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post #44941 of 47662
2/22/13 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by ah_1014 View Post

Is anyone in this thread willing to part ways with their RC-10's and doesn't mind shipping?

there's a mint pair on ebay right now that ends in about 30 minutes. You should grab them.
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post #44942 of 47662
2/22/13 at 10:22pm
Hey afrogt, was good meeting you in the store, thanks for sharing the knowledge! One thing that cannot be emphasized enough is the break-in time for these - when I listened in the sound room they sounded much warmer than the Infiniti and Klipsch, but I listened to a whole cd on the RC-70s and they just sounded muddy and not sharp clarity-wise (I kept moving to different spots and angles, and almost could not believe the lack of clarity - to the point I almost walked away.) FYI I was told all of the other Fry's in the area were out of stock as well.

The muddiness also told that the set had been used very little and had not been used much at all, and being out of box I got to throughly inspect them to see they were in mint shape (and not have to deal with shipping ding & dent issues so many have been talking about). Based on the reading I had done on SlickDeals and here, made the call to go for it and trust the reviews that they would improve with break-in.

Threw in the 5% off for the demos, grabbed a NIB 1612 the next day for $100 to power them for now (thanks BB!), and like others have said they are breaking in (using mostly IR trance station) and getting better.... And better... Spouse was impressed even!

Two thoughts - I can see a lot of average customers walking away from these after a demo if the store didn't take the time to break them in properly, especially at their original price. Second, wanted to thank all those on here who also post on SD, good info to start there and even more on here.
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post #44943 of 47662
2/22/13 at 10:33pm
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

The veritas don't sound the same or as close ,getting a veritas center will totally mess the front staging sound, I recommend you to keep the Rc-10 and use one as a center channel.


That's why I haven't recommend the veritas center with Rc-70 ,mismatch is not even recommended by professionals. same timbre match in front stage is a must.other wise you will always get distracted and will notice the difference when the sound is panning from left center and right channels.


If you think you can leave with that then is okay I personally always use the same timbre match in front stage.

From what I've seen almost everyone who recently acquired the rc-70's ordered the Veritas 5.2-c for their center (including myself). It may not be a perfect match but I think it's the next best thing and certainly the best option us new 70's owners have.
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post #44944 of 47662
2/22/13 at 11:36pm
First time posting, been lurking on the thread since the start of the sale. Anyways, I got my rc70s today as well as the 5.2c. As some of you have noticed, shipping is not very good, nor is packaging. I got 5.2 in perfect condition. As for the RC70, one did not have any damage at all, the other had quite a bit. It basically has 3 dents at the middle of the back. At the bottom right corner part of the base is missing and there is damage to the corner of the cabinet that goes pretty deep. My question is do you guys think that having damage to the corner like that will have an effect on sound quality? It looks like it goes all the way in and I'm afraid that it will cause more damage in the long run as well mad.gif.

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post #44945 of 47662
2/23/13 at 12:41am
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Originally Posted by koovoodoo View Post

First time posting, been lurking on the thread since the start of the sale. Anyways, I got my rc70s today as well as the 5.2c. As some of you have noticed, shipping is not very good, nor is packaging. I got 5.2 in perfect condition. As for the RC70, one did not have any damage at all, the other had quite a bit. It basically has 3 dents at the middle of the back. At the bottom right corner part of the base is missing and there is damage to the corner of the cabinet that goes pretty deep. My question is do you guys think that having damage to the corner like that will have an effect on sound quality? It looks like it goes all the way in and I'm afraid that it will cause more damage in the long run as well mad.gif.

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Oh man, that's a nasty bruise! In my opinion, I don't think it will have anything to do with the sound. You need to test both speakers. I would even pull the gold plate off the connecting posts so you can test the woofers seperately. If you notice any whistling sound then yeah, but I would think that any air pressure is going to go out the ports, even when plugged with the foam plugs. Also check for any rattling, but I would think that could be repaired with wood glue. If you can't live with it cosmetically you might have luck with a return but, as far as getting it replaced, it sure looks like they're all but gone. Try calling them and sending them a pic. At the very least you should expect a partial refund but I'm not sure whether it would come from UPS or Fry's. You didn't say how bad the box was. In the meantime, fire them up and enjoy the sound at least. Lottsaluck!
Edited by Fears4Ears - 2/23/13 at 3:34am
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post #44946 of 47662
2/23/13 at 4:21am
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

what is youre set up sir for the 3 fronts?

Rc70s (Frys sale) and v5.2 c (vanns sale). Its a good match in my opinion and still breaking in the center. Worth it to shell out the 200 for the center for me. The center is rosenut and the rc70 s are black but I already had a wooden casing built around thr center so you I only see the black front of the v5.2.
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post #44947 of 47662
2/23/13 at 4:25am
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Originally Posted by Stol3n View Post

From what I've seen almost everyone who recently acquired the rc-70's ordered the Veritas 5.2-c for their center (including myself). It may not be a perfect match but I think it's the next best thing and certainly the best option us new 70's owners have.

That's what I have and it is a really good option and seems to be smooth and similar across the fronts timbre wise. I am definitely happy with it so far. It's only been 1 day but a huge improvement over the polk cs10 , which I thought was great until now. And losservatore is right but not willing to shell out $500 for the lcr..
Edited by eah9 - 2/23/13 at 5:13am
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post #44948 of 47662
2/23/13 at 4:57am
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Originally Posted by ah_1014 View Post

Is anyone in this thread willing to part ways with their RC-10's and doesn't mind shipping?
I am also looking for one or two RC-10s.
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post #44949 of 47662
2/23/13 at 7:04am
The $279 RW-12D deal is live now. Ends tomorrow or until out of stock.
So anyone looking for that budget sub, go for it.
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post #44950 of 47662
2/23/13 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by enthusiast8 View Post

The $279 RW-12D deal is live now. Ends tomorrow or until out of stock.
So anyone looking for that budget sub, go for it.
thats a good sub too. i think most of them are also waiting for RC LCR deal?
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post #44951 of 47662
2/23/13 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

thats a good sub too. i think most of them are also waiting for RC LCR deal?
Arent they all smile.gif. Thats gonna be one helluva sale when that happens. Who'd want to spend 500 on the center when they got the tower for 300.
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post #44952 of 47662
2/23/13 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by enthusiast8 View Post

Who'd want to spend 500 on the center when they got the tower for 300.
Indeed!
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post #44953 of 47662
2/23/13 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by Steelsnow View Post

Hey afrogt, was good meeting you in the store, thanks for sharing the knowledge! One thing that cannot be emphasized enough is the break-in time for these - when I listened in the sound room they sounded much warmer than the Infiniti and Klipsch, but I listened to a whole cd on the RC-70s and they just sounded muddy and not sharp clarity-wise (I kept moving to different spots and angles, and almost could not believe the lack of clarity - to the point I almost walked away.) FYI I was told all of the other Fry's in the area were out of stock as well.

The muddiness also told that the set had been used very little and had not been used much at all, and being out of box I got to throughly inspect them to see they were in mint shape (and not have to deal with shipping ding & dent issues so many have been talking about). Based on the reading I had done on SlickDeals and here, made the call to go for it and trust the reviews that they would improve with break-in.

Threw in the 5% off for the demos, grabbed a NIB 1612 the next day for $100 to power them for now (thanks BB!), and like others have said they are breaking in (using mostly IR trance station) and getting better.... And better... Spouse was impressed even!

Two thoughts - I can see a lot of average customers walking away from these after a demo if the store didn't take the time to break them in properly, especially at their original price. Second, wanted to thank all those on here who also post on SD, good info to start there and even more on here.

Good meeting you too Steelsnow! I wondered if you were getting an additional discount for the demos. Were they able to get you the port plugs and speaker spikes? You may not need either but they'd be nice to have.

You said you had a lead on a Denon 1612 for $100. Great deal! I think you also told me you previously had a Rotel receiver, is that still working or dead now? Curious how the RC-70s would sound with a Rotel.

Welcome to AVS Forum, I see that was your first post! The RC-70's do get better as you put more hours on them.
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post #44954 of 47662
2/23/13 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by stuartbmw3 View Post

I am also looking for one or two RC-10s.

eBay has two sets for sale right now, one being brand new in box. Kind of pricey, but probably going to be the only route you can go.
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post #44955 of 47662
2/23/13 at 8:04am
The pair of RC-10s that sold last night went for $263 shipped which was a very good deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENERGY-RC-10-SPEAKERS-BLACK-WOOD-VENEER-BOOKSHELF-MONITORS-MINT-CONDITION-/190799048727?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2c6c827017
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post #44956 of 47662
2/23/13 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

Oh man, that's a nasty bruise! In my opinion, I don't think it will have anything to do with the sound. You need to test both speakers. I would even pull the gold plate off the connecting posts so you can test the woofers seperately. If you notice any whistling sound then yeah, but I would think that any air pressure is going to go out the ports, even when plugged with the foam plugs. Also check for any rattling, but I would think that could be repaired with wood glue. If you can't live with it cosmetically you might have luck with a return but, as far as getting it replaced, it sure looks like they're all but gone. Try calling them and sending them a pic. At the very least you should expect a partial refund but I'm not sure whether it would come from UPS or Fry's. You didn't say how bad the box was. In the meantime, fire them up and enjoy the sound at least. Lottsaluck!

Thanks. I called Fry's and sent them the pictures of the damages. As for testing the speakers, I listened to your advice, plugged the port, removed the connecting post, and wired the woofers. When I turn the volume up, I can feel a small amount of air on my fingers from the crack. There wasn't any rattling that I could appreciate though. I'll just have to see what Fry's can do for me at this point.
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post #44957 of 47662
2/23/13 at 9:24am
Im sorry guys but my intentions is not to make feel anyone bad,If you have patience you will find a RC speaker here or ebay, I sold my rc-lcr not too long ago for $250 free shipping ,I see very often the RC-10 for sale, This is a perfect match for a center channel and it have the same finish and sound.


on another note

Im in the process of moving and I have been without a center channel for about 4 months,my tv was on the wall and the center speaker on the tv stand but now the tv is on the tv stand and the speaker is in the box ready for the moving,

Now Im just using the left and right towers and surround left and right with the sub, to be very honest I haven't miss the center channel at all ,Im still able to play the HD audio formats from blue rays without any problem and it fells like the center channel still there for me not a really big difference.

Take care guys and at the end choose what you feel is the right choice for you.smile.gif


If you are enjoying your system that's what really counts.wink.gif
Edited by losservatore - 2/23/13 at 9:45am
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post #44958 of 47662
2/23/13 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Now Im just using the left and right towers and surround left and right with the sub, to be very honest I haven't miss the center channel at all ,Im still able to play the HD audio formats from blue rays without any problem and it fells like the center channel still there for me not a really big difference.
I've heard several comments about people being quite happy without a center channel, even from people like you who have experienced "with" and "without". I suppose that if your FL and FR speakers are close enough together, they could take the place of a center channel and since most people are unable to have a dedicated center at the same height as their FR and FL because of their TV or screen, this could be a better alternative in some cases.
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post #44959 of 47662
2/23/13 at 10:25am
oh and I want to clear this, Im not a rich guy it took me time and patience to build my 2 setups I was always waiting for the big sales online.

like I did with the 5.0 energy v minis package, $380 is a excellent deal for this speakers.


big discount sales are always welcome biggrin.gif
Edited by losservatore - 2/23/13 at 10:32am
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post #44960 of 47662
2/23/13 at 11:08am
The RC-10's that are for sale now on ebay are 3 years old per owner . The reason I bring this up is I have a pair of RC-10's that I bought new end of this past summer.
Right after that I bought a 2 pairs of RC-R's. The 10's sat unused for a few months then I hooked them up for front heights/wides for no more than 30 hours with just movies. Decided to
go with 4 RC-70's up front instead so pulled the RC10's out of the mix. So these are as new as they can get without being in an unopened new box item. Buying on ebay can be at times a good deal
and a gamble. With me I have been on the forum since 2010 and I am honest about anything I have sold here, last thing I want is to sell something to somebody and not fully disclose what I am selling.
I am asking and it is a firm price of 310.00 shipping is included in this price to the lower 48 states These will also come with original boxes and I prefer to ship with FEDEX Ground over UPS. Never had a problem with FEDEX shipping larger and heavier items as well. PM me if you have an interest, you will get exactly what I have described.smile.gif
Edited by baron2 - 2/23/13 at 11:13am
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post #44961 of 47662
2/23/13 at 11:25am
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The RC-10's that are for sale now on ebay are 3 years old per owner . The reason I bring this up is I have a pair of RC-10's that I bought new end of this past summer.
Right after that I bought a 2 pairs of RC-R's. The 10's sat unused for a few months then I hooked them up for front heights/wides for no more than 30 hours with just movies. Decided to
go with 4 RC-70's up front instead so pulled the RC10's out of the mix. So these are as new as they can get without being in an unopened new box item. Buying on ebay can be at times a good deal
and a gamble. With me I have been on the forum since 2010 and I am honest about anything I have sold here, last thing I want is to sell something to somebody and not fully disclose what I am selling.
I am asking and it is a firm price of 310.00 shipping is included in this price to the lower 48 states These will also come with original boxes and I prefer to ship with FEDEX Ground over UPS. Never had a problem with FEDEX shipping larger and heavier items as well. PM me if you have an interest, you will get exactly what I have described.smile.gif


baron that price is not bad at all, if I was in the same situation like many here now ,I use this pair for surrounds and use the rc-70s without a center till I found a RC center or a single RC-10 for a good price.


if you think you can help this guys even more you can sell the speakers as single so two people can benefit with a RC-10 as a center,ether way they will get sold quickly.
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post #44962 of 47662
2/23/13 at 11:27am
Thanks Lossorvatore.
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post #44963 of 47662
2/23/13 at 12:59pm
Guys if you can find a RC MINI LCR , That's another good choice.


If I'm not wrong batpig use that center with the RC-10.
Edited by losservatore - 2/23/13 at 1:36pm
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post #44964 of 47662
2/23/13 at 2:09pm
Batpig, AfroGT and I all went around with this. We were actually all happy with the RC-Mini Center. We all had small spaces and were running them with RC-10's at the time. The argument was, wouldn't there be more clarity at lower volumes with the Mini rather than the huge RC-LCR? We ALL ended up with RC-LCR's but then they were available at the time. Mine is still in the box while I re-model my bedroom but the other guys saw improvements. However, the RC-LCR's aren't a perfect match either with their dedicated mids. They ARE one of the best centers ever designed as far as lobing and flexibilty (which is why they retailed for so much), but as far as price, you may want to listen to all those that are happy with the Veritas center. Especially at the current discount. I would think they would also be easy to sell when they become obsolete like the RC-LCR's, if you are lucky enough to find an RC-LCR in the future.
Edited by Fears4Ears - 2/23/13 at 2:33pm
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post #44965 of 47662
2/23/13 at 2:56pm
I am one VERY happy camper...!!
Thursday eve I arrived home from work to find my RC-10's in their boxes. I took a few pictures of them just in case I had to make a claim for any damage. As you can see there are a few rips and tears, a hole or two here and there increased my anxiety even further.




After un-boxing the first one I was absolutely floored with the fit and finish of the speaker. Standing before me was a TOTALLY perfect shiny, piece of magic. Not a dent, scratch, rattle or anything out of the ordinary.

I asked myself about the chances that a second speaker would arrive in as similar a condition as the first. I proceeded to cross my fingers and un-box the second. Well, the shipping gods must have been looking out for me after my trials with my brand new still in the their boxes RC-LCR, RC-10's, Denon 2313 receiver getting submerged from Hurricane Sandy.

I know that it sucks for the others who had damaged speakers on delivery and you have my sympathies but in my case hats off to UPS and whatever Energy guardian angel was looking over my shoulder

By the way these were shipped to Long Island, NY, that's a long way from their origin....!!!
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post #44966 of 47662
2/23/13 at 3:01pm
Lucky on so many levels! Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy! Now just wait 'til you hear them all together.
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post #44967 of 47662
2/23/13 at 3:28pm
Congrats! Happy listening!! It's going to sound fantastic.
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post #44968 of 47662
2/23/13 at 4:19pm
I will be honest, what really bothers me more is the finish mix!!! piano rosenut with black ash eek.gif if you guys find a black contact paper or anything that looks similar to black ash that will be better tongue.gif


The verita center in piano black with the rc-70 wouldn't look bad at all.


I'm too picky biggrin.gif
Edited by losservatore - 2/24/13 at 10:19am
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post #44969 of 47662
2/23/13 at 4:31pm
Found this Dayton Audio VL218-BA Black Ash Vinyl Laminate 2 ft. x 18 ft.

Im not sure if you will be able to remove it like the contact paper confused.gif

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=261-610



Edited by losservatore - 2/23/13 at 10:25pm
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post #44970 of 47662
2/23/13 at 5:05pm
That's cool stuff. I will have to check it out. I have my rosenut center encased in wood - which I am going to stain to match my entertainment center. It also lifts my tv up to a good height for viewing. I only see the black front so it looks the same. I wish they were all rosenut though....or the piano black. Oh well.....the savings and sound are still worth it :-)
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