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post #45031 of 47729
2/25/13 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Yeah, as Afro noted you may be confusing the MultiCH IN analog inputs (which bypass all digital processing) with the MultiCH Stereo surround mode. MultiCH Stereo is a basic digital surround mode that just duplicates the stereo signal to all speakers, it doesn't bypass any of the digital processes (bass management, room EQ, etc).

The only thing to note is that, because it just copies the stereo signal, the bass management used will be what was set for the front L/R mains. So for example if your fronts are set to 60hz and the surrounds at 120hz, when you engage MultiCH Stereo then ALL speakers will effectively have a 60hz crossover.

Well that is VERY good to know....I'd pretty much decided I liked MultiCH surround for listening to music over regular two channel stereo. But I had my crossovers set up exactly like your example; 60hz for the six rc70s and 120hz for heights (bookshelves). Now I don't know if I want to use that surround mode as I would need to raise the crossovers to at least 80hz for the 70s to protect the bookshelves tongue.gif Don't want to be putting reference level spls through there @ 60 hz crossover...think that might be a bit much for them.

Appreciate the additional info!
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post #45032 of 47729
2/25/13 at 6:42am
If you like the "wraparound" effect of MultiCH Stereo try using PLII Music and turning the "Panorama" setting on.
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post #45033 of 47729
2/25/13 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you like the "wraparound" effect of MultiCH Stereo try using PLII Music and turning the "Panorama" setting on.

I'll give this a try...thx for the suggestion.
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post #45034 of 47729
2/25/13 at 7:12am
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But I had my crossovers set up exactly like your example; 60hz for the six rc70s and 120hz for heights (bookshelves).

How many speakers do yo have in this system? That's eight right there. What receiver are you using?
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post #45035 of 47729
2/25/13 at 8:34am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you like the "wraparound" effect of MultiCH Stereo try using PLII Music and turning the "Panorama" setting on.
If the front towers were set to full range in Stereo, but would need to be bumped up to a higher cross over frequency in Multi Ch Stereo , is there any easy way to save and switch the cross over settings also between Stereo mode and Multi Ch Stereo mode. Or do the crossover settings have to be changed, everytime the mode is changed?
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post #45036 of 47729
2/25/13 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

How many speakers do yo have in this system? That's eight right there. What receiver are you using?

It's a 9.2 system right now....expanding to the full 11.2 once I grab an XPA2 or 3. AVR is a 4311.
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post #45037 of 47729
2/25/13 at 9:41am
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Well that is VERY good to know....I'd pretty much decided I liked MultiCH surround for listening to music over regular two channel stereo. But I had my crossovers set up exactly like your example; 60hz for the six rc70s and 120hz for heights (bookshelves). Now I don't know if I want to use that surround mode as I would need to raise the crossovers to at least 80hz for the 70s to protect the bookshelves tongue.gif Don't want to be putting reference level spls through there @ 60 hz crossover...think that might be a bit much for them.

Appreciate the additional info!

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you like the "wraparound" effect of MultiCH Stereo try using PLII Music and turning the "Panorama" setting on.

I am also a big fan of listening to music while using the various surround modes. I enjoy listening to Pandora (via my Blu-ray player) and my CD changers using Dolby PLIIX: Game or DTS Neo: 6 Music surround modes provided by my Marantz SR7005 AVR.
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post #45038 of 47729
2/25/13 at 10:12am
Okay I'm still debating between the Marantz NR 1402 and Marantz NR 1403. what is are the difference here between this 2?

It said that 1403 have a 32bit SHARC processor. The spec on Marantz are very confusing do the 1402 have that processor? Is there any difference in sound quality I guess yes but not sure about all this Marantz spec ,I will like batpig to answer this and help me decide but I can tell his been a little busy haven see him much around here.

Batpig help!!!!biggrin.gif


I guess I will have do a research about Marantz.
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post #45039 of 47729
2/25/13 at 10:14am
For the price of the 1403 why not get a Refurbed or used Onkyo 709? It's got pre outs biggrin.gif
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post #45040 of 47729
2/25/13 at 10:50am
Don't like the sound of onkyo. I was a previous owner of onkyo then I switch to denon and since that never turn back to onkyo , also I need small or slim Av receiver for my bedroom to use with the veritas minis.
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post #45041 of 47729
2/25/13 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Okay I'm still debating between the Marantz NR 1402 and Marantz NR 1403. what is are the difference here between this 2?

It said that 1403 have a 32bit SHARC processor. The spec on Marantz are very confusing do the 1402 have that processor? Is there any difference in sound quality I guess yes but not sure about all this Marantz spec ,I will like batpig to answer this and help me decide but I can tell his been a little busy haven see him much around here.

Batpig help!!!!biggrin.gif


I guess I will have do a research about Marantz.

The obvious differences can be seen on the back panel.






NR1402
2 component video inputs, 1 out.
4 HDMI inputs


NR1403
no component video inputs/outputs
5 HDMI inputs and also one on the front for a total of 6.
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post #45042 of 47729
2/25/13 at 11:51am
What about the 32bit SHARC processor do both have that ?I see it in the 1403 spec from audio advisor but I don't see it on Marantz website their writing spec are awful.is hard to compared then from their website spec.
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post #45043 of 47729
2/25/13 at 12:05pm
Has the Veritas (V) line been discontinued as well?
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post #45044 of 47729
2/25/13 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

Has the Veritas (V) line been discontinued as well?


Yes they discontinued the veritas v a year ago.
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post #45045 of 47729
2/25/13 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Okay I'm still debating between the Marantz NR 1402 and Marantz NR 1403. what is are the difference here between this 2?

It said that 1403 have a 32bit SHARC processor. The spec on Marantz are very confusing do the 1402 have that processor? Is there any difference in sound quality I guess yes but not sure about all this Marantz spec ,I will like batpig to answer this and help me decide but I can tell his been a little busy haven see him much around here.

Batpig help!!!!biggrin.gif


I guess I will have do a research about Marantz.

The obvious differences can be seen on the back panel.



NR1402
2 component video inputs, 1 out.
4 HDMI inputs


NR1403
no component video inputs/outputs
5 HDMI inputs and also one on the front for a total of 6.


okay thanks it is exactly like you said, I call marantz to make sure and both have the same processor .but really what a mess with their spec both have the 32bit SHARC processor but audio advisor post that spec just in the 1403 wink.gif and if I go to other sites I get more confused, so the best thing to do is to look at the pictures!!!! Thanks afrogt!!!! Those are the only changes biggrin.gif

Is very tricky because there is a lot of price difference between the 02 and 03 and they just offer the same but just a couple of less inputs? rolleyes.gif even more it looks like the 02 is a better purchase it offer 2 components video in and 1 out the newer version no components but a extra hdmi rolleyes.gif
Edited by losservatore - 2/25/13 at 12:44pm
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post #45046 of 47729
2/25/13 at 12:41pm
Hi - looking for some opinions. I recently picked up a couple of like new/open box Veritas V-minis for about 1/3 their normal selling price here in Canada. Looking to use them in a bedroom setup.

The bedroom TV is housed inside an armoire, and this is where the speakers will live also. (Aside: the armoire is in a corner, say 45 degree angle to the seat - ie. the bed - and there is a large window opposite the bed, so you can't move the armoire or center the tv, so i don't think I can ever get a "proper" setup of the front soundstage in this application)

Wondering what people think about using a 3rd Veritas V-mini as a center, rather than the "proper" center channel (cost is a factor, but also not sure whether I can fit the center and both speakers in the cabinet)? Do I even need a center in this application?

What would you recommend to power this - an AVR or an integrated amp? (I don't particularly need the tuner aspect of an AVR, but don't really know much about integrated's) Have been thinking about a Denon AVR as I've heard/read these play well with Energy speakers, but I'm not officially set on anything. (FWIW, my AVR in my main setup is a Yamaha).


Thanks.
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post #45047 of 47729
2/25/13 at 2:16pm
i just bought the Marantz NR 1402 for $249 ,it was for $269 for some time and also today but while I was looking first at the manual online to make sure of all the features this receiver have, after finishing reading ,finally decide to purchase it and suddenly the price went down to $250.


If some one is looking for a slim av receiver for $250 here is the chance.

here is the direct link...

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=1MANR1402
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post #45048 of 47729
2/25/13 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Yes they discontinued the veritas v a year ago.

Sigh. So are there any alternatives that make a reasonable replacement for the RC line or the V line, for pairing with Energy stuff?

My den set up (1st floor) is now stocked 5.1 with RC-70s for mains, RC-LCR, and a pair of Mirage Omnican 65s for the surrounds, along with a VSW-10 sub.

I'm finishing my basement this year, and plan to move the RC-70's down there to go with some other Energy speakers acquired on decent sales over the last year. But the question is, what should I put up in my den (12'x16') to replace them, that will match the remaining speakers? I like the Energy stuff. The upstairs den doesn't have to sound quite as good as now, as the basement will take over for as close as I get to critical listening. But I'm gonna have to still like it, as it will still be used regularly.

I had thought about getting some new RC-10s, (though they just seem so small) and then you can't really get them new anymore.

As for price, my wife would prefer I spent under $200, I'm ok with $300, and so even though the $600 for another set of 70s was a tremendous bargain, it would not have been an easy pill to swallow, but, but but... possibly doable. Similarly with the V6.2, (or V6.3 if some un-foretold magic sale were to happen). My wife definitely doesn't want me spending money on any more speakers before the basement's done (prolly about 6 months), another reason why I'm in this predicament, LOL.

Maybe I should just switch brands for the front 3, and part out my RC-LCR to a deserving soul here :-).

Thanks for your suggestions,

Dan
Edited by Dan__ - 2/25/13 at 3:19pm
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post #45049 of 47729
2/25/13 at 4:15pm
The best alternative that I have found so far for surrounds with energy are the mirage omnipolar speakers.They are also discontinued but you can still found then.

They are way better than using direct radiating speakers for surround.
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post #45050 of 47729
2/25/13 at 4:59pm
Losservatore, let me know how you like the marantz nr-1402. I too am considering buying a 1402 or 1403 or another tv stand to accomadate my veritas v5.2 center channel speaker. I have my eye on a legends tv stand sold at wayfair.com. Does the demo model listed have a warranty? Thanks.
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post #45051 of 47729
2/25/13 at 5:52pm
Ending today, wwstereo.com has the energy veritas mini 5.0 reference home theater set for $349 with code MEGADEALNEWS. I picked up the omnimount silhouette TV stand for $250 solving my problem of how to store my energy veritas v5.2.
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post #45052 of 47729
2/25/13 at 5:52pm
Demo models come with full mfrs warranty from Audio Advisor.
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post #45053 of 47729
2/25/13 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by mmbuckwa View Post

Ending today, wwstereo.com has the energy veritas mini 5.0 reference home theater set for $349 with code MEGADEALNEWS. I picked up the omnimount silhouette TV stand for $250 solving my problem of how to store my energy veritas v5.2.
Wow that's an amazing price. In Canada, Futureshop has the center speaker for $200 and the bookshelves for $140 each - and those are the "on sale" prices.
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post #45054 of 47729
2/25/13 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

Sigh. So are there any alternatives that make a reasonable replacement for the RC line or the V line, for pairing with Energy stuff?

My den set up (1st floor) is now stocked 5.1 with RC-70s for mains, RC-LCR, and a pair of Mirage Omnican 65s for the surrounds, along with a VSW-10 sub.

I'm finishing my basement this year, and plan to move the RC-70's down there to go with some other Energy speakers acquired on decent sales over the last year. But the question is, what should I put up in my den (12'x16') to replace them, that will match the remaining speakers? I like the Energy stuff. The upstairs den doesn't have to sound quite as good as now, as the basement will take over for as close as I get to critical listening. But I'm gonna have to still like it, as it will still be used regularly.

I had thought about getting some new RC-10s, (though they just seem so small) and then you can't really get them new anymore.

As for price, my wife would prefer I spent under $200, I'm ok with $300, and so even though the $600 for another set of 70s was a tremendous bargain, it would not have been an easy pill to swallow, but, but but... possibly doable. Similarly with the V6.2, (or V6.3 if some un-foretold magic sale were to happen). My wife definitely doesn't want me spending money on any more speakers before the basement's done (prolly about 6 months), another reason why I'm in this predicament, LOL.

Maybe I should just switch brands for the front 3, and part out my RC-LCR to a deserving soul here :-).

Thanks for your suggestions,

Dan

Call me nuts but I think the V5.2C is such a good match for the RC-70's that the RC-LCR is still sitting under my desk waiting to get hooked up. They're also hands down, far more pretty which is why now, despite only buying it initially to hold me over until I could source a LCR, I don't think i'm going to be able to part ways with it.

If you can still get a black V5.2C and don't mind that it's not timber matched, i'd try to pick one of these up for some RC-70's if you go that route.

(cue in the timber matching and professional review comments)
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post #45055 of 47729
2/25/13 at 7:23pm
Losservatore - I am considering these for my rc70s and v5.2c. Do you they would be good for 4 surrounds? That's a good price since rc10s and rc-rs are so pricey right now. Thanks!
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post #45056 of 47729
2/25/13 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by mmbuckwa View Post

Ending today, wwstereo.com has the energy veritas mini 5.0 reference home theater set for $349 with code MEGADEALNEWS. I picked up the omnimount silhouette TV stand for $250 solving my problem of how to store my energy veritas v5.2.

thanks.. i am in an apartment with 2xRC70, 2xRC30, 2xRC10, RC-LCR already, and bought these 5.0 Mini Veritas. in hope that i will use sometime in future.. signs of madness, or plain far-sightedness? time will tell.. yet to share this news with wife..
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post #45057 of 47729
2/25/13 at 7:45pm
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Wow that's an amazing price. In Canada, Futureshop has the center speaker for $200 and the bookshelves for $140 each - and those are the "on sale" prices.

With Mr Rebates link through and CC rebate, $331.55 delivered, stupid good price.
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post #45058 of 47729
2/25/13 at 8:39pm
Looks like the v-mini cc drops to $99 with that code.
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post #45059 of 47729
2/25/13 at 8:59pm
It works on the bookshelves too. 1 minute to go.....Drops the price to $79.
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post #45060 of 47729
2/25/13 at 9:34pm
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

I also order one package!!! this is the second package in less than 2 weeks.

If I remember correctly, you said the finish on the mini's is different from the towers correct? I thought I read that, just trying to make sure.
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