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post #43411 of 47745
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The benefit would be if the excessive bass from the center speaker (due to physical location) causes the dialogue to become muddy and unintelligible. I plug the ports on my RC-LCR because it's less than a foot from the back wall and I found dialogue was much clearer with the ports plugged.

With ports, it's really a case-by-case thing, you have to try it both ways and see what sounds good to you. I think the "default" should be ports open (since that's the way the speaker was designed to operate) and the port plugs should be viewed as a potential solution should a problem arise.

Out of curiosity have you tried swapping the V5.2C with the dented tweeter with one of the other ones, just to make sure the tonality difference you are hearing is not simply due to the acoustic position of the speaker?

Cool, thanks. For now i'll leave it open, sounds better for me.

I have not tried that, however i will when i get home later.
post #43412 of 47745
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post


Thanks, this is an older photo, I just wanted to dig up something I already had available to show how my RC-LCR looked with the door stoppers angling it up. I don't actually run dual front speakers, that photo was taken when I had a pair of Veritas V2.1's that I hooked up to A/B with the RC-10's.

In my "normal" setup the RC-10's are sitting on the side tables where the V2.1's are in this photo. As you can see the side tables (which BTW I actually built myself and stained to match the rosenut) are a few inches lower than the console, which is why I have the FR/FL speakers sitting on those MoPads to angle them up.

Here's a closeup:


Those door stoppers are a great idea. i'll try that.
post #43413 of 47745
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Originally Posted by Szeppelin75 View Post

Cool, thanks. For now i'll leave it open, sounds better for me.

What else matters?! You have your answer!
post #43414 of 47745
okay so after this person got banned from energy thread ,he decide to make his own thread, now I ask what you guys think about his review of the VERITAS VS RC?

(after having both imho

the veritas 6.3 blows away rc 70s... i was so disappointed in the sound produced from rc 70 s i took all 5 of them back..
the energy forum people think its way better not even close... they should really sell there rc 10 and get some v 6.3
imho.. how can so many be so wrong.. like buffalo following the heard over the cliff....

i had some veritas 6.3 before but they started smoking after i had em for 2 weeks... might have been the denon
avr 3313 ci that cause the problem was very hot..

i had to waite to get my v 6.3 back so i thought i would try the rc 70 on a brand new denon 3313 ci.. wow what disappointment
sound was so dead and the treble was awful.. taj mahal sounded like bees when playing a harmonica...

the v 6.3 is a way way better speaker night and day... just going to add an external amp from emotiva so i have some extra power
to drive em... to give me some of that so called

sonic nirvana

cheers...)

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452203/energy-speakers-rc70-vs-v-6-3
post #43415 of 47745
Did he actually get banned from the thread? I didn't realize. I dunno, I've decided that he's either trolling or getting his "sonic nirvana" from a baggie. I've seen enough reviews and comparisons from respected forum members that I can't put much stock in that "review". Although, based on some of his other posts, it could very easily just be poor setup.
post #43416 of 47745
Jesus christ, isn't this the guy that wanted more POWER?

Looks as if he OWNS the truth.

I haven't listened to either speaker, but you cannot write a review like that. Some people like speaker A better, some like speaker B. I can never go on saying because i like speaker B better then all the ones that like speaker A are wrong. It's all very subjective.

More Power...
post #43417 of 47745
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

okay so after this person got banned from energy thread ,he decide to make his own thread, now I ask what you guys think about his review of the VERITAS VS RC?

(after having both imho

the veritas 6.3 blows away rc 70s... i was so disappointed in the sound produced from rc 70 s i took all 5 of them back..
the energy forum people think its way better not even close... they should really sell there rc 10 and get some v 6.3
imho.. how can so many be so wrong.. like buffalo following the heard over the cliff....

i had some veritas 6.3 before but they started smoking after i had em for 2 weeks... might have been the denon
avr 3313 ci that cause the problem was very hot..

i had to waite to get my v 6.3 back so i thought i would try the rc 70 on a brand new denon 3313 ci.. wow what disappointment
sound was so dead and the treble was awful.. taj mahal sounded like bees when playing a harmonica...

the v 6.3 is a way way better speaker night and day... just going to add an external amp from emotiva so i have some extra power
to drive em... to give me some of that so called

sonic nirvana

cheers...)

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452203/energy-speakers-rc70-vs-v-6-3

Why drag him back in here??? I am not missing him...
post #43418 of 47745
How can you not trust somebody with such profoundly accurate spelling and grammar skills? rolleyes.gif

I love the fact that he claims, "the energy forum people think its way better". Who has EVER posted on this thread that the RC-70 is "way better" than the V6.3?

Of course, given what I've read of his laughably unintelligible posts, it doesn't seem like he has the capacity to make subtle distinctions and understand nuance anyway. Thank the lord he was banned from this thread.
post #43419 of 47745
^^
Agreed!
post #43420 of 47745
Didn't know he was banned. Reading his posts back then i knew he was getting in hot water. I think he's just a troll.
post #43421 of 47745
I had own both setups for a year until recently that I sold my 7.1 RC setup . I cant honestly said that one is better than the other,both have different sound I told him that he like a more bright sound than laid back ,I know both speakers are not perfect and that RC have a laid back warm sound with a little bit of bass emphasis and that veritas have a more brighter sound than RC with a more forward presentation than RC also the veritas have a more controlled bass but I wish they had the same punch as the RC ,the veritas in some recordings but not in all recordings can introduce sibilance that can introduce ear fatigue.RC-70 are more easy for the ears no matter what audio track you put on then and I can keep going with a review of the speakers but I cant said that one is better than the other because both have different sound for different music listening preference.





I hope you guys understand a little bit and sorry for my missing punctuations and my awful grammar lol.
Edited by losservatore - 1/16/13 at 4:59pm
post #43422 of 47745
Yes he got banned from energy thread he told me because of reports from here.
post #43423 of 47745
At least he is happy with an Energy Speaker.
post #43424 of 47745
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Originally Posted by Szeppelin75 View Post

Those door stoppers are a great idea. i'll try that.
I just grabbed some 2 for a buck at value and there black. I already had the little rubber knobs on the bottom of my Lcr so I didn't put anything behind it and its solid! Now unfortunetly I have to re run audyessey at some point and that's a pain with aime old and an Akita running around lol:D
post #43425 of 47745
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

At least he is happy with an Energy Speaker.



I think the veritas suit him better for his music listening preference.
post #43426 of 47745
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post


I hope you guys understand a little bit and sorry for my missing punctuations and my awful grammar lol.

Your description of the nuances between the two models is spot on, and your intelligence shines through the grammer Loss wink.gif
Edited by jasonmichaelh - 1/16/13 at 4:37pm
post #43427 of 47745
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post


I hope you guys understand a little bit and sorry for my missing punctuations and my awful grammar lol.

Your description of the nuances between the two models is spot on, and your intelligence shines through the grammer Loss wink.gif


Thanks jason ; my intentions is not to confused people with my bad grammar, even that it does look confusing and it takes some time to read ,but finally at the end people understand what I really mean to write.
post #43428 of 47745
Thanks everyone for your inputs. I think I might have found my happy place. I did not move the speakers....I plugged up the bottom port, turned off dynamic eq. and crossed over the RC-70's at 60hz. It sounds much better now. I did not rerun audyssey multieq xt yet.....it's kinda hard with my daughter running in and out of the room every 5 mins. I find that dynamic eq was a lot of the problem. When dynamic eq is on, the speakers sound boxy or honking...when off, it goes away. I find I like the way it sounds now. I have a buddy thats coming over shortly to run some tones and find the best crossover point for the RC-70's subs to meet. I'll let you guy know how it goes.
post #43429 of 47745
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Originally Posted by luketo View Post

I did not rerun audyssey multieq xt yet.....it's kinda hard with my daughter running in and out of the room every 5 mins.

I *so* know what you're talking about. Now that my daughter is old enough for me to explain the situation a bit and tell her it's dead important that she be as quiet as possible during the calibration tones... she just can't help herself and always end up asking questions in the middle of a measurement. And the test tones are a bit loud and too diverse to run when the kid is asleep.
post #43430 of 47745
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I *so* know what you're talking about. Now that my daughter is old enough for me to explain the situation a bit and tell her it's dead important that she be as quiet as possible during the calibration tones... she just can't help herself and always end up asking questions in the middle of a measurement. And the test tones are a bit loud and too diverse to run when the kid is asleep.

I live near an airport, audyssey 6 positions can take as long as an hour for me hahah
post #43431 of 47745
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I live near an airport, audyssey 6 positions can take as long as an hour for me hahah

Rofl!
post #43432 of 47745
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I live near an airport, audyssey 6 positions can take as long as an hour for me hahah

I live on a busy street, so I usually wait until 1 or 2 am to do mine smile.gif
post #43433 of 47745
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I *so* know what you're talking about. Now that my daughter is old enough for me to explain the situation a bit and tell her it's dead important that she be as quiet as possible during the calibration tones... she just can't help herself and always end up asking questions in the middle of a measurement. And the test tones are a bit loud and too diverse to run when the kid is asleep.
LMAO....i just tried that....and right after the first test tone goes off she runs out off the room and says "by daddy". SMH.
post #43434 of 47745
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Luketo the tweeter and midrange are housed In a sealed compartment of the tower ,if you get better vocals with plugs on is do to a bass improvement in your room.I found that they sound best at least 2' away from each wall.They get uncontrolable bass when they are placed too close from the walls.
Thats what Im starting to think. I plugged up the bottom one and it sounds much better.
post #43435 of 47745
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Iirc, the RC-70s have two ports in the rear. Have you tried plugging only one of them? You could switch between one and the other to see if one makes more of a difference than the other. if you still cant find your happy place, ive seen where someone has drilled a hole throught the center of the foam port plug to get a partial port plug. I would recommend getting a spare set of plugs before you do that though.
Thanks.
post #43436 of 47745
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Thanks jason ; my intentions is not to confused people with my bad grammar, even that it does look confusing and it takes some time to read ,but finally at the end people understand what I really mean to write.
Hey losservatore don't worry about it. Yes, you do have a bit of an English grammar problem, but no one here corrects you because we know English is your second language and we know that you contribute greatly to this thread with your experience between RC and Veritas!

On another note I got my RC-Rs in today and wow they are bigger and more awesome looking than I thought they would be. I measured what they would look like, but until you get them you don't really know. I had to work late so I didn't hook them up to make sure they work right yet, but they are in perfect condition and look brand new with all the accessories and paper work!
post #43437 of 47745
Saints that's great RC-R finally on your setup cool.gif
post #43438 of 47745
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The benefit would be if the excessive bass from the center speaker (due to physical location) causes the dialogue to become muddy and unintelligible. I plug the ports on my RC-LCR because it's less than a foot from the back wall and I found dialogue was much clearer with the ports plugged.

With ports, it's really a case-by-case thing, you have to try it both ways and see what sounds good to you. I think the "default" should be ports open (since that's the way the speaker was designed to operate) and the port plugs should be viewed as a potential solution should a problem arise.

Out of curiosity have you tried swapping the V5.2C with the dented tweeter with one of the other ones, just to make sure the tonality difference you are hearing is not simply due to the acoustic position of the speaker?

I did swap them eysterday and unfourtunaly the tweeter in the CC speaker is not working right, sounds muddy, deep not as clear and bright as the other two V-5.2-C. Now all i can do is wait for the replacement from WWstereo in :mad:MARCH.
post #43439 of 47745
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Originally Posted by luketo View Post

Thanks everyone for your inputs. I think I might have found my happy place. I did not move the speakers....I plugged up the bottom port, turned off dynamic eq. and crossed over the RC-70's at 60hz. It sounds much better now. I did not rerun audyssey multieq xt yet.....it's kinda hard with my daughter running in and out of the room every 5 mins. I find that dynamic eq was a lot of the problem. When dynamic eq is on, the speakers sound boxy or honking...when off, it goes away. I find I like the way it sounds now. I have a buddy thats coming over shortly to run some tones and find the best crossover point for the RC-70's subs to meet. I'll let you guy know how it goes.

I hear you, i have a 17 month boy that runs and screams around a lot. For my to run audyssey i ahve to wait to be alone in the house.

I don't know how important is to do all 6 positions, i read somewhere that the first/main listening position is the important one to do un Audyssey, oh well...
post #43440 of 47745
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I live near an airport, audyssey 6 positions can take as long as an hour for me hahah

And here we are complaining.
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