Energy Owners Thread - Page 1449

I thought the same thing when I got my VS's !! What a piece of art, huh ? Nothing worse than getting new toys and having to wait to use them !!! I have a RC-LCR in a box, and there it will remain for many months, into year(s), until the time is right to move the 70s into the HT. I saw the box last night when I was doing stuff in the storage room. I think I spoke to it!!

On another note, I visited the other thread about 6.3/70 and left somewhat of a nasty gram. A little out of character, but sometimes you have to chop people down off their pedsetal.

Hey guys...

Not really energy related....but you guys are always helpful, and i use V5.1's and a S8.2 sub in this setup

I am picking up a emotiva UPA-200 this weekend so I was on monoprice looking for RCA splitters so I car run the single pair of preouts on my receiver to both the amp and the sub.

As I was looking, i noticed this comment on the product page of all the splitters: "Note that this should be used only as a splitter. Combining audio signals could result in damage to your audio equipment. The proper way to combine audio signals is through an audio mixer. "

I have been using this splitter to combine the signal from the L and R preouts on the receiver to connect to the single RCA input on my sub.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023603&p_id=6261&seq=1&format=2

Is there any chance I could be "damaging my equipment" by doing this? I just wanted to check and make sure before I get everything hooked up with the newly used amp.

Thanks in advance!

I doubt you'd damage the sub but you're certainly not using it the right way. Unless you told your AVR that you don't have a sub, you should use the sub pre out. The sub pre out will have the LFE channel and the content of all other channels under your crossover frequency.

Since the 8.2 is powered, I don't think you're getting any benefit from the amps if you connect the signal through. I would think you have a sub out on the receiver, I'd use that and use the Emotivas to drive the front two. Just my 2 cents...

What receiver are you using?

You are "crossing the streams." It can't be good for a receiver to connect the left and right output of anything together.

As neutro said, use the subwoofer output on your receiver to the subwoofer. Or does your subwoofer have speaker level inputs (which sub do you have)? You could split the speaker output from the amp and run the left channel to both the left speaker and the sub, and same for the right channel.

Sorry....I should have been more specific......this is my 2.1 music set up. Not my HT.

I have a stereo denon DRA-635r which only has L and R preouts. I was running the speakers from the receiver and using the pre-outs to get the signal to the powered sub. Its been working like that and sound fine.

When I get the amp, I was going to use the dra-635r as the pre-amp, and split the pre-outs to the amp and to the sub. But the sub only has a single RCA input. I am getting the amp because I want a more robust amp that can handle 4 ohm loads. This is the system i use to play around with different speakers so I want the flexibility with the impedance.


Any thoughts?

What sub do you have?

energy S8.2

you checking for speaker level inputs? I could do that instead. Its a bit messier doing it that way and would prefer to use the RCAs. But if using the splitter backwards isnt recommended, using the speaker level inputs on the sub might be my only option.

since you have a stereo receiver with one set of preouts and no dedicated subwoofer output I would just get a pair of Monoprice Y cables. Output 1 left and right to the amp and 1 left at right to the sub.

I think the s8.2 has a crossover dial on the front next to the port. You can set it to 80 or 100hz whichever is best for your needs.

The subwoofer only has 1 mono RCA input though. How do I get the signal from both the L and R preouts to the single RCA mono input on the sub?

I've been looking at it, and the sub has speaker level inputs and outputs (pass through). I'll just run the speaker wires through the sub, then to the speakers. Thats probably the best way to go about it.

If the S8.2 has speaker-level inputs you could use that indeed. Else you should find a small stereo-to-mono mixer. Or, use a sub with stereo inputs and keep the S8.2 for another purpose.

According to this photo the s8.2 has dual RCA inputs.

The connections on the left are all outputs (A single mono RCA out, and a pair of speaker level outs).

The connections on the right are the inputs.

Got it, thanks.

Funny, stumbled upon this tidbit, it's from a brief write-up coverage of the 2000 CES Show in Las Vegas:


the captioned explained (quote):
"Energy's new additions to their Veritas line include (left to right): V2.4 ($3500 per pair), V2.3 ($2500 per pair), V2.2 ($1500 per pair), V2.1 ($1000 per pair). Far right, top to bottom are the V2.0R ($1000 per pair) and V2.0C center-channel ($800 each). All use woofers made of a poly/talc/aluminum combination"

Actually, I stand corrected.....the RCA on the right is labelled "input" and the RCA on the left is labeled "x-over". So it looks like you use the left RCA as an input if you use an external crossover. See this diagram from the manual. Its a little fuzzy but hopefully you can see it.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh209/kgallerie/Energy_S82_zps5d58bb94.jpg



Regardless, I dont think I would want to both of those inputs as a left and right input, correct?

Exactly, it's indeed a second input. Quoting the manual:
However I don't think the two inputs are internally summed as it's the case when subs have stereo inputs. I think you either use the normal input OR the external crossover input (see how EITHER is capitalized).

I'm having an internal debat today as it is the last day of the RC-70 sale at Future Shop.....$799 for the pair. I already have RC-70's on the front and RC-50's on the rear. I have a Paradigm LCR-450 as a center.....bought in 1997 or 1998.......works great....but would like to upgrade it. It is really too bad that Energy never made a LARGE 3-way center that would have the same drivers as the RC-70 (like a Paradigm 690). I had bought a Rosenut RC-LCR at one point but it had some scratches and strange white marks and scuffs on it.......I did not think it sounded better than the LCR-450, but it was not broken in either.

Anyway I was thinking of getting 2 more RC-70's to use as rear speakers......I have the Onkyo 3009 and a Paradigm Servo 15 and a Velodyne DSL5000....the pans across the front channels move very smoothly right now (XT32!!) but I find dialog occationally hard to understand on the LCR-450 and may want to improve my center too. I could still get an RC-LCR right now but the sources are very expensive (should have got one when they were cheaper), I may look at Paradigm and may wait for the new Reference series that should come out in the fall as I think that may be the best sound quality...........

That is correct, it was the standard design for many years on Energy subs.

The two inputs are NOT summed, it's one or the other. One of the inputs is filtered (passes through volume and LPF blocks) whereas the other input is a "direct" unfiltered input for use with a digital receiver that will be supplying volume control and crossover.

@ kgallerie -- my recommendation is to use the speaker level inputs/outputs and place the sub in-line between the amp and the speakers. This is the easiest connection method for an older stereo receiver that doesn't have a mono SW pre-out. If you had a sub with L/R inputs then it wouldn't be an issue but for the S8.2 there is only a mono input option, so the speaker wire (high level) stereo inputs are the way to go.

Great. Thanks batpig and everyone else for their input. Looks like I have some rewiring to do this weekend.....and I get to play with my new amp! OH WHAT FUN!!!!!


Edited by kgallerie - 1/17/13 at 12:33pm

+1

This is definitely the way to go.

The first one is important because it determines the distants of all the speakers and the db coming from the sub ( you want the sub to be +/- 3 dbs anythign higher turn down the sub also if you get max number +/- db's adjust the sub.) But in order to get the best room corrections possible you need to run all 6 (or if you have multi xt 8) positions.

When I run audyssey, after measuring the MLP, I put all the other positions around the MLP in a circle with a radius of a foot or so. It's a preference thing but I prefer doing that instead of measuring every seat. Harmann agrees

I will. Whenever i get the chance.

So, can anyone tell me if Energy is an upgraded product by Klipsch, or is Energy on the same level as Klipsch far as quality goes?

For example, the Klipsch KF-28 versus the Energy CF-70 floorstanding speakers. Overall, which is the better buy?

And for that matter, how does Energy measure up to Polk?

It's really hard to say honestly, it depends on what line you are looking at. Energy was bought out by Klipsch, so it's not like it was a separate "budget" or "upscale" brand.

In general you can get a decent proxy by comparing msrp. For example, the Energy CF/CB "Connoisseur" lineup is approximately equal to the Polk TSi or Monitor lines, whereas the RC line is more like the RTi or LSi lines.

In my opinion, Energy's entry-level stuff is much better than that of other brands (like Polk) but it's hard to make generalizations going forward since we have no idea what will happen now that Audiovox is in charge.

Hi All,

I'm looking at picking up the Energy 5.1 Take Classic for a 1 bdrm apt living room. Going to pair it with Sony STRDN1030 and Mitsubishi WD-73742. (i have a Hitachi 57inch, now, but want to upgrade )

Anyway..question is...Stands. I've been trying to find a good Stand set for the Sats, but everything seems to not fit quit right and requires "tweaking" of kind. (t-bar, diff screws, etc). Mounting isn't really much of an option outside of just putting a nail in the wall and hanging it. Which I'll do if I can't find a Stand that will out of the box.

So...any suggestions? TIA

I would wall mount. Those speakers are so light that a screw will easily hold them and they have a keyhole mount so it's as easy as just hanging them on the screw.

I mounted mine with these

They do also have a keyhole so you can do that as well. The speakers are so small and light I think it might look kind of crazy on a stand just imo

It is true that u don't necessarily have to do it in every seat per say. you want the first one In the man listening position and then each other position 2-3 feet apart from each other there's a diagram showing on the audyssey thread if I find it I'll post it for you guys. Again it's completely optional lord knows my setup isn't perfect . I'm. One of those guys with the rear seat up avaunt the wall with no room behind me