Energy Owners Thread - Page 1459

Does anyone have experience with : http://www.accessories4less.com ?
It seems they shorten the warranty to 1 year?

The warranty is shorter because they are refurbs, not new. A 1 year warranty on a refurb is actually pretty good, and they are an authorized dealer for their refurb products.

I've never heard anything bad about them, although I haven't ordered from them personally.

i have RC30 fronts, RC10 surrounds, RCLCR and a capable 8" Mirage sub.. seeing 5xV-Mini setup at $400 on eBay (from wwstereo), i am thinking on grabbing, for future 5.1 to 9.1 expansion.

but found pretty average to bad reviews on vanns.com. are they really so mediocre?
also, being on brighter side, at least compared to RC series, would that be an issue using in my setup.

appreciate early inputs, so i can grab these.. thx in advance.

So i went and grabbed those CR-10 surrounds today.

Got em up and running and did the YPAO test and it is setting them as small, should I change that to large or leave it as it sets them?

Do they look large to you?

If you have a subwoofer then ALL your speakers are "small". All it means is, "yes, use bass management".

Just replaced my front L/R from the Take Classics to CB-20s...wow! Big difference in quality on movies and CDs, I shouldn't have waited that long. Now I just need to replace my center (Take Classic) with a V-Mini-c and I am good to go. Well, until I get sick of the sub and surrounds...and the AVR...ah, who am I kidding, I will never be done upgrading.

i did not say bright = bad, i just asked if V-Minis being brighter than RC setup, would that be an issue or not..

Welcome in the club

You know the center matching the CB-20 is the CC-10 right? It will blend perfectly. Some find it too big but if you can make it fit in both your HT setup and your budget, it sure would be a very nice front stage. Not saying the V-Mini center isn't good, on the contrary, but the CC-10 will match the CB-20 tonally and offer better bass.

As for the sub and the rest, well... just tell us when you're ready

I purchased my refurb Denon receiver from them with no problems, and fast, free shipping. I was wary but did a bunch of research on here and even the BBB. The only thing is, make sure you read their return policy. Not exactly generous. Be sure what you are getting is what you want.

How would u compare these veritas v5.2's 3 of them in a 3.1 vs speakercraft aim cinema 3's with a aim lcr 3 center in a 3.1 setup!!
Edited by benca1 - 1/25/13 at 8:40pm

And does anyone know where to get some v6.2's I would love 2 of them in black

Yeah, I had mixed feelings with the RVSS's...though I liked them enough to where I would have kept both pairs -- but they didn't come with the mounting apparatus, and I could not locate anything. So, I sold them off.
For surround duty, bipoles do seem to be my best bet. I do have a wall on each side, like you guessed.

A Veritas question: the 2.x series (not 'i') -- can a driver freeze at any time...or if they were going to freeze, would it have likely happened by now? A 2.0c is on sale for a meager $149...which I'm assuming is pretty low? My AC-300 was almost that much.

I'm contemplating a number of things...
1) Nothing. (Life is pretty darn good...why spend more money!?)
2) Maximize what I have, and purchase-to-fill (either now or later).

Currently the office / secondary room is a 5.0 channel setup, with:
5.1e L/R, RVS-1 Center, 2.1e surrounds. No sub.

I am considering swapping around speakers to [potentially] arrange the following

Main room:
v2.2i L/R, v2.0c center (if purchased), C-8 surrounds. s12.3 sub.

Secondary Room:
APS 5+2 L/R, AC-300 center, C-6 surrounds. Four 8" subs via APS 5+2.

The main benefits to the above would be Audyssey-calibrated 2.1ch music from the 2.2i / s12.3 setup in the main room, and "pretty-darn-good-enough" sub-woofer output from the APS 5+2's built-in's (esp. in a smaller room).

I was considering mixing the C series & Audissey speakers with the 'e' series speakers, but when I had the C-8's as fronts and 5.1e's as rears in my old apartment, I could notice that they weren't timbre matched & it was slightly off-putting when pan-effects were occurring.
I think the C-8's are pretty overkill for surrounds, but it would put some beautiful speakers to use, since no one seems to want to pay what they're worth. That would get the C-8's out of the garage, but then put the entire 'current' office setup on the sidelines and / or craigslist.

Thoughts?
What would be a better upgrade path (if any): 2.0Ri's, and then a veritas center...or the center, and then the surrounds? I could even possibly run a phantom center with the 2.2i's, if the 2.0c isn't a good / needed buy?
Or, I could just leave well-enough-alone...and not move anything!

EDIT: The guy I bought the 2.2i's from is selling his 2.0Ri's for $300 -- better deal to jump on than the $149 2.0c (non-'i')? I'll admit...I've developed Veritas fever, since having the 2.2i's...!
Edited by johnb4467 - 1/26/13 at 3:23pm

Sound Sellers has some listed on Amazon for $450.

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Veritas-Floorstanding-2-5-Way-Speaker/dp/B005E5CNO2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359180126&sr=1-2&keywords=veritas+6.2

Got those speakers for my father (C-C100 and C-100 pair) and my parents love them! NOW they can tell their TV sound was crappy. My dad said listening to the TV now after hearing the speakers (we did an A and B test during a song playing on Pandora), he feels like he has been "listening to the material through a paper towel roll" and now it is so clear!

He is using my old Yamaha receiver until he gets a new one. Now the multi-zone might not be as high priority, as he is looking for something cheaper. I had him looking at the Pioneer VSX-1022 at $230 on newegg, or the HK posted here yesterday.

Now you just need to convince him to get a sub

The only thing i would caution on the HK is that it doesnt have standby passthrough. So you cant set it to run the cable signal through it when its turned off.

based on the first comment I highly doubt standby passthru will matter since the dad thought his TV speakers sound like "listening to the material through a paper towel roll"

Hahaha

Btw, kgallerie, what do you mean by the cable signal won't go through when it's off?

Yes, indeed I do. He loves my Outlaw LFM-2, but they're obviously discontinued. Granted, subs are lower on his priority list, but I'll get him to get 1 one of these days.

I see some deal on 1913 :

http://slickdeals.net/f/5822090-Denon-AVR-1913-7-1-Channel-Networked-Audio-Receiver-at-Fry-s-for-349-99-in-store-pickup-only

Many modern receivers allow you to pass through an HDMI input while the unit is in standby mode. The most common application of this is for people who want to watch cable TV occasionally without firing up the receiver and surround sound.

That made me LOL. I heard a similar comment once: "That's like trying to get good sound in a public washroom" LOL

Yup...exactly what batpig said. Its not the end of the world without it. If you want to watch tv without surround sound, you will hae to run the hdmi to the tv and a separate cable (digital coaxial or optical) to the receiver.

Does any know how the older EXL s10 sub compares to the ESW-C10? The specs seem similar but the EXL s10 weighs 45lbs compared to the ESW-C10 at 28lbs.

Thanks

Specs really aren't that similar. The old S10 is physically larger, weighs 45lbs (vs 28), and is spec'd to 25hz as the -3db point compared to an undefined 32hz low end sec for the C10. I would bet anything that the S10 will beat the pants off the C10 in overall output and extension. The newer C10 with its ribbed elliptical surround tech may be a bit cleaner (lower distortion) but otherwise the S10 should be superior.

Would my EXL S10 be closer to the output of the V-SW10?

I can't say for sure whether it's closer to the C10 or the V10 but there is no doubt that the V10 is much better. The V10 has higher quality build and drivers and a much more powerful amp. It may not dig much deeper, and the S10 may actually come fairly close in overall output, but the V10 will likely do so with much lower distortion levels (e.g. cleaner / tighter).

I have the older exl s10 and the s10.3 subwoofers.

the s10.3 is definitely the better subwoofer. The exl s10 has a 100w RMS/400w peak amp and doesn't play quite as low as the s10.3. I don't think it would be as tight as the ESW-V10 either.

Good sub though, just not on the level of the s10.3 or ESW-V10. Nice bass output for a smaller room.

The ESW-C10 is only spec'd to go down the 32hz. 100w RMS, 400w peak
The exl-s10 is spec'd down to 25hz. 100w RMS, 400w peak.
The s10.3 is spec'd to 21hz 200w RMS, 800w peak
The V10 is spec'd to 23hz and has the fabulous glossy finish. 300w RMS, 1200w peak.

My RC 70's are about 6 inches from a back wall. If I plug one or both of the ports, is there any chance of damaging the drivers at levels of -10 or 0? How much harder will this be on my 100 watt Onkyo 609 to drive them? Thanks.

Hey guys,

I currently own a Denon 2311 with 2 RC-70 and a RC-LCR. I'm searching for RC-10 or RC-minis for a few months, with no sucess (Quebec, Canada )

I'm thinking of buying 4 CB-10 for side surrounds and rear surrounds. Do you think it will be ok ? Also, do you think CB-10 can be good as height speakers with those I currently own ?

Lastly, any good mounting kits for those CB-10 ?

Thanks !