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post #43291 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:11am
Just talking (typing) out loud, but I'm fighting the urge to buy three of the V5.2C from wwstereo since it sounds like we're at the end of the line for the Energy RC & V series. I have no current use for them unless they were able to take the place of my RC70s/RCLCR/RCR setup (doubtful) and I already have a piano black pair of VS surrounds, but I like the rosenut much better. To buy or not to buy and if yes, what colour? Damn these first-world problems!!
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post #43292 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:18am
I have a RC-LCR sitting at home in a box for months, and will continue to do so for a while yet. Bought it for $199 at meijer.com. I think is cost $300-something in the end...well worth it... I am in Canada.
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post #43293 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by MuaySteve View Post

I would think the Energy CB-5's would be the ticket. Or maybe one pair of CB-5s and one pair of the CR-10 srounds (if you are wall mounting.)


http://www.amazon.com/Energy-CB-5-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B001SAEXHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357754566&sr=1-1&keywords=energy+cb-5

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-CR-10-Surround-Speakers-Black/dp/B0021L9BPQ

I would think that if you looked around you could fine better price. I picked up my CR-10's for $125 on ebay.

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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

The take classic would not go down to the standard 80hz
Dont set then at 80hz or you can hurt the speakers maybe 150hz or even better 200hz.

Sat: 115Hz-20KHz

Thank you for the reply and advice. I am still learning here, so I am assuming that since the Takes only go down to 115Hz vs the CB-5s that go down to 71Hz, the Takes would sound more tinny and lack the bass of the CB-5s? Is that accurate? The CR-10s are not an option since I am mounting from the ceiling and not the wall. The CB-5s are about twice as deep as the Takes and nearly 2 inches taller, so I want to make sure that I am making a good decision based on the fact that these will be hanging from the ceiling in the middle of the room.
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post #43294 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

This is not new news, this topic is been already discuss here many times, its also been confirmed many times, but from time to time the same topic comes back.

Not to argue, but some of us are new to the forum and this thread has nearly 1,450 pages now and dates back 7 years as of 2 days from now. It is hard, when starting, to figure out where to start reading, when you know that the info in 2006 does not really apply anymore to today's product lines and competition.

So, when I started researching, I knew I could not read 6 years worth of posts, nor would it be worth my time to learn about products that were discontinued years ago. Plus, no offense to the moderators, but the search on this site does not provide results in a easy to sift through manner.
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post #43295 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:28am
I actually agree with Dustin, some of these topics are "obvious" to the regulars on this thread but for newcomers it's not always clear what the current status of the brand and the major product lines is.

It's typical on forums like these to chide people to search before asking, but as Dustin notes the search utilities make it difficult to come across accurate and specific information on more open ended topics like this.
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post #43296 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by DustinLH00 View Post

Thank you for the reply and advice. I am still learning here, so I am assuming that since the Takes only go down to 115Hz vs the CB-5s that go down to 71Hz, the Takes would sound more tinny and lack the bass of the CB-5s? Is that accurate? The CR-10s are not an option since I am mounting from the ceiling and not the wall. The CB-5s are about twice as deep as the Takes and nearly 2 inches taller, so I want to make sure that I am making a good decision based on the fact that these will be hanging from the ceiling in the middle of the room.

Yes, the CB-5's are significantly larger than the Takes (although still small) and have a 4.5" woofer with a bigger cabinet, meaning that you get two major benefits: (1) is that they wills sound fuller and "meatier" due to the additional bass, and (2) as a consequence, you can use a lower crossover point for the subwoofer, which will reduce potential issues with localization.

If you can't do the CB-5's then the V-Mini's are also a great option.

All that said, if you are on an extreme budget and you just want to get something installed for cheap, then the Takes are a solid budget option. Just be aware of the limitations and set your expectations appropriately.
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post #43297 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by DustinLH00 View Post

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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

This is not new news, this topic is been already discuss here many times, its also been confirmed many times, but from time to time the same topic comes back.

Not to argue, but some of us are new to the forum and this thread has nearly 1,450 pages now and dates back 7 years as of 2 days from now. It is hard, when starting, to figure out where to start reading, when you know that the info in 2006 does not really apply anymore to today's product lines and competition.

So, when I started researching, I knew I could not read 6 years worth of posts, nor would it be worth my time to learn about products that were discontinued years ago. Plus, no offense to the moderators, but the search on this site does not provide results in a easy to sift through manner.


Don't worry I'm just clarifying things.smile.gif


I apologize for any inconvenience.
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post #43298 of 48181
1/11/13 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by wryan View Post

I was looking to purchase a couple of new Veritas speakers to match my 6.2s to use as surrounds. I love the piano rosenut finish and wanted to match that look in the back. At $300/each with free shipping and no tax from Vann's, I was thinking about going big and purchasing two more 6.2s.

Vann's website has said "out of stock" since late November. I've been checking back every day. Finally I called Vann's and talked to Ryan in customer service. He was very knowledgable and helpful. He said that Energy has discontinued the Veritas line, and has not shared their plans for replacing the line. He said that the 6.2 is very hard to come by, that basically you have to find a local dealer than still has stock. He also mentioned that the 6.3 can still be had, as it didn't sell nearly as well as the 6.2 (because of the 6.2's very low price-point). He then helpfully suggested some different vendors and classified ads sites where I could look. Vann's always has such great customer service!

I did a little more research and it sounds as if Energy does not plan on putting anything else out that would match the Veritas line in quality at such a low price-point. And the dealers I spoke with in my search basically all said that Energy has been horrible to deal with the last year or two, and that they do not expect anything very high quality out of Energy in the future - and most won't even sell Energy anymore as they do not want to work with the company.

I called Energy, and spoke first with someone in sales. This person was not aware that 1) they do not have any more in stock (she had to go look and it took about 15 minutes), and 2) that the product line was discontinued (had to go talk to a supervisor, and that was another 10 minutes or so). She was very surprised. I thought that was strange. So I asked to talk to a product manager. He said that things are fairly up-in-the-air over there, but confirmed that the Veritas line is discontinued, and that there are no plans for a direct replacement.

Anyways, thought I'd pass along the information I found.

I did end up finding a dealer with some 6.2s (I called probably 40-50 local dealers listed on Energy's website) - The Sound Seller in Wisconsin. They were willing to part with them (with free shipping to CA) for $450, still less than half of retail, but more was willing to do. I wish I had jumped on a couple when they were $300 at Vann's.

Good info, thank you. I'm not surprised the people at Klipsch Group didn't know because they don't care about the Energy brand.

Maybe you should look at the V5.2C as a surround speaker while WWStereo has them for $169 each in black and rosenut?
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post #43299 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:03pm
Well i'm liking my V5.2Cs more and more each day. If and when my carpenter comes tomorrow with the TV riser then i can put my V5.2-C center channel speaker and do Audessey and really enjoy the V 5.2Cs like i should.biggrin.gif
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post #43300 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Yes, the CB-5's are significantly larger than the Takes (although still small) and have a 4.5" woofer with a bigger cabinet, meaning that you get two major benefits: (1) is that they wills sound fuller and "meatier" due to the additional bass, and (2) as a consequence, you can use a lower crossover point for the subwoofer, which will reduce potential issues with localization.

If you can't do the CB-5's then the V-Mini's are also a great option.

All that said, if you are on an extreme budget and you just want to get something installed for cheap, then the Takes are a solid budget option. Just be aware of the limitations and set your expectations appropriately.

Great! Thanks for the explanation!
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post #43301 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by Szeppelin75 View Post

Well i'm liking my V5.2Cs more and more each day. If and when my carpenter comes tomorrow with the TV riser then i can put my V5.2-C center channel speaker and do Audessey and really enjoy the V 5.2Cs like i should.biggrin.gif
Make sure you pictures when its all set up! biggrin.gif
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post #43302 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:18pm
I will. I haven't taken any pictures because i want the center channel speaker in the setup when i take the pictures.
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post #43303 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:32pm
so by reading the last few pages it looks like I should run to future shop and pick up a set of Veritas VSB, since I dont think they will last long.

I have the RC70 and a Vertitas Center right now
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post #43304 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by cdnjeepin View Post

so by reading the last few pages it looks like I should run to future shop and pick up a set of Veritas VSB, since I dont think they will last long.

I have the RC70 and a Vertitas Center right now



Yes if they are on sale go for it, they wont last much on sale.
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post #43305 of 48181
1/11/13 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by cdnjeepin View Post

so by reading the last few pages it looks like I should run to future shop and pick up a set of Veritas VSB, since I dont think they will last long.

I have the RC70 and a Vertitas Center right now
@ 399 that's still pretty expensive, but people might be desperate enough to pay it...
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post #43306 of 48181
1/11/13 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

@ 399 that's still pretty expensive, but people might be desperate enough to pay it...
I don't think that's a bad price at all for VS especially in Canada. I paid almost that much for used RC-Rs. I know they are more rare than the VS, but in a few years I would think the VS will be in the same boat and hold their value well.
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post #43307 of 48181
1/11/13 at 1:23pm
Wish i had the cash to cough up for the VS, but the three V 5.2C plus shipping to Panama is more than enough money that i can spend for some months.eek.gif
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post #43308 of 48181
1/11/13 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Szeppelin75 View Post

Well i'm liking my V5.2Cs more and more each day. If and when my carpenter comes tomorrow with the TV riser then i can put my V5.2-C center channel speaker and do Audessey and really enjoy the V 5.2Cs like i should.biggrin.gif

Same here, I have the Veritas v5.2 and V-S for a few weeks now and I'm VERY happy with them, never had a more detailed sound like the Veritas and no, they do not sound too bright in my opinion. Dredd on Blu-ray was a blast!!! Reference 7.1 disc for 2013 biggrin.gif
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post #43309 of 48181
1/11/13 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

I highly recommend for movies dipole/bipole for side surrounds,The great thing about RC-R is that they can also be set as direct radiating.

on a 7.1 setup 4 RC-R will be perfect.

2 sides surround sets as bipole or dipole and 2 surround back set as direct radiating.cool.gif


check out this link

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=66471
Thanks for the link it was a good read. I had never really considered dipole/bipole speakers before because in my old house I had better placement options, but in the new house the way the fireplace angles off of the left wall leaves me having the left speaker a little too close. I have been reading up on dipole/bipole for the last few days and it sounds like they will be a nice upgrade from the RC-10s!

I was a little weary about the place that I got them from because I had never heard of them and couldn't find much about them, but I talked to them yesterday about the speakers to find out their condition and the rep told me they were at their other location and she would call me today to tell me their exact condition before sending them out. She did and said they were perfect and sent me UPS tracking after the call. They also had a V2.0ci center channel in gloss black, a few cherry RC minis and a couple of other things. If anyone is interested PM me and I'll send you a link.
Edited by Saints - 1/11/13 at 2:57pm
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post #43310 of 48181
1/11/13 at 3:09pm
Starting to feel better about not selling that new extra pair of V6.2's rosenut I purchased this summer.
Sounds like they are hard to find now.
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post #43311 of 48181
1/11/13 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by Saints View Post

I don't think that's a bad price at all for VS especially in Canada. I paid almost that much for used RC-Rs. I know they are more rare than the VS, but in a few years I would think the VS will be in the same boat and hold their value well.
You're right - for Canada, it's the lowest price I recall seeing them, but I haven't been watching them for all that long either.
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post #43312 of 48181
1/11/13 at 5:32pm
I'm starting to regret not going with Rosenut for the V5.2s instead of black. Rosenut is just so classy and blends in with everything (as does black) but with more of a presence. They are probably easier to sell too.

Oh well, first world problems.
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post #43313 of 48181
1/11/13 at 6:00pm
on the flip side of that, it seems everybody who has had issues with the tweeters on wwstereo 5.2c models has ordered rosenut...
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post #43314 of 48181
1/11/13 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

I'm starting to regret not going with Rosenut for the V5.2s instead of black. Rosenut is just so classy and blends in with everything (as does black) but with more of a presence. They are probably easier to sell too.

Oh well, first world problems.

I think black is easier to sell even though rosenut looks better.
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post #43315 of 48181
1/12/13 at 1:24am
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Good info, thank you. I'm not surprised the people at Klipsch Group didn't know because they don't care about the Energy brand.

Maybe you should look at the V5.2C as a surround speaker while WWStereo has them for $169 each in black and rosenut?

I didn't see that they were going that cheap-great idea! Thanks afrogt.
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post #43316 of 48181
1/12/13 at 2:27am
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

on the flip side of that, it seems everybody who has had issues with the tweeters on wwstereo 5.2c models has ordered rosenut...
I had problems with one tweeter and i orderded black. The dome cone is slighlty dented, but i believe it doesn't affect sound. Anyway, Wwstereo send me an emil telling me that theyll send me the tweeter once they get them in march.rolleyes.gif

Meanwhile, i'm enjoying my V 5.2c speakers.
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post #43317 of 48181
1/12/13 at 12:55pm
Is anyone in the market for a new in box Energy RC Mini center channel? i never ended up using it. i also have two used RC mini's. PM me and we can talk about what a realistic price is
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post #43318 of 48181
1/12/13 at 4:37pm
Would there be any other benefits from going from 2 RC-10s and a RC-LCR to 3 V5.2Cs besides having the frontstsge all the same?
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post #43319 of 48181
1/12/13 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by Gmonski View Post

Would there be any other benefits from going from 2 RC-10s and a RC-LCR to 3 V5.2Cs besides having the frontstsge all the same?

The same 3 up front is best, but what you have is fine. Unless you you get a killer deal, I wouldn't worry about it.
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post #43320 of 48181
1/12/13 at 7:07pm
I just bought stands today and have my veritas v-5.2 left, center, and right speakers set up. Dual energy s10.3 subs are placed up front next to the veritas and energy cf-70's are in back as surrounds. I set the veritas to small but what about the cf-70's? They have dual 6.5" woofers and are on the opposite end of the room from the subs. Set them to small also? By the way, my black veritas arrived undamaged and sound great.
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