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post #43321 of 51540
Thanks, that's what I thought. Another quick question. I have a pair of CF-70's and a pair of CF-30's left over after buying three veritas v-5.2 for the front set up. I know its over kill to run towers as surrounds but that's what I have. Which would you use for surrounds and which pair to sell? If using the subs for low frequency, am I gaining anything from the CF-70 over the CF-30?
post #43322 of 51540
Use the best speakers that you have available. Im sure that the 70s are better all around performers. Its not all about bass.
post #43323 of 51540
Do you have to sell a pair? Could you run a 7ch setup with the 70s as surrounds and the 30s as back surrounds?
post #43324 of 51540
I have a seven channel receiver but not enough space in my living room. The couch (main listening position) is against the back wall opposite the television. Speaking of selling tower speakers, how do I go about packaging these things if I can get them sold? I hope to sell them locally on craigslist but just got a free listing offer from ebay this coming week. I don't have the original boxes. Does ups or fed ex have boxes capable of handling these things?
post #43325 of 51540
Man, if you don't have the original boxes I would sell them local. It will cost a fortune to package them up, and the resultant shipping cost and ebay fees will eat into any incremental price you could get.

The free listing isn't that valuable. Listing fees are only a couple of bucks. What kills you are the final value fees and the PayPal cut.
post #43326 of 51540
Thanks again for your insight. I never sold anything on ebay. Craigslist it is.
post #43327 of 51540
How much for the 70s?
post #43328 of 51540
I have a 6.1 system consisting of 2 RC-70s, an RC-LCR centre, and 3 RC-R surrounds.

I am looking to move to a 7.1 setup, but need to acquire a 4th RC-R. If anyone is willing to part with one at a reasonable price, please PM me directly.

Thanks
post #43329 of 51540
If you can pick them up, I'd be asking $500 for the pair. I bought them new about a year ago and they are in excellent condition.
post #43330 of 51540
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Man, if you don't have the original boxes I would sell them local. It will cost a fortune to package them up, and the resultant shipping cost and ebay fees will eat into any incremental price you could get.

The free listing isn't that valuable. Listing fees are only a couple of bucks. What kills you are the final value fees and the PayPal cut.

I may be selling my v6.3s (used for 6 months) and have their original packaging, but I am still a bit hesitant in shipping them because I recall people having issues with speakers getting damaged during shipment in the original packaging. So those looking to sell and ship may still want to consider double boxing them even if they are in original packaging. Thoughts?

My reason for possibly selling my v6.3s and/or my vsw10s: To get some extra funds to put towards a top sub (ie Submersive HP)...still on the fence though since my room is only about 2100^3 feet...may just be my obsession taking over again. :-)
Edited by zdoggz - 1/13/13 at 9:29am
post #43331 of 51540
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Originally Posted by mmbuckwa View Post

If you can pick them up, I'd be asking $500 for the pair. I bought them new about a year ago and they are in excellent condition.
That's a little too far for me but a really good deal. Someone will grab them.
post #43332 of 51540
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

on the flip side of that, it seems everybody who has had issues with the tweeters on wwstereo 5.2c models has ordered rosenut...

I ordered three rosenut V5.2c's, picked them up on Friday, set them up Friday and they came in without any issues! They sound phenomenal!
That was a great deal! I wish my RC-70's were in rosenut also. Ahh well.

I am now looking to pick up a good sub at great deal...as was pointed out to me in earlier posts...the Power12 is basically a POS. Haha.

Amazon has some good deals on right now. The Energy ESW-M8 reg. $800 on sale for $299.99. JBL ES250PBK reg. $549 on sale for $199.
Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks.
post #43333 of 51540
I wouldn't get any 8" sub, especially not for $299.

The JBL might be okay, don't know anything about it. Another sub in the same price range is the BIC F12
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=pd_cp_e_1

Also the Polk PSW 250 and Klipsch RW-12d are under $300.
post #43334 of 51540
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

I ordered three rosenut V5.2c's, picked them up on Friday, set them up Friday and they came in without any issues! They sound phenomenal!
That was a great deal! I wish my RC-70's were in rosenut also. Ahh well.

I am now looking to pick up a good sub at great deal...as was pointed out to me in earlier posts...the Power12 is basically a POS. Haha.

Amazon has some good deals on right now. The Energy ESW-M8 reg. $800 on sale for $299.99. JBL ES250PBK reg. $549 on sale for $199.
Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks.
I agree with afrogt about the esw m8 and the rw12. The jbl has known amp and circuit board issues. Read the Amazon reviews before buying.
post #43335 of 51540
Amazon had the Energy ESW-M8 with a GoldBox deal last week for $250, so you may see it there again. You typically see their deals pop up multiple times if you are looking at them regularly. Although I've heard quite a bit that that particular sub (especially at 8") is better suited for a computer/home office setup...
post #43336 of 51540
The ESW-M8 sub is specifically designed to be SMALL. It's expensive because of the design engineering needed to get good quality bass out of a teensy little 8" cube. But you can't overcome physics and the sub will not produce bass like a sub with a larger enclosure. It rolls off steeply below 40Hz.

It you specifically want a sub that can output a lot of bass in as small a form factor as possible, then it's a good choice, but for a "serious" HT setup it can be outperformed for the money by larger subs. You are paying a premium for the size.
post #43337 of 51540
From what I understand this is a beast in a small box but good luck finding it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TA8ZJK/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5
post #43338 of 51540
This review tells you everything you need to know about the M8: http://www.avhub.com.au/images/stories/australian-hifi/reviews/2012/2012-03/energy_esw-m8_subwoofer_equipment_review_lores.pdf


Actually if you follow this Amazon link instead it's available for $299: http://www.amazon.com/Energy-ESW-M8-NA-200-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B004TA8YNW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358189851&sr=1-1&keywords=mirage+mm8

I see them sell regularly on eBay for less than that too. It's worth pointing out that the ESW-M8 from Energy is identical with the Mirage MM-8 (as are the smaller ESW-M6 and MM-6 variants). Given the size and the incredibly flat response up to 200Hz+, this sub would really be perfect for matching up with a satellite speaker package (Takes, Micros, or Minis) in a smallish room.

Although if I really need max boom from a small box, at $299, I'd be tempted to just save up a little more and get the SVS SB-1000 which should crush the M8 for only $200 more and a slightly larger package (13" cube vs. a 9" cube).
post #43339 of 51540
Nah, I don't need to save space. I was just wondering if the ESW-M8 was good or not. It seemed to be an expensive sub going for a good deal and I was originally under the impression that all Energy products were quality. What you guys have mentioned makes sense.

I'll look into the Polk PSW 250 and Klipsch RW-12d. Do you guys think they would integrate with my system well?
Pioneer VSX-1326k, RC-70 left & right, V5.2C center & rears.
post #43340 of 51540
I was just going to edit my previous post and ask if that was the same as the esw m8. OK. Please ignore my ignorance.
post #43341 of 51540
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Originally Posted by NathanG30 View Post

Nah, I don't need to save space. I was just wondering if the ESW-M8 was good or not. It seemed to be an expensive sub going for a good deal and I was originally under the impression that all Energy products were quality. What you guys have mentioned makes sense.

I'll look into the Polk PSW 250 and Klipsch RW-12d. Do you guys think they would integrate with my system well?
Pioneer VSX-1326k, RC-70 left & right, V5.2C center & rears.
Yes and I prefer the rw. Only because I have one and love it.
post #43342 of 51540
Yeah, especially given the quality of your speakers (the RC-70's play as deep as the M8 subwoofer themselves) you want a higher quality sub to complement them, something that will go below 30Hz. Skip Polk subs, they are poorly regarded around here. The Klipsch RW-12d is the "budget king" around these parts when you can get it for around $300 on sale from Newegg.

I would however considering saving a bit more to get to the $500 sub price point. There is a nice jump in quality from the $200-300 budget options and you can get a sub that will more closely match the quality of your other speakers. SVS PB-1000 at $499 shipped would be an awesome option.
post #43343 of 51540
This past weekend a local craigslist post advertised the S10.3 for $60! I was so bummed that I couldn't grab it, I have no use for that sub but what a freaking deal!!

Not surprisingly, it looks like it's already sold....
post #43344 of 51540
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

This past weekend a local craigslist post advertised the S10.3 for $60! I was so bummed that I couldn't grab it, I have no use for that sub but what a freaking deal!!

Not surprisingly, it looks like it's already sold....
I would have jumped on that too. I looked long and hard for one before I got the rw. I just missed out on them clearing them out at $199 and that was a steal. Amazon has 2 left at $399.
post #43345 of 51540
Yeah, it bummed me out. There's part of me that just loves great values that wants to buy every silly cheap speaker deal I see on craigslist, but then I have to weight that against the potential recriminations from the wife and the fact that I really have no more room for extra speakers! I only have a 5.1 setup and live in townhouse with shared walls... here in San Diego there is no insulation and the bass just travels through the walls, with the wife and baby sleeping upstairs there is no potential for extra bass! eek.gif

I have already hooked up most of my friends with good budget setups so I need to find more people to help out so I can satisfy the itch to capitalize on these crazy good deals I find tongue.gif
post #43346 of 51540
So i finally got my carpenter to build me the TV riser and i put the center channel speaker. The frontstage consists of three Veritas 5.2C.
While the tweeter cone in the center channel speaker is dented and they'll send me a new one in MARCH i believe it doesn't sound as the other two fron ones. There's no distortion or anything but it sounds deeper than the other two, which have like ten hours on them already (i installed them last wednesday), the center speaker sounds less bright, don't know if it's my imagination or what, i put on a movie and watch some TV and sounded allright to me, same as multichannel music. But when i listen to each speakers volume to adjust, the center channel like i said sounds deeper with less brightness. Anyway nothing that i can do until march if it's in fact damaged.

The front speakers are separated about 11 feet which is pretty much the distance from the main seating position to the center speaker.

Now i need to upgrade my subwoofer from the 8" Take Sub to the SVS PB-1000 and after that change the rear Take lassic speakers to a better pair. For now i'll leave it like that.

Here's a picture of my Take Classic set before and the V 5.2C now, sorry for the picture quality, took 'em with my cel phone.

G].
post #43347 of 51540
i dont know where you are but i have a mint svs pb 10 nsd, i bought it in november from a guy who barely used it ( he actually had an installer do his whole system) its about 3 1/2 years old but honestly looks new. i paid 175. 2 weeks ago i bought an ed a7s-450 for 270$ off craigslist. the svs is just collecting dust. i would let it go for what i paid, if your local to NY? just putting it out there
post #43348 of 51540
Well the wife wasn't to thrilled with the speaker claiming that they are "too tall" so putting the grills on was my compromise, which i really don't mind.

About the distance to the wall, it's about 10 inches, i'm playing with different positions, i think i'll pull them a little closer together, but not by much.
post #43349 of 51540
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Originally Posted by Mikullla View Post

i dont know where you are but i have a mint svs pb 10 nsd, i bought it in november from a guy who barely used it ( he actually had an installer do his whole system) its about 3 1/2 years old but honestly looks new. i paid 175. 2 weeks ago i bought an ed a7s-450 for 270$ off craigslist. the svs is just collecting dust. i would let it go for what i paid, if your local to NY? just putting it out there

I just PM you.
post #43350 of 51540
Not to mention that Nathan seems to own the RC-70's, which actually has a better bass response than the ESW-M8. The RC-70s are quoted to go down to 34 Hz (although that figure may be a bit optimistic). It's no use pairing them with anemic 8" subs. Or anemic 12" subs such as the Power 12 for that matter biggrin.gif

EDIT: Sorry, waaay too late to the party on this one tongue.gif
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