Energy Owners Thread - Page 1500

You can't be bothered by what you can't see. With the speaker grilles on and the center tucked inside an entertainment center you would never know unless I told you. Even if the grilles were off, I wouldn't mind a different colored center, it would add some contrast to all that black.

That black ash vinyl isn't a bad idea for those who care. Quite frankly I'm proud of mine just the way they are, and I'm only out of pocket $618.88 for all three...yeah, I'm happy with that all day, (had $110 in amazon gift cards).
Edited by Stol3n - 2/23/13 at 7:19pm

It's all good. There will be 100 opinions about everything - folks take some and leave some, then move on..

Watched a blu-ray movie with True-HD audio last night......WOW! I heard things I have never heard before...So thrilled with this setup. I turned off my junky subw and the RC70's handled it very well...
Edited by eah9 - 2/24/13 at 7:17am

hi guys, which one is a better pair as my surround on my RC 70's fronts? i dont have center yet, and im deciding if i can keep my takes classic for my surround or the Energy Veritas V-Mini Speakers? and i dont know if my dayton 1200 sub will be fine?

I was able to get $50 back from Frys for the damaged base, thanks to everyone who reported their successes on this front. The CS people at Frys were helpful.

A couple of things: I was concerned that the difference between the 50s and the 70s would not be that noticeable-- dead wrong on that front. Music is spectacular, a lot less congestion in the midrange, and it seems like the bass reaches a bit deeper, though that might be the fact that I'm running them without the ports plugged, whereas I had the ports on the 50s plugged. They handle all genres well (this is true of the 10 and the 50 as well). I have about 20 hours on the 70s so far, and am curious to hear if the sound changes at all-- really ran them through the gamut yesterday, with some industrial, ambient, trance, classical, jazz; they added a lot of depth to the music. Have not re-run Pioneer's room correction software to account for the change in speakers. The added height to the tweeter adds a disproportionate amount of height to the soundstage (tweeter is now just above our listening position), but this also might be an effect of having the ports open. The 50s are awesome speakers, especially for gaming and home theater, but the 70s do add a palpable improvements.

I didn't have the carpet spikes on the 50s, but am considering it for the 70s-- has anyone had any problems with the spikes catching and damaging the base? I've seen this happen before with B&W speakers.

Interesting tidbit. Of the 17 Fry's in California, 14 are showing the RC-70 as available, one store is showing open box, and only 2 are showing unavailable. I won't be surprised to see another sale, or they could just run an unadvertised clearance on them.

New amp is making me grin for sure hehe..just added my second yammy p2500s. Currently i have one running my mains rc70's.
My question is: should i have the second one run the rc10 surrounds or the center lcr? If the former then i will use the avr to run the center only while the amps handle the other speakers..

Btw not intentionally double posting or anything but i felt this question would be better asked in this thread vs the amp makes me grin thread. Thanks

And thanks afrogt for giving me those mount options a while back. I ended up designing my own mounts for the rc10 pairs. I think they will work quite good!

It sounds like you are saying there is actually a hole that goes through the entire cabinet. If so that will have an impact on the sound of the speaker as that effectively adds to the size of the port which would be a difference between the two speakers. How big of a difference is up to your ears to decide. If you bought these as new and they still have stock I would send it back. If they don't have stock and you like the speakers I would ask for a significant discount and as mentioned you could use some wood putty to try and seal that back up or see if a furniture repair person could help with that. I actually bought a pair of cherry RC 70s that had dings and had a furniture repair guy come in and fill the dings and match the finish and it turned our well and was about $80 which was far less than what I saved on them. Maybe if you are going to go the discount route see what it would cost to have a furniture repair guy work on it and make sure you get more than that on a discount, But if they have stock I'd return it. You paid for a new item and while I would accept some dings for a discount that is a bit excessive IMO.

Nobody is mad, upset, or asking you to take back anything you've said. Your willingness to answer questions and give your opinions are much appreciated. I'm new here and appreciate any and all criticism, opinions, thoughts, or suggestions.

I think it's safe to say that most of us new RC-70 owners are just happy to have purchased the pair for $598. Going into the purchase I'm sure that most of us were aware that finding the matching center was going to be extremely hard and expensive if found. The next best option for me is the 5.2c. It's not a perfect match however, I'm okay with that and actually welcome the brighter 5.2c as a center speaker. For my application the 5.2c will rest tucked inside a nice entertainment center (grille on) and serve it purpose quite well. The finish will not matter because it won't be seen, not that I'm trying to hide it but the entertainment center and grille naturally take care of that. For $199 it's the only viable and most logical option for me despite it's beautiful Rosenut color or it being slightly "mis-matched".

Once again, your opinion and many others are valued. I'm not an audophile, just your average joe putting together my first theater system...and for a fraction of it's original cost.
Edited by Stol3n - 2/24/13 at 8:34am

Man wow that damage definitely was made on purpose the base is pretty strong and can hold a impact to protect the enclosure but the impact broke the base and destroy that corner, it requires to drop the speaker with force to look like that unless was drop from x amount of feets ,breaking the Styrofoam then the base then the enclosure.


Ask for big partial refund and if you know anything about wood work try to fix it ,everything made of wood can be fix ,you can also send it to a furniture repair shop ask how much that damage will cost and let Frys know the cost of the fix to see if they can give that refund or call and see if you get lucky with a new speaker.

The center speaker is going to get way more content than the surrounds. I'd use the amp for the RC LCR

That may be misleading - I called one of the stores looking for a second pair of 70's that showed available on the web site, but they were actually out of stock. Further, the Fry's rep initially said they were in stock after looking on the computer - I asked her to check physical stock and there were actually none available.

Stol3n I was a owner of both setups Rc-70 7.1 and veritas v 6.3 7.1 I had both setups for over a year then there was a new baby at home and I decide to sold the Rc setup that was in my movie room to use the room for the baby.maybe I have been too exaggerated with the combination of veritas with rc ,there have been many questions here that I have answered about both setups so when it gets to questions about rc and veritas members said ask losservatore and that will left me with no other option than explain the difference in sound..


I had been into that topic many times here is not my intentions to criticize those who had bough a mismatched center ,what it really counts is been satisfied and happy with what you have, if you are happy with that the rest is less important.
Edited by losservatore - 2/24/13 at 10:16am

So I have the rc70's and v5.2c. I turned off my old junky sub - it's cleaner without it - because the range of the rc70's. My sony1030 receiver set the front to large when doing the autocalc with no sub. Do I still need to change them to small with no sub? The center is showing a crossover at 80. It all sounds great like this but just wanted to double check. Thanks!

I guess what Stol3n was saying and I want to say is dont be apologetic. Most reading this forum including me value your opinion as an owner with experience and some one taking his time to help others.

exactly.

I am really enjoying my RC-70s. I have maybe 75 hours on them. I have run them side by side with a pair of Vandersteen 2Ce Signature speakers. It is a 2-channel set up ,with a Sonic Frontiers SFL-1 Signature preamp and a McCormack DNA-1 amp. The McCormack/Vandersteen match is really good, but I am quite surprised with how refined the 70s sound compared to the Vandys. There are some really interesting similarities and differences between the two speakers. Vandys are known to be laid back, relaxed and non-fatiguing, and they are. I really like them. The 70s though, already are very composed and easy to listen to. They seem to have a bit more detail, but it does not come with a harsh edge. The thing that really impressed me was the sense of immediacy that the Energy speakers had.....but again not at the cost of being harsh or edgy. It is way to early to say one is preferable over the other in my set up, but I am extremely impressed with the performance of these RC-70 speakers. A tremendous buy at $598 a pair.,I bought these on a whim, and feel like I really did well.

I am not an AV guy, almost strictly 2-channel audio....but this has me thinking I need to once again build a "modest" home theatre set up. If I did that, I would be limited on space for a center channel (RC-RCL) would not fit.

I have two questions. First would an RC-10 be my best choice to match the voicing of the 70s, and secondly how much of a compromise would it be to run with a phantom center, and run the signal only through the RC-70s?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Help!

Am reaching out to the experts here on what to do about surround placement to go with the new 70's. Current system and options are as follows:

RC-70's Front
RC-LCR Center

RC-R's, RC-10's, CR-10's, CB5's available to use for surrounds.

Am planning to install a 5.1 system only at this time.

Would like to use the RC-R's, but while the right rear could be mounted next to the window at any height, the left rear mounting would be too high due to the opening to the other room (see pictures).

Have considered using stands, but it would only be a matter of time before they got knocked off accidentally as this is the family room. The room is 13' wide and 18' long

Have also considered installing shelves on the walls or pivoting wall mounts, but I think they would look odd if installed with the RC-R's angling downward towards the listening area (which is why I picked up the CR-10's in the first place as they allow for flush mounting with downward firing drivers.

Would appreciate any constructive help with figuring this out...thanks.

Nope - without a sub, the fronts will typically set to large by default. Your 70's dig deep enough to be set to large.

Thanks! I just wasn't sure the impact on the center.

I would think your center should be set to large - I also am running without a sub and mine is set to large. Your V5.2c will definitely go lower than 80hz.

You could set your 70s to large but make sure you have enough power to power them if you are playing loud. Get a sub

Have listed a pair of Black Oak RC-10's with Wall Brackets on ebay today.

Have also listed a High Gloss Black RC Mini.

Seller name on ebay is mononut

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Speakers-RC-Mini-Center-Speaker-High-Gloss-Black-/300866730775?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item460d0dfb17

Set then as small and test each speaker with different crossover settings and check which one sound the best for each speaker ,sometimes even set then a little lower or higher will make then sound better.just play around with the crossover settings.

DJ led thanks for the input, thats great for the recently Rc-70 members. I recommend to the members to keep a eye on eBay and post any Rc speaker for sale here so we can help then finish their setup.

Phantom center is fine as long as you are in that sweet spot in the listening area. Your off axis imaging wont be great. If you are in the best listening position, a phantom, center does image pretty well, but you see yourself at times turning up the volume for dialogue legibility.
If you are limited on space for a center, how are you considering an RC-10 to use as a center?

Amazon too.

Also the rc-micro or mirage omnipolar speaker is another good choice for surrounds.

what about takes classic for surround?

Everyone could set the Front or Center to full as long as the receiver has enough power. The ideas to set your speaker at different crossover is to let a power sub handle LF that need more power. The RC70 can go down very low but if you don't have a good receiver to push out.

Yes those too, for movies surround mismatch is not that critical ,the surround speakers are not pointing directly at your ears so is hard to notice any difference.