Energy Owners Thread - Page 1468

Do what batpig says! Quick!
Seriously it's hard getting good budget subs in Canada... Maybe a BIC F12 bought on Amazon.com and shipped to a Kinek point? But the used market is the best bet and $150 for a PB-10 will be really hard to beat.

I kind of went nuts and bought two SVS PC12-Plus. Let's just say it's a bit overkill especially since I can't listen very loud too often. But when I can, well... what can I say, it's fun

You're right about subs being expensive as the cheap ones are simply unavailable and importing one from the US kills any saving; on the higher-end side, most ID subs cost lots of money to import. Since SVS has a distributor in Canada (sonicboomaudio.com), they're probably the better bang for the buck but they start at $500 + shipping + tax and the warranty, while good at 3 years + 45 days return window, is not as impressive as it is in the US (free shipping, 5 years, 1 year upgrade policy, etc.). When you're ready to drop $1500 and above on a single sub, funkaudio.ca will have better prices for you than for a US resident, but I'm not there yet...

It's generally true that two subs are preferred over a single one twice the price, but two subs can't offer more low-end extension. So I'd focus on an upgrade that can play down to 20 Hz or near first and foremost, and offer better overall sound quality. If you can score that SVS PB-10 or find any used SVS sub that fit in your budget, that would be a huge improvement. Or any other ID brand, but SVS are the most prevalent in Canada.

Thanks for the find. I've sent him an email already. Just waiting for a reply with my fingers crossed.

Just ordered this. $200 shipped to my home.

Not for my main home theater but for a second room.

Any recommendations for a receiver with these and for rear speaker stands. I don't want to wall mount these. Thanks.

stands for this size of speakers is a waste of money.

If you are trying to set this up on a minimal budget, the Onkyo TX-SR313 is $169 at Newegg with promo code EMCXVXN99.

I don't want to leave them on the floor and the speakers have rear mounted ports so I need some type of stand.

Thanks. I an onkyo fan.

And didn't somebody mention a discount code for the speakers a few pages back?

I used it. It basically gives you free shipping which is $40 to my city.

jare

Are your tweeters dome dented?if.some ask them to send.you the replacememt for.free..I couldn send the speaker from Panama to the US so i emailed th and they sent the tweeter to my P.O. Box in miami and then my carrier service sent.it to Pana.for.10 dollars. It was worth it the speaker is working great now.

No, you don't. These speakers are designed to be wall mountd. You don't have to worry about blocking the rear port with a speaker that doesn't produce bass. Mounting them is so easy with the keyhole mount, literally just put a screw/nail in the wall and hang 'em. I agree it's a waste of money to buy stands, if you care about sound quality that same dollar would return a lot more value getting a better receiver.

I have a pair of CB-20 speakers that I will use for front L&R channels in a 5.1 set up. My question is what are my options for center speaker. I am sure the CC-10 is most logical choice, but is there any down side of using another CB-20 on its side? Also can I use an RC or Veritas center is it will work cosmetically? I do not want to compromise on the center, but still want to limit my cash outlay. Thanks

I'll take your advice and just hang em. I'm thinking of getting the Onkyo 515 and I'll save money on not buying stands. Its just that my wife isnt a big fan of me wall mounting speakers but I wont tell her till they are done then she can just get mad then get over it.

3 matching speakers is actually the perfect setup.

The CB-20 will probably be okay on its side. I've put my RC-10s on their side for a day just to try it out. Still sound good.

strangely, the only tweeter that is dented is the one that appears to be functional. I've only put about 10 minutes on it, but it sounds good. If they let me, i'd like to replace all three.

So, anyone have a single CB-20 thay are willing to sell?

I called Energy and they were kind enough to email me a schematic. Unfortunately the schematic only showed the speakers from the side, and from the side only one woofer is shown, wired the way one would expect. I took this to mean this is how it should be wired if viewed from the other side too. It's clearly parallel wiring. I also realized that the second set of blown drivers were the drivers in each box that were wired incorrectly. (coincidental?) I'm having to make a lot of assumptions here, the final one being that my buddy, who wasn't thinking clearly because of the disease that eventually took his life, wired the replacement drivers incorrectly. I replaced both drivers and wired them the way I think they should be wired and we're currently in the testing phase.

I also found the short that was causing the Pioneer to shut down. It was unrelated to these speakers. The short was to the surround right at the wall terminal. I had to dismantle the entire system, including the cabinetry, to access the shorted wire, but I solved it and cleaned up a lot of wiring while I was back there.

Well email Energy which are managed byKlipsch now and tell.them your situation. They should send you all three tweeters and replace thedemage ones. If they cant ship to canada have them ship the tweeters as.close.as they can and the find a way.to get them those V 5.2 C are worth it. Great great speakers.

i sent an email to energy and wwstereo.com. we'll see where this leads...

oh, and a side note - there was no physical damage to any of the speakers or even their packaging, but of the three speakers, two were double boxed and one was not. i wonder why?

Due to the fear of blowing my rc50s, Lcd, and rc10 with the denon 1713, would anyone recommend an amp that I could add to the 1713 or a resonible receiver? I don't want to put a movie on at -10 and stress aboutvmy speskers

You cannot add an amp to the 1713, it doesn't have pre outs.

At said, I honestly doubt you will have any issues driving the RCs to -10. They are sensitive speakers, so unless you have a giant room -10 should be no problem. Especially if you have them crossed over to a sub (which you should). Switching receivers to get an extra 20-30 watts/ch isn't going to make a difference. The 1713 already IS the definition of a "reasonable receiver".

Look at it this way: -10db from reference means 75db avg levels and 95db peaks. The RCs are around 88-90db sensitive... Which means even with some power loss from distance you should be using LESS THAN ONE WATT per channel for normal volume passages. And well under 50 w/ch even for brief transient peaks. Honestly, -10 is not that loud; remember raising the volume by 10 dB requires 10x the power, so you are only using 1/10th the power required for reference output. It's those last 10db that is the hard part.

What makes you think you need to upgrade? Are you not happy with the sound?
Edited by batpig - 2/9/13 at 6:51pm

Hi folks,

Whats the concesus, Klipsch RW12D or BIC F12? Currently they are both around 60% off on Amazon. Just not sure which one would be sufficient. Any help?

Thanks,
Nathan

my set up is only denon 1612, energy takes 5 and 12" sub. but everytime i watch blurays i always set the volume to 0.00. sounds amazing.

Get the RW-12D from Newegg when it's $299. I just hooked mine up and it's just insane that this sound punches in at $299... Only thing is you might be in for some quality control issues (loose port tube, mismatching cables and in my case, a grill with a broken peg).

+1

Hmm, I wonder when they will go on for $299 again?
Any other crazy deals on subs out there?

I'd like a great deal like the one a bunch of us got on the V5.2s!!

I just didn't want to be at the Max of the receiver and blow a speaker. It's not like I can find these speakers again lol,I plan on having them for a long time. The sub is a different question. The fronts are about 13 ft from the man seating position, we were watching super 8 and there a scenewere I thought the house was going to fall apart lol. My buddy looked at me and asked if I ever played at reference. I thought he was nuts lol. But like I said I didn't. Want to risk something being that loud or any louder I think the 1713 is great, though that dynamic control is kinda weird.
Sometimes when I change it from medium to light or vice verse it doesn't sound like its changing.

It seems like the kllpsch is the popular budget sub on this forum. I would matter the size of the room and type of listening you prefer. But that's just what I learner from being on hear.
If your preference is just for ht I own a big pl-200 and it great for that mind you its great as a BUDGET sub goes. I'm gonna get bigger some day but it normally sales for 279 which is less then the klipsch and packs a hell of a punch.

Please excuse the mistakes in previous post I'm typing on a kindle fire lol

Maybe someday ill grow a pair and try reference lol. But not anytime soon -10 is just fine