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Originally Posted by stuartbmw3 View Post

I am really enjoying my RC-70s. I have maybe 75 hours on them. I have run them side by side with a pair of Vandersteen 2Ce Signature speakers. It is a 2-channel set up ,with a Sonic Frontiers SFL-1 Signature preamp and a McCormack DNA-1 amp. The McCormack/Vandersteen match is really good, but I am quite surprised with how refined the 70s sound compared to the Vandys. There are some really interesting similarities and differences between the two speakers. Vandys are known to be laid back, relaxed and non-fatiguing, and they are. I really like them. The 70s though, already are very composed and easy to listen to. They seem to have a bit more detail, but it does not come with a harsh edge. The thing that really impressed me was the sense of immediacy that the Energy speakers had.....but again not at the cost of being harsh or edgy. It is way to early to say one is preferable over the other in my set up, but I am extremely impressed with the performance of these RC-70 speakers. A tremendous buy at $598 a pair.,I bought these on a whim, and feel like I really did well.

I am not an AV guy, almost strictly 2-channel audio....but this has me thinking I need to once again build a "modest" home theatre set up. If I did that, I would be limited on space for a center channel (RC-RCL) would not fit.

I have two questions. First would an RC-10 be my best choice to match the voicing of the 70s, and secondly how much of a compromise would it be to run with a phantom center, and run the signal only through the RC-70s?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Another alternative if you can find it is the RC mini CC. This is the next step down in size from the RC-LCR, is part of and matches the RC line. I have two set up in my bedroom (rears to an RC-LCR/RC-10's/RC mini CC set) but one did do center duty with the RC-50's in my main area (RC-LCR/RC-50/RC-10/Rc mini) before the RC-LCR replaced it and it held its own very well.
post #45002 of 47714
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Originally Posted by enthusiast8 View Post

If you are limited on space for a center, how are you considering an RC-10 to use as a center?

My constraint is height. I think an RC-10 on its side would fit, an RC-RCL would not.....not sure if the RC-10 on its side is a good idea, but that is the only way it would fit......maybe an RC-Mini C is best option....
post #45003 of 47714
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Originally Posted by stuartbmw3 View Post

My constraint is height. I think an RC-10 on its side would fit, an RC-RCL would not.....not sure if the RC-10 on its side is a good idea, but that is the only way it would fit......maybe an RC-Mini C is best option....
ok. in that case the rc mini c might be your option. Or even a v mini center if you wanted something brighter. Some one a few pages back was looking to sell their v mini center (cherry though).
post #45004 of 47714
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Originally Posted by stuartbmw3 View Post

My constraint is height. I think an RC-10 on its side would fit, an RC-RCL would not.....not sure if the RC-10 on its side is a good idea, but that is the only way it would fit......maybe an RC-Mini C is best option....

RC-10 is 6.5" tall on its side. RC LCR is around 7.5"

I've played my RC-10s on their sides just to try them out. they sound fine.
post #45005 of 47714
Another RC sighting in Toronto, for Canadians looking to round out their systems. 2 X RC 50, 1 RC LCR, 2 X RC-R and a S 10.3 sub, $1200.00

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649045455-energy_rc50_51channel_home_theatre_speaker_system/
post #45006 of 47714
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Originally Posted by DJLEC View Post

Have listed a pair of Black Oak RC-10's with Wall Brackets on ebay today.

Have also listed a High Gloss Black RC Mini.

Seller name on ebay is mononut

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Speakers-RC-Mini-Center-Speaker-High-Gloss-Black-/300866730775?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item460d0dfb17

What kind of mounts are those?
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Yes, my shelf space is about 7" max......
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

RC-10 is 6.5" tall on its side. RC LCR is around 7.5"

I've played my RC-10s on their sides just to try them out. they sound fine.
post #45008 of 47714
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

What kind of mounts are those?

Thanks for the question and I have updated my ebay ad.

They are Pinpont AM40 which you can see at Crutchfield.

Have always been fond of these for the small speakers once you get them set.
post #45009 of 47714
I have the exact same speakers mount, those are really good and can hold pretty heavy speakers without a problem ,Im not sure why he screw the speakers at the bottom and made those holes to the speakers but mines never had fall from the mounts you can tight then pretty good ,but oh well he choose that option.
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Since batpig and other denon aficionados seem to regularly visit this thread....does anyone know for sure if multi ch stereo bypasses bass management in the Denons? With all of these speakers, it's hard to just listen to two channel stereo biggrin.gif....trying to decide between Audyssey DSX w/ dolby pl2 music or multi ch stereo. Just wasn't sure if multi ch stereo was effectively running everything as large and bypasing the benefits of xt32.
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post #45012 of 47714
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

Since batpig and other denon aficionados seem to regularly visit this thread....does anyone know for sure if multi ch stereo bypasses bass management in the Denons? With all of these speakers, it's hard to just listen to two channel stereo biggrin.gif....trying to decide between Audyssey DSX w/ dolby pl2 music or multi ch stereo. Just wasn't sure if multi ch stereo was effectively running everything as large and bypasing the benefits of xt32.

No it doesn't bypass Audyssey. Mult Ch Stereo is just a simulated sound mode.

The 7.1 analog inputs might bypass bass management but fewer and fewer receivers have that functionality anymore. And you'd need a source that outputs 7.1 (or 5.1) analog.
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Guys can you reccomend me what kind of music i need to play so that i can test my rc 70?
post #45014 of 47714
Whatever you like. It sounds great from folk to classical to rock to ...
post #45015 of 47714
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

Guys can you reccomend me what kind of music i need to play so that i can test my rc 70?
Anything you like and are familiar with.
post #45016 of 47714
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

No it doesn't bypass Audyssey. Mult Ch Stereo is just a simulated sound mode.

The 7.1 analog inputs might bypass bass management but fewer and fewer receivers have that functionality anymore. And you'd need a source that outputs 7.1 (or 5.1) analog.

Thx afro....I didn't see anywhere in batpig's guide that spoke to that particular sound mode, so that's helpful info.
post #45017 of 47714
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

I have the exact same speakers mount, those are really good and can hold pretty heavy speakers without a problem ,Im not sure why he screw the speakers at the bottom and made those holes to the speakers but mines never had fall from the mounts you can tight then pretty good ,but oh well he choose that option.

I was not fussy about drilling the holes either. There have been cases where the Speaker has toppled out of these Brackets.

Here in Earthquake County and with the angle I needed I decided to fasten it securely to the bottom plate as recommended by the Manufacturer,

I am biased but I have always felt these are the best on the market.
post #45018 of 47714
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They went for right about $203 shipped. I need to replace my RC-70s when they get moved to the basement upon it being finished later this year. Was this close to bidding on them. Was not so long ago you could get them for $220 new.

I'm really disappointed the RC line is going, going... go....
post #45019 of 47714
Guys i just run my audysy with my rc 70 fronts no center and take classic surrounds. Which one i need to adjust fronts was set to large Front crossover set to 40hz surround 120hz.subwoofer mode LFE LPF for LFE 120hz
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That's for one RC10.
post #45021 of 47714
I have a set of the Energy Take Classic 5.1 and a pair of the CF-30's I use for large front speakers.
I have been both happy and surprised with how well these speakers do, especially for their size.

I have been temporarily using them in an extended stereo mode putting more content through the 4 rear speakers usually dedicated as rear surrounds in a 7.1 system but both putting out SR and SR left in 5.1 content. I have a bed back there and to have lower volume at night and hear the movie on the 120 inch screen on the other end of the room I stumbled upon this sort of be default. I do like having the addition of the CF-30's up front especially when I am playing music but for their size the surround speakers really sound great for both movie content and music content. For such small speakers especially designed for surround speakers I am very happy. They range they put out is surprising and the lack of distortion at both low and high volumes is excellent.

The room they are in is approximately 15X20 and the set up is very appropriate for this size.

I am currently using a Pioneer VSX-30 receiver to power these but am about to buy a Pioneer SC-1222-K which, while planned for an entirely different second home theater I plan to hook up to these speakers first to see how they sound through that receiver with the D amp. I also plan to try out the McIntosh XR6 speakers I have been wanting to find a use for vs the CF-30's which while about as different as speakers can get in both technology and speaker size will be interesting for me.

I really have a lot of confidence in Energy brand speakers after over a year and 3000 hours on the home theater using these speakers.
Excellent in every way including construction and design and even things like the binding posts look high quality on both the Take's and the CF'30's with the ability to bi-amp those but a nice hefty connection in place stock.

I am willing to spend a bit more money on this second system but the components including these speakers have performed so well I am going to have to be careful to actually get higher end components and not just more expensive ones.
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Passing this along in case it helps someone (it's not mine, just saw the listing) - used RC-LCR in black listed for $275 - if you are near the seller in MA for pick-up only:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENERGY-RC-LCR-CENTER-SPEAKER-/281069922305?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item417112a801
post #45023 of 47714
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

Guys i just run my audysy with my rc 70 fronts no center and take classic surrounds. Which one i need to adjust fronts was set to large Front crossover set to 40hz surround 120hz.subwoofer mode LFE LPF for LFE 120hz

You can leave it as is and see how it sounds. You still just have the Take sub right? Normally the advice would be to reset the fronts to small but the RC-70s may be as good as the little sub. You can also try small / 60hz and see if it sounds better. When you upgrade the sub eventually then the decision calculus changes.

The other settings are just fine.
post #45024 of 47714
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

Since batpig and other denon aficionados seem to regularly visit this thread....does anyone know for sure if multi ch stereo bypasses bass management in the Denons? With all of these speakers, it's hard to just listen to two channel stereo biggrin.gif....trying to decide between Audyssey DSX w/ dolby pl2 music or multi ch stereo. Just wasn't sure if multi ch stereo was effectively running everything as large and bypasing the benefits of xt32.

Yeah, as Afro noted you may be confusing the MultiCH IN analog inputs (which bypass all digital processing) with the MultiCH Stereo surround mode. MultiCH Stereo is a basic digital surround mode that just duplicates the stereo signal to all speakers, it doesn't bypass any of the digital processes (bass management, room EQ, etc).

The only thing to note is that, because it just copies the stereo signal, the bass management used will be what was set for the front L/R mains. So for example if your fronts are set to 60hz and the surrounds at 120hz, when you engage MultiCH Stereo then ALL speakers will effectively have a 60hz crossover.
post #45025 of 47714
Afro - Agree that it would have been nice to get the spikes and plugs - guess I hadn't read enough (and haven't had this caliber of speakers before) as I didn't know to ask about them. Learning curve. Guess I am lucky that I should be okay without as I will be running them on hardwood and my set-up is angled in a corner of my living room so there is enough (angled) distance behind the speakers to avoid any boominess.

The 1612 turned out better than I thought, it was listed as an open box for $85 but turned out to be NIB for $100. Wish it was a 1712 but for the price not complaining at all and it will make a fine bedroom AVR in the future.

Alas my Rotel is no more, I would have loved to see how it would have sounded with the RC70s as well. It survived much abuse and many years of teaching me how to set things up 'right'.

Thanks for the greeting, look forward to learning more!
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Originally Posted by Steelsnow View Post

Passing this along in case it helps someone (it's not mine, just saw the listing) - used RC-LCR in black listed for $275 - if you are near the seller in MA for pick-up only:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENERGY-RC-LCR-CENTER-SPEAKER-/281069922305?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item417112a801
Wondering if this unit can be ship in nyc?
post #45027 of 47714
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

Wondering if this unit can be ship in nyc?

You will have to ask the person selling it...
post #45028 of 47714
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Originally Posted by xftman View Post

That's for one RC10.

No, it was for a pair.

From the description...
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Owned for 3 years. Never blasted, broken in according to ENERGY guidelines using Frank Sinatra. In beautiful condition. Only one small ding on one of the speakers.

That would mean there is more than one speaker.
post #45029 of 47714
hey guys there is someone selling a Energy Connoisseur 5.1 Speaker setup for $500 in the classified section.

he have a center and the surrounds.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460087/energy-connoisseur-5-1-speaker-setup

This speakers are the predecessors of RC .
post #45030 of 47714
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Originally Posted by Steelsnow View Post

Passing this along in case it helps someone (it's not mine, just saw the listing) - used RC-LCR in black listed for $275 - if you are near the seller in MA for pick-up only:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENERGY-RC-LCR-CENTER-SPEAKER-/281069922305?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item417112a801

He also has a pair of RC-50's as well: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-RC50-Reference-Connoisseur-Series-Tower-Loudspeaker-PAIR-BLACK-ASH-/281069916680?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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