesty to have quality speakers like the V5.2's and RC-70s paired with that sub. I would return it if you could.

If you are looking to stay budget, check out the BIC F12 or V1220. Check out this thread on budget subs as well. Lots of good info:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1396482/budget-subwoofers-discussions-opinions-and-questions-thread

But I'll agree with the other guys. Save up a bit more for a good sub. I went with the energy S10.3 myself.....but then again I am cheap and live in a condo where I can hardly use it.
post #43101 of 51590
Your Energy s10.3 is way better than the Power12.

I have a s10.3 myself and its great for home theater and music.

He is in Canada so his choices may be limited.
post #43102 of 51590
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

He is in Canada so his choices may be limited.

Indeed. All the good budget subs are either unavailable -- or available but not really at a budget price -- in Canada. And ordering from the US and getting it delivered to a Kinek point is nice but a bit ridiculous for a sub under $200. To add to that, the used marked is rather bleak for subs in Canada.

Even good subs are hard to come by. It's hard to argue against the ID brands but most of them don't ship to Canada, or will be expensive to import. Only SVS have a Canadian distributor (sonicboomaudio.com), which is great (spent thousands there already biggrin.gif) but the starting point is far above $200. No news on when SBA will carry the new entry level SB-1000 and PB-1000.

EDIT: SBA now sells the SB-1000 and PB-1000 for $499 which is a bit easier to swallow than the $700-to-$800 price tag of the NSD series.
Edited by neutro - 1/4/13 at 12:13pm
post #43103 of 51590
I currently use 2 vsw10 subs and was wondering how this compares to the svs pb-1000 and if it would be much of an "upgrade" and worth considering. What do you guys think?

VSW10 - 300 watts RMS, 1200 watts peak, frequency range of 23Hz-120Hz, 40lbs
pb-1000 - 300 watts RMS, 720 watts peak, frequency range of 19Hz-270Hz, 46lbs

Maybe it is an "upgrade" or maybe it's just my weakness for audio acting up again :-)
Edited by zdoggz - 1/4/13 at 12:16pm
post #43104 of 51590
I don't think the VSW-10 hits hard much below 30hz.. I remember seeing graphs before.

I bet the PB1000 does.
post #43105 of 51590
Thanks for the 'critique' on the Power12 and all of the advice guys, I appreciate it. It was somewhat of an impulse buy, it was boxing day, I was up early, I saw the regular price at ~$500 and the sale price of $230 made me snatch it up. I will be returning it and will save for a better sub/deal.
As for a previous sub that it was replacing...I was just borrowing my parents Polk (not sure what model) while their house was being renovated. I can steal it back at any time while I wait...

I live only 45 minutes from a US border, so I ship stuff to the border store and pick it up all the time, that's what I just did for the 5.2s. So, that said, if there is an amazing deal on a more preffered sub from the states I would have no problem picking one up.

Cheers.
post #43106 of 51590
Interesting...i got the vsw10s when they were on sale and got them for a really good price. I do hear good things about the svs pb1000 though so thats why i asked. I also see emotiva's xref12 sub (currently 599) that seems to be a good value, but i dont see nearly as many ppl talking about them as I do the SVS.

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/speakers/products/xref12
post #43107 of 51590
the Veritas subs are very nice, they have awesome build quality and powerful amps and can hit very clean, but the PB-1000 is on another level in terms of output and extension. It's a much bigger box, and will hit hard down to a legitimate 20Hz.

So the real question is whether you want to go lower and louder -- the SVS's will be able to reproduce that "sub bass" stuff in heavy LFE movie action that the Veritas subs count. And they will play louder too before falling off. I doubt they will be "cleaner" though.
post #43108 of 51590
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

Is my logic wrong here or am I setting myself up for failure?

I think you are setting yourself up for AWESOME! biggrin.gif
post #43109 of 51590
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

Thanks for the 'critique' on the Power12 and all of the advice guys, I appreciate it. It was somewhat of an impulse buy, it was boxing day, I was up early, I saw the regular price at ~$500 and the sale price of $230 made me snatch it up. I will be returning it and will save for a better sub/deal.

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif They are selling that box of crap for $500??? eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif
post #43110 of 51590
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Originally Posted by Rootus View Post

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Here you go: http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/pb-1000#.UOSkH288B8E
This will be a MONSTER upgrade from the little Take 8" sub. It's front ported and front firing too, so should minimize and issues with the cubby.

Do you think this sub would fit well with my setup: V-Minis for the front left/right, CC-10 for center channel, Micros for side/rear surrounds?

I think so -- if you look at the graphs the response is ruler flat up to 200Hz:



SVS subs are well regarded for their flat response, and they always hold up in independent tests, so I doubt that graph is lying (although of course you won't get that kind of actual flat response in a real room, but that's another issue).

I don't remember how big your room is but another option is the sealed "brother" of the PB-1000, the SB-1000: http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box/sb-1000#.UOdFZW88B8E

The sealed version won't be able to go quite as low or loud because it doesn't have the port to reinforce the bass, but it will be "tighter" and "cleaner" than the ported version and may fit better when you need such a high crossover. Also, being much smaller and a sealed box, it is much more flexible with placement options, which may be important for you as the high crossover will mean the bass could be localizable if the placement isn't ideal.
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