Energy Owners Thread - Page 1498

Yeah, you need to open them. The corners get damaged when the speakers shift inside the box from rough handling and don't always show any damage on the outside of the box.

I connected my RC-70s to my 10 year old HK AVR 325 last night. Forgot how heavy that receiver was, 40lbs! Almost got hernia trying to move it while holding my much newer and lighter Denon 1613 in the other arm.

That HK is listed at 50W x 7 all channels driven and 65W x 2. It has plenty of power for my RC-70's, especially in a bedroom setup.

Threw on some Brian Culbertson at pretty loud volumes and the receiver didn't break a sweat. I'm probably at around 45-50 hours on these speakers now, didn't use them a whole lot this week after the initial 24 hour break in last weekend.

Still a very happy camper!

Not double boxed but lots of packing around it. More Styrofoam than the RC70's had that's for sure...Every corner was well protected on the v5.2c.

Are you asking us if you should open an undamaged box that contains a speaker you just bought?

That, and plug them in to make sure they work. Things do happen in transit that you can't see.

Do you notice a different sound using yourHK compared to what you had the 70's hooked up to before?

The RC-70's originally retailed for $3k a set? Wow, I thought it was $2200 or something.

My V5.2C showed up yesterday from Vanns. Not double boxed, but everything was fine. Haven't had a chance to hook it up yet, but I did unpack it, and man, this Rosewood finish is gorgeous.

The HK sounds a little fuller/heavier to me. This old receiver doesn't have any room calibration like Audyssey MultEQ except for levels and distance so the speakers are set to large. Originally the receiver was set to small because it was previously connected to a subwoofer in the other room. You immediately notice an increase in bass when going from SMALL to LARGE,

I know the db levels on the volume control don't mean anything since they're different brands but -30 on the HK 325 is about equivalent to -15 on my Denon AVR 591. Both my Denon 591 and 989 were calibrated already to a RC bookshelf system and a Jamo tower system respectively and I haven't decided where these new speakers will end up yet so I haven't run Audyssey again.

I have a hunch they'll go with the Denon 989 in the living room because they seem cramped in my bedroom.

No matter what receiver I connect to them the RC-70's sound really good!

The HK is my floater receiver, I really don't have a purpose for it but I don't want to sell it either because i'm fond of the darn thing. No HDMI but does have 7.1, independent crossovers front, center,surround and surround back, DTS-ES, DD EX, Logic 7, PLIIx, etc. And since it is all analog video inputs you can watch something on one input and play another source on a different input which is still pretty cool.

Used to have my HD Directv receiver connected to it via component and then could switch to CD, tuner or whatever and still have the last video input showing on the TV. i know you cant do that with these newer HDMI receivers or at least not easily.

+1 I was on the fence about speaker break in before I owned the RCs. Now I'm a firm believer.

I have a quick question for anybody here who has spent time with the RC-10 and the Energy V5.2 center. I was able to get a pair of the RC-70s from Frys to replace a pair of RC-10s. I was thinking of just moving one of the RC-10s to center duty, but then I saw the V5.2 center for 200 at Vanns. I was reading that its a pretty close match in tone. If you had the option, like I do, to use one or the other, which would you choose? Would you sell a pair of RC-10s to fund the Veritas center, or will that be more trouble than its worth? One downside is that the the center only comes in rosenut and the rest of my speakers are black, but that would also allow me to use the center appropriately, as opposed to laying a RC-10 on its side. Thanks for any help and thanks to everyone for the discussion on the RC-70s. I hadn't checked the Energy thread in quite a while, so I feel really lucky to have these in my living room.

Guys need a help - one of my friends RC70 was delivered to a wrong address by UPS and we are in a fix now. Initially called Frys on the missing speaker and they just mentioned it was delivered by looking at the tracking numbers so we gave up on them and called UPS directly who after one hour finally figured out that they had delivered it to a wrong address and then they said they will have a investigation opened and it may take about 10-15 business days without a confirmation on whats going to happen. And for updates on this I should contact the shipper and work with them, I call back to frys and lets just say it was one my worst customer service experience so far.

What are the options available to me now? Have any of you experienced anything similar ?

I was able to get the address where UPS delivered it to, I figure it would not be a good idea to contact them directly I hope they haven't mishandled it unknowingly and am dead sure even if we get the speakers back its going to be in a very bad shape given the condition of the speakers that were delivered to me and the additional trips this one is going to make.

Well consider me bummed. I realized too late, and it's my own fault, but my new Veritas 5.2C speaker will not fit in our media console.

Although the width and height of it and my AC-300 center are nearly identical, which is what I referred to when I ordered it, what I neglected to remember was that I had to take off the end caps on the AC-300 to get it to fit in the center space of the console. So now this gorgeous speaker is just sitting on my kitchen table.

Sigh....

There is nothing to disagree with. Re-read what I wrote, it is obvious that I was only speaking about RECEIVER bi-amping.

Sell it to me. :P

I would go knock on the door with a copy of the invoice and tell them UPS sent your item to their house. Most people are honest and if not call the cops or just wait and see what UPS does with the situation. Remember that you paid UPS for a service and they should stand up to their mistake.

Generally the better quality ones are HDF (High Density Fiberboard vs Medium Density Fiberboard).

I would go to the address and find out what they plan on doing with them. It may expedite the return process to take them home and take the wrong recipient out of the process. If you are lucky they may be in good shape and you can take them home and keep them.

this.

Even better call the cops first, explain the situation, and have them follow you there. This way they can oversee the situation from the get-go and things are less likely to take a turn for the worse. Good luck and keep us posted!

I remember the RCs advertising real wood finish. I think there is a layer if real wood veneer over the MDF cabinet. At least that's the case in the rosenut / cherry finishes, not sure about the black ash. Hmmmmm

The cops around here wouldnt bother. Youre right though if anything out of the ordinary happens its best just to leave. UPS will work it out eventually. They have already admitted the mistake.

Of course you can get furniture grade speakers. They are usually solid wood.

My RC-70's finally came today. At first I felt that something was missing despite the impressive details. After about 2 hrs of music I noticed that the speakers had started to put out better sound. Then all of sudden on Pandora "Lookout Weekend"by Debbie Deb came on and the bass made me jump and I must admit I was a bit terrified. I didn't believe Energy or you guys at first but I must agree that a break in really does make a difference. I now see why these retailed for over 2K . What has improved most with the break in is the bass.

2hrs into the break in...wonder what they will sound like after the 100hr break in recommended by Energy.

EDIT: All I can say is WOW what a difference. These speakers just keep getting better. If anyone feels underwhelmed at first give them TIME.
Edited by Porthos01 - 2/22/13 at 7:28pm

If I were you, I would stick with my RC-10s, and not bother selling them to get a V5.2.
I would first try to use an RC-10 as center and even experiment using two RC-10s as an MTTM center and see how that works out.
V5.2 has the advantage of being brighter than the RC center, which is a good thing when it comes to dialogue, but I would try using the RC-10s first before anything else.

Thanks for the advice. Do you have any advice for me about how to use the two rc-10s as a center? Is there anything I should be aware of before I try that? I have a Denon 1613. I'll do a little research on my own as well.

I know....it's such a huge difference. I keep it running on repeat overnight. I am close to 100 hours now. I noticed the high quality music and movies are so good now....what a bargain!

First thing to watch out for is how you are hooking up the two speakers to your center channel on the receiver end. You would want to do them serially, rather than feeding the same channel over twice to both the speakers.
Its unorthodox to be using two bookshelfs as a center, but hey its worth a shot when you have two rc-10s at disposal and the matching color too.

what is youre set up sir for the 3 fronts?

Is anyone in this thread willing to part ways with their RC-10's and doesn't mind shipping?

Edit: Next post has the link to the RW-12D deal.
Edited by enthusiast8 - 2/23/13 at 9:19am

The veritas don't sound the same or as close ,getting a veritas center will totally mess the front staging sound, I recommend you to keep the Rc-10 and use one as a center channel.


That's why I haven't recommend the veritas center with Rc-70 ,mismatch is not even recommended by professionals. same timbre match in front stage is a must.other wise you will always get distracted and will notice the difference when the sound is panning from left center and right channels.


If you think you can leave with that then is okay I personally always use the same timbre match in front stage.
Edited by losservatore - 2/22/13 at 10:17pm