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post #43471 of 51479
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I believe this is already the third week that the $399 price has carried over from the previous week so I wouldn't be surprised for it to roll over again. What's odd too is that they only advertise a $100 savings even though they were priced at $1249 for months before they went down to their current price.

If last year is any indication, the life cycle of the RC-70 pricing is as follows: they introduce it just before Christmas at $500 a pop, then depending on inventory levels, they discount it in order to clear stock. Last year they first tried $475 then got serious and reached $400 in February. Now they already hit $400 less than a month after the new shipment. The price will remain at $400 until they're almost all sold. I'm not sure why the few unsold units are then bumped to the MSRP price of $1249 each. Perhaps the remaining units are all open box / returns, or they are bought back by individual store in order to try to make more profit. Last year the MSRP pricing was applied at the end of spring. You might see deals like a free sub with any pair of Energy towers (that's what I got actually). The sub was the ESW-C8 which of course is useless with the RC-70s but it's better than nothing.

However, if one wants a pair of RC-70s, I never saw a price lower than $400.
post #43472 of 51479
I finally got my V5.2cs from the shipping depot (had to wait for a friend) and I indeed had a defective tweeter on 1 out of 3 speakers. Very annoying but I knew I wouldn't bat 1.000 after reading every ones stories.

Anyway, I'm running two of them in stereo mode to determine if I want these or the RC70s...or none at all!

I noticed right away how the soundstage was larger than the RC line, it fills the room more. The tweeter is brighter and I feel like I hear more detail. Being my first day with them I have yet to give it any real power so this is all just initial impressions.

The RC70s have quite the advantage in bass, understandably but with my horrible room acoustics, I don't know if I can get my sub to even things out for a fair fight. During low volume applications, I definitely prefer the Veritas (and I do a lot of low volume listening) but once I turned up the RCs my decision became a lot harder. The towers sound pretty good at higher volumes and switching back to the Veritas, I felt underwhelmed. I'm going to run these Veritas as long as I can and on Sunday I'll do a proper audition, with some blurays and gaming mixed in. I need to make a decision as I am running out of time on my return window. I fear if I do not like any of these I will have to move up considerably in price range as I have my eyes on Paradigm Studio 20s, which also require a mammoth center speaker (size and price).
post #43473 of 51479
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

I finally got my V5.2cs from the shipping depot (had to wait for a friend) and I indeed had a defective tweeter on 1 out of 3 speakers. Very annoying but I knew I wouldn't bat 1.000 after reading every ones stories.

Anyway, I'm running two of them in stereo mode to determine if I want these or the RC70s...or none at all!

I noticed right away how the soundstage was larger than the RC line, it fills the room more. The tweeter is brighter and I feel like I hear more detail. Being my first day with them I have yet to give it any real power so this is all just initial impressions.

The RC70s have quite the advantage in bass, understandably but with my horrible room acoustics, I don't know if I can get my sub to even things out for a fair fight. During low volume applications, I definitely prefer the Veritas (and I do a lot of low volume listening) but once I turned up the RCs my decision became a lot harder. The towers sound pretty good at higher volumes and switching back to the Veritas, I felt underwhelmed. I'm going to run these Veritas as long as I can and on Sunday I'll do a proper audition, with some blurays and gaming mixed in. I need to make a decision as I am running out of time on my return window. I fear if I do not like any of these I will have to move up considerably in price range as I have my eyes on Paradigm Studio 20s, which also require a mammoth center speaker (size and price).
please keep us (me) posted. thanks.
post #43474 of 51479
A pair of veritas v6.3 in rosenut on ebay make an offer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-Tower-Speakers-gloss-rosenut-V6-3-pair-/111001133694?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item19d82ee27e

Edited by losservatore - 1/17/13 at 7:34pm
post #43475 of 51479
Wow, those look beautiful. What do you think they'll go for?
post #43476 of 51479
do the new-generation Veritas cabinets come with that gloss wood finish?
post #43477 of 51479
Yes, that's what the photo is of. All the new Klipsch designed "Veritas" models come in either black or rosewood, both of which are a high gloss laquered "piano" finish.
post #43478 of 51479
Everytime I see those 6.3s in rosewood gloss I fall in love with them! I will have my eye on those after I lay my hardwood floor in 2 months...
post #43479 of 51479
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

I finally got my V5.2cs from the shipping depot (had to wait for a friend) and I indeed had a defective tweeter on 1 out of 3 speakers. Very annoying but I knew I wouldn't bat 1.000 after reading every ones stories.

Anyway, I'm running two of them in stereo mode to determine if I want these or the RC70s...or none at all!

I noticed right away how the soundstage was larger than the RC line, it fills the room more. The tweeter is brighter and I feel like I hear more detail. Being my first day with them I have yet to give it any real power so this is all just initial impressions.

The RC70s have quite the advantage in bass, understandably but with my horrible room acoustics, I don't know if I can get my sub to even things out for a fair fight. During low volume applications, I definitely prefer the Veritas (and I do a lot of low volume listening) but once I turned up the RCs my decision became a lot harder. The towers sound pretty good at higher volumes and switching back to the Veritas, I felt underwhelmed. I'm going to run these Veritas as long as I can and on Sunday I'll do a proper audition, with some blurays and gaming mixed in. I need to make a decision as I am running out of time on my return window. I fear if I do not like any of these I will have to move up considerably in price range as I have my eyes on Paradigm Studio 20s, which also require a mammoth center speaker (size and price).

I like my Veritas, well the two of them that have their tweeters working. They probably have 30 hours on them and are finally breaking in. They sound less bright and have less sibilance than at the beginning. I never listen louder than -15 or -20 soto me they are allright.
post #43480 of 51479
Man those v6.3s are beautiful eek.gif
post #43481 of 51479
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

Man those v6.3s are beautiful eek.gif
Agreed! Can't afford the V6.3s, but the rosenut V5.2C's sure are tempting.

The $399 price did carry over again on the RC70s @ Future Shop. Good until at least the 24th and who knows how much longer - or until stock runs out...
post #43482 of 51479
If you are using any of the Glossy Veritas speakers in an av system you can expect massive reflections from the shine on the speakers........
post #43483 of 51479
I haven't noticed any reflections. The only likely candidate would be the center channel depending on placement....mine is slightly behind the television so it doesn't reflect any of the light produced. The front wides are veritas 5.2c as well and, as long as they're toed-in properly to the MLP, there wouldn't be any reflections unless there is a light source (or reflective surface) behind you.



In this case the sunlight was, indeed, behind me when I took the pic so there is some reflection. But in an otherwise dark room I don't see the speakers at all while watching a movie.


(sry for image quality....it's one of those iphone panorama shots biggrin.gif )
post #43484 of 51479
Now I just need to get the heights up...decided against another pair of v5.2s for heights. Just too big & heavy to mount angled down toward the MLP.
post #43485 of 51479
Yes the veritas v6.3 are a beautiful looking speakers ,but you have to take really good care of then ,they are dust and finger print magnet also not a kid friendly speaker, but they do look beautiful , every single person that visit me get very impressive with their finish and style.
post #43486 of 51479
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

Everytime I see those 6.3s in rosewood gloss I fall in love with them! I will have my eye on those after I lay my hardwood floor in 2 months...

Hardwood floors and those speakers could sound extremely busy and sharp without good room treatments. For myself, I would totally avoid that combination at semi loud to loud listening levels. Your RC-70s will most likely be much more listenable and enjoyable than the 6.3s without room treatments, but every room can be different. I love the Rosewood finish as well.
post #43487 of 51479
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

I finally got my V5.2cs from the shipping depot (had to wait for a friend) and I indeed had a defective tweeter on 1 out of 3 speakers. Very annoying but I knew I wouldn't bat 1.000 after reading every ones stories.

Anyway, I'm running two of them in stereo mode to determine if I want these or the RC70s...or none at all!

I noticed right away how the soundstage was larger than the RC line, it fills the room more. The tweeter is brighter and I feel like I hear more detail. Being my first day with them I have yet to give it any real power so this is all just initial impressions.

The RC70s have quite the advantage in bass, understandably but with my horrible room acoustics, I don't know if I can get my sub to even things out for a fair fight. During low volume applications, I definitely prefer the Veritas (and I do a lot of low volume listening) but once I turned up the RCs my decision became a lot harder. The towers sound pretty good at higher volumes and switching back to the Veritas, I felt underwhelmed. I'm going to run these Veritas as long as I can and on Sunday I'll do a proper audition, with some blurays and gaming mixed in. I need to make a decision as I am running out of time on my return window. I fear if I do not like any of these I will have to move up considerably in price range as I have my eyes on Paradigm Studio 20s, which also require a mammoth center speaker (size and price).

Well, turns out I lost my job today so most likely the RC70s are going back. I'm still going to do the audition as much as I can (to my own detriment) but its unlikely I'll keep them. The price difference is quite large.
post #43488 of 51479
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

Well, turns out I lost my job today so most likely the RC70s are going back. I'm still going to do the audition as much as I can (to my own detriment) but its unlikely I'll keep them. The price difference is quite large.

Sorry to hear that man. Keep your head up dude smile.gif
post #43489 of 51479
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

Well, turns out I lost my job today so most likely the RC70s are going back. I'm still going to do the audition as much as I can (to my own detriment) but its unlikely I'll keep them. The price difference is quite large.

Sorry to hear that!
post #43490 of 51479
Is anyone familiar with the v-minis and their mounting bracket? I wanted to hang these from the ceiling using a mount, but I don't think it is possible as the speaker has no threaded mounting slot.
post #43491 of 51479
As it happens I just hung a pair yesterday. One of the screws on the backplate comes out and that acts as the mounting threads for the screw in the mounting bracket.

I'm not at home right now, so I can't tell you the size of the threads, but I can check later if you'd like.

One thing that surprised me was how close the bracket sat the speaker to the wall, especially for a rear-ported model.
post #43492 of 51479
in the case of something like the V-mini, the rear port being close to the boundary isn't much of an issue because it barely has any bass response at all.

I don't think the manufacturer supplied mounts are appropriate for ceiling mounting though because of this fact. I don't think you have much leeway for lateral adjustment.
post #43493 of 51479
I agree, I don't see any way you could angle these down significantly, or mount them near a corner, with the supplied hardware.
post #43494 of 51479
Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post



How do the V5.2s compare to the V2.1s? I'm guessing the latter is a higher quality speaker.
post #43495 of 51479
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Originally Posted by DustinLH00 View Post

Is anyone familiar with the v-minis and their mounting bracket? I wanted to hang these from the ceiling using a mount, but I don't think it is possible as the speaker has no threaded mounting slot.

I just logged on to ask this exact question!
post #43496 of 51479
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Originally Posted by thebard View Post

I agree, I don't see any way you could angle these down significantly, or mount them near a corner, with the supplied hardware.

These are the mounts that I am using for my ceiling. I need to mount 4 as I am doing 7.1:
http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Speaker-Ceiling-Pre-Wired-Theater/dp/B001E46A7I/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=29C4U1PPNGWHS&coliid=IXQQ9XUP6MNIK

I checked out the CB-5s in person and they are just too big to hang 4 of them from my 8' ceiling. I was originally going to do Take satellites, but I know the V-Minis have better range, but if I cannot hang them from the ceiling with these mounts then I need another plan. Any other suggestions?
post #43497 of 51479
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Originally Posted by wryan View Post

I just logged on to ask this exact question!

Lol, glad I am not alone. It doesn't sound like it is going to work unfortunately. What is your plan B?
post #43498 of 51479
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Originally Posted by DustinLH00 View Post

Lol, glad I am not alone. It doesn't sound like it is going to work unfortunately. What is your plan B?

I'm thinking my plan B is to use the 20lbs-rated OmniMount ceiling mounts - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006LHDV/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00 - and attach a piece of wood to the back of the speaker via two of the existing holes, then screwing the metal plate that comes with the kit to that piece of wood.

I have spent a couple of hours searching the forums for an answer to this, but haven't come up with anything good. There is one guy on this thread who posted in May of last year about ceiling mounting a couple of V-Minis, so I sent him a PM.
post #43499 of 51479
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Originally Posted by wryan View Post

I'm thinking my plan B is to use the 20lbs-rated OmniMount ceiling mounts - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006LHDV/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00 - and attach a piece of wood to the back of the speaker via two of the existing holes, then screwing the metal plate that comes with the kit to that piece of wood.

I have spent a couple of hours searching the forums for an answer to this, but haven't come up with anything good. There is one guy on this thread who posted in May of last year about ceiling mounting a couple of V-Minis, so I sent him a PM.

It may be easier than that... first check the thread size against the v-mini when you get the omnimount, it might match. Even if it doesn't, one reviewer at amazon used an adapter:
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The product is very good, however be sure to check the thread size on the back of your speakers. Many speakers that you will find for your home will have a 1/4" - 20 mounting thread in the back of the speaker. The Omni-mount 20 lbs mounts (both wall and ceiling type) will have 3/8" - 16 threads. Personally, I used the 20 lbs mounts and added a 3/8" - 16 female to 1/4" - 20 male thread adapter (also called a standoff sometimes) in order to mount my speakers. If you are mounting wood speakers with no pre-installed threaded insert for mounting, than the thread size doesn't matter since it comes with the required parts for screwing into the back of the wood frame speaker.
post #43500 of 51479
Does anyone have the Energy Power Bar Elite? I'm looking for a sound bar and can't decide. I heard the Power Bar Elite today in the store and it sounded great. I wish I could hear the JBL Cinema SB400 (brand new), and the Klipsch Icon SB1 (which I understand is a lower lever Energy?).

Any thoughts?
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