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This made me lol.
And, oddly enough...we still sometimes think it's 'cold' here. wink.gif
post #43562 of 51451
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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

Any Energy Veritas Owners here?

I have the 2004 Veritas
Mains: Energy Veritas 2.3i
Center: Energy Veritas 2.0ci
Side and rears: 4x Energy Veritas 2.0Ri

I was looking for a new receiver. Does anyone use a Marantz 7005 or 7007? Or Yamaha?

Hi there!
Yes, there are a few of us on here that have the older veritas line...or have had them at one point or another.
Hank is one of the regulars on here that has a pair of 1.8's, and batpig is another regular who used to have a pair of 1.1's (I think that was the model).
I have a pair of 2.2i's, but am a recently-new owner, so can't offer too much as far as knowledge of receivers, amps, etc -- Hank has some experience in this area though.
I know batpig uses a Denon to drive his gear -- not sure which model. I've pretty much followed suit and use a 4311.
From what batpig mentioned, I believe Denon & Marantz basically share internal components, as they're owned by the same parent company.
Check in with him to ensure this though. If that is indeed the case, you may have some nice options. I was really taken with how attractive the minimalist look of the Marantz units are. It would seem I might have gotten more for my money with the Denon unit though...though I can't say for sure.

To be sure though, there's some knowledgable guys on here to help you along.
Be careful though -- they love spending your money. wink.gifwink.gif

BTW -- that's a killer Veritas setup -- I'm a bit jealous! wink.gif
How do you like the 2.0Ri's? I've almost thought about snagging a pair before, given my room layout.
Also, is the 2.0ci a perfect match to everything else in your setup? I thought I recalled reading that some people felt the 2.0ci wasn't quite as stellar as the main 2.0x series. (I may be wrong in this though)
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I have read threads regarding the center (2.0ci) not being as good or not matching. I disagree. I have tested many centers in a previous setup. I like the sounds of the center, produces very nice voices. Also, the speaker blends in fine.
The 2.0Ri's are good as well. Especially for the money that you find them sometimes these days.

BTW. I am using currently a Yamaha to drive the setup. I liked the sound of the Yamaha. I was going to get a new one. However, the newer ones are bigger in size (depth). This would cause an issue for me with the space constraints in my cabinet.
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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

I have read threads regarding the center (2.0ci) not being as good or not matching. I disagree. I have tested many centers in a previous setup. I like the sounds of the center, produces very nice voices. Also, the speaker blends in fine.
The 2.0Ri's are good as well. Especially for the money that you find them sometimes these days.

BTW. I am using currently a Yamaha to drive the setup. I liked the sound of the Yamaha. I was going to get a new one. However, the newer ones are bigger in size (depth). This would cause an issue for me with the space constraints in my cabinet.

I'm a Yamaha fan also. I own 3 of their receivers. I was running my 2.2i's and 2.0's with a RXA-3000. Amazing sound. A few weeks ago, I moved some stuff around and hooked up the 2.2's to my oppo bdp93 with a emotiva amp in between. No receiver in the chain. My jaw dropped. I'm guessing the dacs in the oppo are much better than the dacs in the yammy. The 2.2's will stay hooked up to the oppo. I use the 2.0ri's as surrounds in a mostly rc setup (11.2). One other thing. As good as the Yamaha is, if you can get a denon or marantz with audissey xt32, you will have better room correction and much better subwoofer equalization.
post #43566 of 51451
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

This made me lol.
And, oddly enough...we still sometimes think it's 'cold' here. wink.gif

Ha! Yes indeed. We gots it good. I think it was in the low 80's this last weekend.
post #43567 of 51451
Energy RC 70 + RC 50 + LCR + Velodyne on ebay sale for 2600$. They mention everything is brand new and free shipping smile.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-Home-Theater-Package-Energy-RC-70-RC-50-RC-LCR-and-Velodyne-Optimum-8-/140908907614?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item20ced34c5e
post #43568 of 51451
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Originally Posted by SandyMan007 View Post

Energy RC 70 + RC 50 + LCR + Velodyne on ebay sale for 2600$. They mention everything is brand new and free shipping smile.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-Home-Theater-Package-Energy-RC-70-RC-50-RC-LCR-and-Velodyne-Optimum-8-/140908907614?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item20ced34c5e

LOL at the sub.....response down to 28 hz when the rc-70's can do 31hz.

My S8.2 is rated down to 29hz.......but probably not at the same volume.
Edited by kgallerie - 1/22/13 at 12:09pm
post #43569 of 51451
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

LOL at the sub.....response down to 28 hz when the rc-70's can do 31hz.

My S8.2 is rated down to 29hz.......but probably not at the same volume.

Strange mix - 8 inch sub with 1200 watts RMS, 16-240 Hz, but 26-120 Hz +/- 3db. Built in sub equalization w/ mike.

If you figure the 70's at about 1000 per pair, the 50's at 600 per pair, the RC-LCR at 400, the sub comes in around 600. I'd rather a good Hsu or another ID sub. (My own opinion of their pricing, nothing to do with reality).
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Out of curiosity, do you think my Onkyo 797 would power the 2.2's sufficiently? I ask only because I've been spending so much time in my 'office' working, that it'd be great to be able to listen to them more. But I do LOVE their sound on the 4311.

I think that the 797 will be plenty powerful. The fact that it doesn't have modern features like HDMI and room correction says nothing about its amp quality; in fact, in an older unit like that you would expect the amp quality to be much better than a typical mid-level model nowadays. I believe that model was even THX certified, and googling the specs it looks like it was rated at 100W/ch and weighs 35lbs. I think it will have plenty of grunt to drive the 2.2's, especially in an office where presumably you won't be cranking it to insane volume levels.

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LASTLY...a quick Audyssey question -- if I recalibrate, does the receiver automatically include 'B' speakers in the calibration process (since the 2.2's are set on dedicated 2ch duty)?

No, there is no way to have a separate calibration for "B" speakers. You can configure the "B" speakers as dedicated 2ch specialists (as you know) but they will not be included as part of the main Audyssey calibration unless you actually want them active as your primary front speakers in multich modes as well. So in a way this supports the plan to move them into the office unless you want to do your primary "critical" 2ch listening in the main room.
post #43571 of 51451
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

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Originally Posted by SandyMan007 View Post

Energy RC 70 + RC 50 + LCR + Velodyne on ebay sale for 2600$. They mention everything is brand new and free shipping smile.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-Home-Theater-Package-Energy-RC-70-RC-50-RC-LCR-and-Velodyne-Optimum-8-/140908907614?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item20ced34c5e

LOL at the sub.....response down to 28 hz when the rc-70's can do 31hz.

My S8.2 is rated down to 29hz.......but probably not at the same volume.


I dont think that the rc-70 truly go down to 31hz .I will left those 31hz to a subwoofer.
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How do you guys with RC-70's find the soundstage and imaging? I'm a little disappointed as it's a much smaller soundstage than I had hoped for. Maybe my speakers need more break in, or maybe my expectations for a speaker at this price point are too high. I'm very impressed by the dynamics.. the reach in to the lows is fantastic, I was just looking for something a little more special.

Anyone else find this?
post #43573 of 51451
Energy Take Classic 5.1 named one of the five best living room speaker sets:

http://lifehacker.com/5977261/five-best-living-room-speaker-sets
post #43574 of 51451
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Originally Posted by spincycle79 View Post

How do you guys with RC-70's find the soundstage and imaging? I'm a little disappointed as it's a much smaller soundstage than I had hoped for. Maybe my speakers need more break in, or maybe my expectations for a speaker at this price point are too high. I'm very impressed by the dynamics.. the reach in to the lows is fantastic, I was just looking for something a little more special.

Anyone else find this?

I've been impressed with the RC70's as far as soundstage and imaging. Have you tried running Audyssey/YPAO or whatever your receiver has?

I have messed with switching between 7.2 and 2.2 and I had to get up and check to see if the center speaker was on or not. What else do you have experience with that you are disappointed in the speakers?
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I do
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Originally Posted by spincycle79 View Post

How do you guys with RC-70's find the soundstage and imaging? I'm a little disappointed as it's a much smaller soundstage than I had hoped for. Maybe my speakers need more break in, or maybe my expectations for a speaker at this price point are too high. I'm very impressed by the dynamics.. the reach in to the lows is fantastic, I was just looking for something a little more special.

Anyone else find this?

I don't have the RC-70's, or any Energy speaker except for my sub lol. I will say with my towers, towing them in directly towards my seating position made a HUGE difference.
post #43576 of 51451
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Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

I'm a Yamaha fan also. I own 3 of their receivers. I was running my 2.2i's and 2.0's with a RXA-3000. Amazing sound. A few weeks ago, I moved some stuff around and hooked up the 2.2's to my oppo bdp93 with a emotiva amp in between. No receiver in the chain. My jaw dropped. I'm guessing the dacs in the oppo are much better than the dacs in the yammy. The 2.2's will stay hooked up to the oppo. I use the 2.0ri's as surrounds in a mostly rc setup (11.2). One other thing. As good as the Yamaha is, if you can get a denon or marantz with audissey xt32, you will have better room correction and much better subwoofer equalization.

How about the power? My current receiver is a 120W per channel. The Marantz is 125W. Don't know how much either receiver is putting out. Should the Marantz be sufficient?
post #43577 of 51451
Ordered the V-5.2c from newegg for 179.99. It arrives and I notice it only has one port in the rear with one foam plug also. Is this speaker defective? How much does this affect sound quality if any? Is it worth returning if so?
post #43578 of 51451
That is normal, don't worry smile.gif I doubt a "defect" could occur where they forget to put one of the ports in the cabinet! eek.gif

They changed the design at some point from a dual-port to a single port.
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Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

I'm a Yamaha fan also. I own 3 of their receivers. I was running my 2.2i's and 2.0's with a RXA-3000. Amazing sound. A few weeks ago, I moved some stuff around and hooked up the 2.2's to my oppo bdp93 with a emotiva amp in between. No receiver in the chain. My jaw dropped. I'm guessing the dacs in the oppo are much better than the dacs in the yammy. The 2.2's will stay hooked up to the oppo. I use the 2.0ri's as surrounds in a mostly rc setup (11.2). One other thing. As good as the Yamaha is, if you can get a denon or marantz with audissey xt32, you will have better room correction and much better subwoofer equalization.

How about the power? My current receiver is a 120W per channel. The Marantz is 125W. Don't know how much either receiver is putting out. Should the Marantz be sufficient?

While those Marantz's are very nice I would STRONGLY recommend (as batt50 noted) that you get a receiver with MultEQ XT32. Both those Marantz models "only" have MultEQ XT. Those speakers are so nice that they deserve the best.

Those Marantz are also just rebadged Denons, the 7xxx Marantz is the same as the Denon 33xx on the inside. I have heard the Marantz 7005 and the Denon 4311 and Onkyo 3008 back-to-back with the same system, and the XT32 definitely makes a difference. If you can find a Denon 4311 floating around on closeout pricing I would do it, check at local Best Buys and/or call around to authorized internet dealers.
post #43580 of 51451
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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

How about the power? My current receiver is a 120W per channel. The Marantz is 125W. Don't know how much either receiver is putting out. Should the Marantz be sufficient?

it should be more than enough. if you feel the need, you can add a 3 channel amp to power the fronts. unless you have a huge room, i doubt you'll need the amp. I'm using amps cause the rxa-3000 drops to about 62 watts driving 7 channels and im driving 11 channels. plus i already had the amp from my previous setup.
post #43581 of 51451
Hi everyone,
I just received my third V-5.2 from wwstereo, and as I was inspecting it, I noticed that the rubber surround on the left woofer is off color kind of like it was exposed to too much sun, or maybe not rubbed clean before before placement? Has anyone come across this with a speaker before or know how this could affect the speaker long term. I I am ready to call wwstereo and complain just on aesthetics alone since I don't' plan on using the grill. I want to show off these beautiful speakers, but that greyish color really stands out next to its neighboring woofer frown.gif





I have it hooked up at the moment but I cant compare it directly to the other two 5.2s since they area already broken in. So far I have not heard any worrisome sounds, so that is good
post #43582 of 51451
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

While those Marantz's are very nice I would STRONGLY recommend (as batt50 noted) that you get a receiver with MultEQ XT32. Both those Marantz models "only" have MultEQ XT. Those speakers are so nice that they deserve the best.

Those Marantz are also just rebadged Denons, the 7xxx Marantz is the same as the Denon 33xx on the inside. I have heard the Marantz 7005 and the Denon 4311 and Onkyo 3008 back-to-back with the same system, and the XT32 definitely makes a difference. If you can find a Denon 4311 floating around on closeout pricing I would do it, check at local Best Buys and/or call around to authorized internet dealers.

Yes, I saw some passionate online discussions of the Marantz being a Denon.Kind of confusing that they don't put the latest features into the Marantz, given that they charge more for the Marantz... I guess they push customers towards the separates.

How does the Denon sound these days. They used to have the reputation of being not as "bright" as others. Is this still the case?
post #43583 of 51451
What sub would u recommend running with 3 energy veritas v5.2's in a 3.1 set up!!! I have a velodyne vx-11 now but everyone says its not that good frown.gif
post #43584 of 51451
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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

Yes, I saw some passionate online discussions of the Marantz being a Denon.Kind of confusing that they don't put the latest features into the Marantz, given that they charge more for the Marantz... I guess they push customers towards the separates.

How does the Denon sound these days. They used to have the reputation of being not as "bright" as others. Is this still the case?

If you have a best buy store with a magnolia section nearby, you can probably take a listen. They usually have them setup in the listening rooms with a few different speakers.
post #43585 of 51451
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Originally Posted by benca1 View Post

What sub would u recommend running with 3 energy veritas v5.2's in a 3.1 set up!!! I have a velodyne vx-11 now but everyone says its not that good frown.gif

Do you have a hard budget or flexible? And of course, what's the room size and will you have space for 2 subs?
post #43586 of 51451
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Originally Posted by benca1 View Post

What sub would u recommend running with 3 energy veritas v5.2's in a 3.1 set up!!! I have a velodyne vx-11 now but everyone says its not that good frown.gif

It depends on how much you want to spend and the size of the space that you're using your system in. Your sub is an entry level sub, so it has some limitations, its frequency range is 33-140Hz and power is 100 watts RMS. The 5.2's are rated down to 48 Hz, so you may be better off with a sub that goes lower and is more powerful, capable of supporting the 5.2's better.

Once you decide what you want to spend, there are several choices at different price ranges and for different types of listening - % music listening, % home theater, etc.
post #43587 of 51451
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Originally Posted by benca1 View Post

What sub would u recommend running with 3 energy veritas v5.2's in a 3.1 set up!!! I have a velodyne vx-11 now but everyone says its not that good frown.gif

It's not nearly as good as your new Veritas. smile.gif

Did you ever say how big your room is? Sub performance is impacted by room size.
post #43588 of 51451
Room is about 20 ft wide by 17 ft !! Open in back to kitchen with all hardwood!! I have a Yamaha 473 receiver right now so don't have 2 sub ports !! Would say probably 300-500.00 and prefer a coupon code or deal if u have any smile.gif

Energy make a good one?
post #43589 of 51451
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

It's not nearly as good as your new Veritas. smile.gif

Did you ever say how big your room is? Sub performance is impacted by room size.

The veritas replaced 2 klipsch gallery g-12's and g-16 center they sucked big time!! And cost me just as much
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Originally Posted by benca1 View Post

Room is about 20 ft wide by 17 ft !! Open in back to kitchen with all hardwood!! I have a Yamaha 473 receiver right now so don't have 2 sub ports !! Would say probably 300-500.00 and prefer a coupon code or deal if u have any smile.gif

Energy make a good one?

The new energy subs are not going to fill that room at all. In that budget, the only thing that comes to mind is the outlaw sub (plus) when it's on sale. My advice is save up more money and get something like this http://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/power-x/products/xs15. You have a sub, so you can use that for now until you save up more $. You can also check the used market (eBay, Craigslist, audiogon, avs classifieds). With that size room I'm thinking at least 1 15" or 2 12" subs.
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