Energy Owners Thread - Page 1474

Originally Posted by _Avarice_ 

I see you're on SD too, afro

Originally Posted by GTA Beancounter 

I think the only logical set-up for a 7.1 system would be to have the CF-50's and CC-10 at the front along with the CR-10's to the side mounted on the wall and the CB-20's as rear surrounds on stands.

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1) My plan was to set the system up such that I could plug / unplug a couple speakers and run:
5.1 using the CR-10's as surrounds for movies encoded in 5.1
5.1 using the CB-20's as surrounds for concerts endoded in 5.1 (Positioning the CB-20's accordingly, I've read that bipoles/dipoles are not ideal for music)
7.1 using all the surround speakers as I mentioned above

Am I placing too much importance on matching my speakers to the audio source?

2) The Pioneer is a more powerful receiver (with no HDMI), in theory I could use the analogue outs on the oppo player (using it as a DAC) and connect them to the 1015 (though I'd be limited to 5.1 channel inputs on the 1015, but I could purchase a 2 channel amp). I've heard the 667 is a great sounding receiver and it sounded good to my ears powering the CB-20s at the front at our old house... I just figure that the 120 watts per channel of the 1015 will sound better than the 90 watts of the 667 driving the larger CF-50s

Which receiver is more suited to my purpose buit home theatre in the basement? The other one will be used in the family room upstairs to power the 5 built in speakers.

3) How does my sub match-up to the set-up?

Originally Posted by caloyzki 

thank you sir. i will do this. do you think i made a right decision buying this 2 rc sir? is it a big upgrade from my 5.1 takes? i just want to make it sure.

Originally Posted by DustinLH00 

ARGGHHHHHHH I was just getting ready to buy a pair of CF-70s used! I know matching speakers are next to impossible to find. Can you use a CC-10 with these ok?

Originally Posted by GTA Beancounter 

Hello All,

I'm a first time poster looking for some advice. We used to have a 5.1 setup upstairs in our old home but a move last year relegated most of my gear to the basement as our new family room has built in speakers. We are now looking at finishing a room in our basement (25 x 14 x 7 , L W H) for a dedicated home theatre / man cave. With a recent clearance at future shop I picked up a pair of CF-50's and now have 8 speakers as follows:

Pair of CR-10 (bipole/dipole)
Pair of CB-20 (bookshelf)
Pair of CF-50s (floor standing)
CC-10 Centre
An old Energy EPS - 100 powered sub (100 watt amp and two 6.5" woofers)

I think the only logical set-up for a 7.1 system would be to have the CF-50's and CC-10 at the front along with the CR-10's to the side mounted on the wall and the CB-20's as rear surrounds on stands.

I also have two receivers that I can run, a relatively new Yamaha RXV 667 or an older Pioneer VSX 1015, I plan to pick up an Oppo 103, Epson 8350 projector and Elunevision 108" reference fixed screen to complete my system.

I have the following questions / thoughts that I'd appreciate some input on:

1) My plan was to set the system up such that I could plug / unplug a couple speakers and run:
5.1 using the CR-10's as surrounds for movies encoded in 5.1
5.1 using the CB-20's as surrounds for concerts endoded in 5.1 (Positioning the CB-20's accordingly, I've read that bipoles/dipoles are not ideal for music)
7.1 using all the surround speakers as I mentioned above

Am I placing too much importance on matching my speakers to the audio source?


2) The Pioneer is a more powerful receiver (with no HDMI), in theory I could use the analogue outs on the oppo player (using it as a DAC) and connect them to the 1015 (though I'd be limited to 5.1 channel inputs on the 1015, but I could purchase a 2 channel amp). I've heard the 667 is a great sounding receiver and it sounded good to my ears powering the CB-20s at the front at our old house... I just figure that the 120 watts per channel of the 1015 will sound better than the 90 watts of the 667 driving the larger CF-50s

Which receiver is more suited to my purpose buit home theatre in the basement? The other one will be used in the family room upstairs to power the 5 built in speakers.

3) How does my sub match-up to the set-up?

Thanks for your help!!!

Originally Posted by afrogt 

Now that I got my pair I can be an advocate for others to buy.

Originally Posted by soobaerodude 

Wow, that's a smoking deal for the RC-70s. Is there a reasonable ($200'ish) substitute for the RC-LCR for a center? Wouldn't want to blow $500 on just the center

Originally Posted by neutro 

They are 39.9" x 7.75" x 15" (HxWxD).
Playing de Devil's advocate here, not pushing you into buying something you probably don't need... It's simply that it's probably the last chance to get them new, and at a ridiculously low price. Plus, you could either use your LCRs as overkill surrounds, or sell them for an advantageous price to people looking for centers to go with the 70's. In fact, I thing at the current price ($300) you could do a swap without much trouble.

Originally Posted by afrogt 

Rushed over to my local Fry's and picked up a pair. They still had the same 12 boxes that had been there since before black Friday. Actually they originally had 14 boxes but 2 were sold in December. That poor guy is well beyond the 30 day price match guarantee. Sucks to be him.

Anyway quickly unboxed my pair and connected to my living room Denon AVR 989. Had to rush off to work so didn't calibrate or anything. Loaded up the 5 disc CD changer and let it play. That'll give me some break-in hours before I get home tonight.

Package comes with two port plugs, grille, speaker spikes with tool, manual, etc. Speakers look very nice in black ash although I still think the cherry RC-10s look better. RC-70's in cherry and rosenut are long gone. My LCR is black ash too so at least that matches the towers.

My dilemma is where to place these now. Currently in the main room I have Jamo E680 towers up front, E660 towers as surrounds and a C60 center speaker.

Bedroom has RC-10s on stands, LCR center and RC mini surrounds.

If I place the RC-70's in the main room the LCR wont fit in my cabinet. I do have a cherry RC Mini center that would fit but I wonder if the 70 towers will overpower the smaller center. Color doesn't matter as you can really only see the front grille of the speaker in the cabinet.

I could just place the RC-70's in my bedroom since that's where I listen to most of my music and store the RC-10s for later. That would the easiest thing to do since the RC LCR is on an open shelf in that room.

I guess this is a good dilemma to have, I'm sure I'll figure it out with much experimentation. Glad I use banana plugs as it makes all this swapping much easier.

Originally Posted by afrogt 

Yeah, get the Veritas V5.2C from wwstereo.com if they have any left.
Use code VER52WW if still applicable.
I see rosenut but not black
http://www.wwstereo.com/Energy/V5.2CPIANR

or a V5.2C here on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ENERGY-VERITAS-V5-2-V-5-2-C-V-5-2CENTER-CHANNEL-SPEAKER-Piano-Rosenut-COLOR-/360565769459?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item53f36504f3

Originally Posted by caloyzki 

thank you sir. i will do this. do you think i made a right decision buying this 2 rc sir? is it a big upgrade from my 5.1 takes? i just want to make it sure.

thank you sir. i will do this. do you think i made a right decision buying this 2 rc sir? is it a big upgrade from my 5.1 takes? i just want to make it sure

Originally Posted by batpig 

Amidst the RC-70 frenzy, a couple of excellent Veritas deals on California craigslist I found today that should be snapped up by someone here:

- A pair of Veritas V2.3 tower speakers in the central valley (Merced) for only $650 in the lovely cherry wood finish: http://merced.craigslist.org/ele/3485514614.html

- This is the really awesome one for someone in the LA area, an entire 7ch Veritas setup for $1000 TOTAL: http://ventura.craigslist.org/ele/3525441389.html

Looks like a pair of V2.2 with the custom stands, a V2.0C center, and four V2.0R surrounds. I would assume they are not "i" series but for that price it's hard to beat for all 7 speakers!!

Originally Posted by omerome 

Oh, now you have gone and done it! I am now pondering if I really should. I really do want those speakers but spending more money on speakers...I swear everytime my parents visit, they comment on my latest and newest setup.

I have CB-10s x2 that aren't in use and I'm trying to sell. They were my first speakers. Then I upgraded to RC-10s which are now used as surrounds. I'd feel so much better if I saw more sales going around so I DON'T have to purchase it. Wwhy do these speakers have to be so rare and are not still manufactured?

Originally Posted by afrogt 



3. How does my sub match-up to the set-up?

You're gonna want a much bigger sub for a room that size. And it doesn't need to be an Energy brand sub at all.

Originally Posted by afrogt 


I saw the Veritas 2.3 ad on Craigslist in Merced a couple of weeks ago. My dad lives 10 minutes from there and I was in town last weekend. I meant to call the guy up but I guess it slipped my mind.

How big are those anyway? Not sure they'd fit in my sedan.

Originally Posted by GTA Beancounter 


I figured the Sub would be my next addition.... what do you recommend for $300 - $500?
Thanks Again

Originally Posted by neutro 

Yes, I think you'll find the RC-70s to be quite a bit of an upgrade compared to Take sats...
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thank you all guys, i almost get a heart attack when i am about to purchased this. i think that price is too much for such 2 tower speakers, but it is also too good to pass on. i only have a small living room, but hey bigger is better

ps: is my dayton 1200 sub will be fine?

Originally Posted by batpig 

Yes, that sub should be fine for a smaller room. It's a very good performer for the dollar.

When you think that price is "too much" for 2 tower speakers, remember the msrp on these guys is $2,200 for the pair! You are getting an amazing deal and these speakers will be competitive with any speakers costing up to $5,000.

Originally Posted by Bond 007 

Hey guys. I wanted to ask something while this thread is on fire and you guys are obviously the experts.
I know that you are snatching these older Energy speakers up because of some recent changes at Energy. Can someone briefly summarize what the deal is with that?

Originally Posted by squash42 

Ok, RC-70's installed where RC-50's were before in the Front Left and Front Right positions....time to work on the Poker face before the wife gets home (Oh no dear, those are the same speakers, just tweaked the EQ a little differently...no, they're not taller...must be an optical illusion, maybe we're shrinking;))...

Originally Posted by squash42 

Ok, RC-70's installed where RC-50's were before in the Front Left and Front Right positions....time to work on the Poker face before the wife gets home (Oh no dear, those are the same speakers, just tweaked the EQ a little differently...no, they're not taller...must be an optical illusion, maybe we're shrinking;))...

Out of the box they sound good, but of course not warm or mellow like the 50's yet...we'll see in a few weeks after they're broken in...

Originally Posted by neutro 

Quick, get rid of the boxes!