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post #45421 of 47662
3/4/13 at 8:58am
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Hi Guys,

I have the RC-10's, a RC-LCR and some mini RC's (surround) in my HT setup. I recently replaced the RC-10's to some RC-50 thanks to a great deal found on Craigslist (Thanks Fry's!!). While changing out the speakers, I noticed that the tweeters in my RC-10's were dented/pushed in. The same goes for my mini's. I keep the grill off my speakers (love the look) and assume my kids got their curios paws on them. I have a couple of questions. How can I tell if my speakers have been affected by the dented tweeters? Can replacement tweeters still be found? If so, where and what's the approximate cost? If replacements can't be found, I've read that you can use a vacuum to try to suck them back out. Anyone tried this, does it work? Are there any other solutions you can recommend? Thanks
can you please take a pic of your dented tweeter?
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post #45422 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by pboy207 View Post

Hi Guys,

I have the RC-10's, a RC-LCR and some mini RC's (surround) in my HT setup. I recently replaced the RC-10's to some RC-50 thanks to a great deal found on Craigslist (Thanks Fry's!!). While changing out the speakers, I noticed that the tweeters in my RC-10's were dented/pushed in. The same goes for my mini's. I keep the grill off my speakers (love the look) and assume my kids got their curios paws on them. I have a couple of questions. How can I tell if my speakers have been affected by the dented tweeters? Can replacement tweeters still be found? If so, where and what's the approximate cost? If replacements can't be found, I've read that you can use a vacuum to try to suck them back out. Anyone tried this, does it work? Are there any other solutions you can recommend? Thanks

You can put something over the vacuum like a piece of paper towel on the end of the wand part - to reduce suction. Or just get some duct tape and make your fingers sticky with it and gentry press against the speaker. I have a couple of old speakers with dented tweeters. I will try those methods now and post again with the results shortly.
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post #45423 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:09am
The vacuum thing sounds like bs to me. I would be very careful if you try it.
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post #45424 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

can you please take a pic of your dented tweeter?

I can take a pic when I get home later.

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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

You can put something over the vacuum like a piece of paper towel on the end of the wand part - to reduce suction. Or just get some duct tape and make your fingers sticky with it and gentry press against the speaker. I have a couple of old speakers with dented tweeters. I will try those methods now and post again with the results shortly.

Thanks. Please let me know your results.
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The vacuum thing sounds like bs to me. I would be very careful if you try it.

I don't know if its bs, some ppl says using a shop vac works. I'm just concerned about causing further damage. That's I wanted to know if folks here have tried this method.
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post #45425 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:20am
that's the whole problem with metal tweeters, they will dent and even if you can manage to pull them out, there's likely to be permanent creases. You can certain ask about replacement tweeters if you want to resell them, and usually they aren't expensive, but I don't have any experience with getting Energy aftermarket parts in a long time.
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post #45426 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

You can put something over the vacuum like a piece of paper towel on the end of the wand part - to reduce suction. Or just get some duct tape and make your fingers sticky with it and gentry press against the speaker. I have a couple of old speakers with dented tweeters. I will try those methods now and post again with the results shortly.
No offense with the vacuum is probably bs post. We were posting at the same time.
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post #45427 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:24am
I just cant imagine being able to pull a dent out of a piece of aluminum with a vacuum. It would have to be thinner than paper. But...we shall see.
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post #45428 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

No offense with the vacuum is probably bs post. We were posting at the same time.

No problem. I had 2 dents. One with a metal tweeter and neither of my methods worked - duct tape or vacuum. Metal is too strong even for a dyson :-) I did have success on the rubbery type woofer on the speaker which was also dented. The vacuum with a thin cloth over it worked right away with no damage. If they are metal with any thickness you might be out of luck. Sorry, I tried...I agree with Warpdrive - getting new tweeters would be the best bet if possible.
Edited by eah9 - 3/4/13 at 9:35am
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post #45429 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

No problem. I had 2 dents. One with a metal tweeter and neither of my methods worked - duct tape or vacuum. Metal is too strong even for a dyson :-) I did have success on the rubbery type woofer on the speaker which was also dented. The vacuum with a thin cloth over it worked right away with no damage. If they are metal you might be out of luck. Sorry, I tried...
I have done a fair amount of metal work in my time and aluminum is much stronger than most people think. When I said it would have to be thinner than paper I meant it and even then probably much thinner for a vacuum to pop it out. And the dome shape is a strong shape. Think of an egg and how strong an egg is even though the shell is very thin. Unless you impact it, then we all know what happens. Omelets. smile.gif
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post #45430 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I have done a fair amount of metal work in my time and aluminum is much stronger than most people think. When I said it would have to be thinner than paper I meant it and even then probably much thinner for a vacuum to pop it out. And the dome shape is a strong shape. Think of an egg and how strong an egg is even though the shell is very thin. Unless you impact it, then we all know what happens. Omelets. smile.gif


Agreed. AT least I got my woofer fixed and I didn't care about these tweeters - so no harm in trying for me. FYI - I updated my earlier post.
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post #45431 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Agreed. AT least I got my woofer fixed and I didn't care about these tweeters - so no harm in trying for me. FYI - I updated my earlier post.
Thats great that you got the woofer fixed. smile.gif
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post #45432 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:46am
Last week I pulled the trigger on that good Energy V-mini myself and have been patiently waiting for shipping confirmation. I called to follow up and had a strange encounter maybe some of you can shed some light on.

After the wwstereo guy pulled up my order he said he needed to verify ALL my payment information due to the "high cost of the order". I personally don't think $350 is very high for some speakers. When I asked why he doesn't get the info right out of his computer he said he is unable to view it. Thn he seemed annoyed hen I asked why I should give him my payment info if his company doesn't want to see it. I. The end I gave him the info after I got his name, knowing I am protected against fraud activity anyway.

The strange things about this are:
1. Nothing in their site mentions reverification of payment info for "high cost" orders
2. It took me calling them to find this out. Who knows how long my order would be sitting there if I hadn't called.
3. Why do they have to ask for my payment info again after they already have it?

Anyone else ordering from wwstereo that can comment on this or at least tell me this is really normal would be appreciated.
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post #45433 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

How would you guys compare the veritas v mini 5.0 to this?
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Quintet-Theater-System-Black/dp/B0011YZ018/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

I'd much rather have the Mini's. Not a fan of the Klipsch horn tweeters, I get annoyed pretty quickly listening to the them. Way too bright sounding for my tastes.
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post #45434 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by Allen Fleury View Post

Last week I pulled the trigger on that good Energy V-mini myself and have been patiently waiting for shipping confirmation. I called to follow up and had a strange encounter maybe some of you can shed some light on.

After the wwstereo guy pulled up my order he said he needed to verify ALL my payment information due to the "high cost of the order". I personally don't think $350 is very high for some speakers. When I asked why he doesn't get the info right out of his computer he said he is unable to view it. Thn he seemed annoyed hen I asked why I should give him my payment info if his company doesn't want to see it. I. The end I gave him the info after I got his name, knowing I am protected against fraud activity anyway.

The strange things about this are:
1. Nothing in their site mentions reverification of payment info for "high cost" orders
2. It took me calling them to find this out. Who knows how long my order would be sitting there if I hadn't called.
3. Why do they have to ask for my payment info again after they already have it?

Anyone else ordering from wwstereo that can comment on this or at least tell me this is really normal would be appreciated.

I've ordered a few things from WWstereo but never had this problem. My orders were single items though and never amounted to $350 which really isn't that much for audio equipment when you think about it.
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post #45435 of 47662
3/4/13 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by Allen Fleury View Post

Last week I pulled the trigger on that good Energy V-mini myself and have been patiently waiting for shipping confirmation. I called to follow up and had a strange encounter maybe some of you can shed some light on.

After the wwstereo guy pulled up my order he said he needed to verify ALL my payment information due to the "high cost of the order". I personally don't think $350 is very high for some speakers. When I asked why he doesn't get the info right out of his computer he said he is unable to view it. Thn he seemed annoyed hen I asked why I should give him my payment info if his company doesn't want to see it. I. The end I gave him the info after I got his name, knowing I am protected against fraud activity anyway.

The strange things about this are:
1. Nothing in their site mentions reverification of payment info for "high cost" orders
2. It took me calling them to find this out. Who knows how long my order would be sitting there if I hadn't called.
3. Why do they have to ask for my payment info again after they already have it?

Anyone else ordering from wwstereo that can comment on this or at least tell me this is really normal would be appreciated.

They did the same thing for me but they called me first to get validation (the day after my order).
They are a reputable company. No worries.

I think they have an extra step to protect against fraud, that's all. Maybe they just forgot to call you or had some miscommunication on that front.
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post #45436 of 47662
3/4/13 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by warpdrive View Post

that's the whole problem with metal tweeters, they will dent and even if you can manage to pull them out, there's likely to be permanent creases. You can certain ask about replacement tweeters if you want to resell them, and usually they aren't expensive, but I don't have any experience with getting Energy aftermarket parts in a long time.

Thanks for the response. I will try to get replacement tweeters. Hopefully, they are still available. From what I can gather from researching, they seem to be $50/ each. Not bad for one, but considering I will need 4 replacements, it will turn out to be a costly fix.

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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

No problem. I had 2 dents. One with a metal tweeter and neither of my methods worked - duct tape or vacuum. Metal is too strong even for a dyson :-) I did have success on the rubbery type woofer on the speaker which was also dented. The vacuum with a thin cloth over it worked right away with no damage. If they are metal with any thickness you might be out of luck. Sorry, I tried...I agree with Warpdrive - getting new tweeters would be the best bet if possible.

Thanks for checking!! I will try to get some replacement tweeters. Unfortunately Klipsch/Energy is doing some kind of inventory so there system is down for a couple of days and they are unable to tell me if they have any tweeters available. If I am able to get the replacements, I can try the vacuum thing to see if it works as I will have backup tweeters in case of anything.
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post #45437 of 47662
3/4/13 at 10:52am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Completely agree. 2 of the 3 ways are my front heights. My bigger concern is replacing my surrounds with the v minis. I dont think the difference is nearly as much with these.
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KB15-2-Way-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00AS3X740/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362366563&sr=1-1&keywords=klipsch+kb15
I dont want to get the veritas 5.0 package unless I can replace all 4 of the speakers in question and get a significantly better sound.
Thoughts?

So wait, what speakers do you have and what way are you wanting to upgrade?

Are you wanting to add heights and surrounds? The V-mini 5.0 pack is $350 and that Klipsch pair is $300... seems like getting 5 better quality speakers for $50 more than 2 is a huge deal.

If you were looking to sell some of the V-minis or V-mini center (if you weren't wanting to use them all) you could easily find a buyer to take some off your hands.
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post #45438 of 47662
3/4/13 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

So wait, what speakers do you have and what way are you wanting to upgrade?

Are you wanting to add heights and surrounds? The V-mini 5.0 pack is $350 and that Klipsch pair is $300... seems like getting 5 better quality speakers for $50 more than 2 is a huge deal.

If you were looking to sell some of the V-minis or V-mini center (if you weren't wanting to use them all) you could easily find a buyer to take some off your hands.

And I found the deal can be used for individual speakers - at least it was a week ago or so....The mini bookshelves I got were $79 each. A good deal if you don't need a full set. Limited to the rosenut color I believe now.
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post #45439 of 47662
3/4/13 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by Allen Fleury View Post

Last week I pulled the trigger on that good Energy V-mini myself and have been patiently waiting for shipping confirmation. I called to follow up and had a strange encounter maybe some of you can shed some light on.

After the wwstereo guy pulled up my order he said he needed to verify ALL my payment information due to the "high cost of the order". I personally don't think $350 is very high for some speakers. When I asked why he doesn't get the info right out of his computer he said he is unable to view it. Thn he seemed annoyed hen I asked why I should give him my payment info if his company doesn't want to see it. I. The end I gave him the info after I got his name, knowing I am protected against fraud activity anyway.

The strange things about this are:
1. Nothing in their site mentions reverification of payment info for "high cost" orders
2. It took me calling them to find this out. Who knows how long my order would be sitting there if I hadn't called.
3. Why do they have to ask for my payment info again after they already have it?

Anyone else ordering from wwstereo that can comment on this or at least tell me this is really normal would be appreciated.

if you register under your name and pay with your wife credit card they will hold the payment or vice versa.

also if the address or phone number or any other info doesn't match the credit card they will hold the purchase.

make sure everything is updated on you credit card some online stores are very careful with that.
Edited by losservatore - 3/4/13 at 12:39pm
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post #45440 of 47662
3/4/13 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

So wait, what speakers do you have and what way are you wanting to upgrade?

Are you wanting to add heights and surrounds? The V-mini 5.0 pack is $350 and that Klipsch pair is $300... seems like getting 5 better quality speakers for $50 more than 2 is a huge deal.

If you were looking to sell some of the V-minis or V-mini center (if you weren't wanting to use them all) you could easily find a buyer to take some off your hands.
Sorry about the confusion. This is my situation. I am using 2 of the larger quintet sl as front heights
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Quintet-Theater-System-Black/dp/B0011YZ018/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362433396&sr=1-1&keywords=klipsch+quintet+sl
and 2 of the KB15 as rear surrounds:
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KB15-2-Way-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00AS3X740/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362433639&sr=1-1&keywords=klipsch+kb15
My question is would I get a significant upgrade in sound quality by getting the veritas mini 5.0 package and using the 4 bookshelf speakers as rear surround and front heights in place of the 2 different types of Klipsch. I will just hold on to the center which would be just about free considering if I buy 4 of the bookshelves it is about the same price as the 5.0 package. I also dont want to split up my front 3. My front 3 are 2 Klipsch Icon VF36 towers and a Bic PL26 center.
As Im typing this I get the feeling that this is a stupid idea but there it is. I am actually happy with what I have but I thought that the veritas package is such a great deal maybe I can use it somehow. I know that the vmini will sound better than the quintet sl but I doubt they will sound better than the KB15. Thats why I havent done it already. And if I just get 2 bookshelf then that pretty much negates the great deal and then I have 2 speakers that dont sound match everything else. So I figure 4 of them or nothing.
Make ANY sense?
BTW I listen to music probably 90% of the time. If this was just for movies I would never consider going through the trouble.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/4/13 at 2:13pm
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post #45441 of 47662
3/4/13 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by jmac2000 View Post

Hey guys, I need a little help diagnosing a problem in my AV system. Here's the info...

Within the last week I've noticed I need to turn my volume up to about -20dB to hear the dialogue in TV and movies. Before that I was more likely to listen at about -35dB. The only recent change in the system is that I grabbed the RC70 deal from Fry's and I'm running them in 2.0 for music in zone 2. The rest of the system is as follows: 4x RC10, RCLCR, HSU STF-2. Receiver is a Denon 2112.

Could the zone 2 speakers be drawing power away from the main amps? BTW both zones are never on at the same time.

Could I be going deaf after over-enjoying these RC70s? cool.gif

I thought it might be something with Audyssey (dynamic EQ, dynamic volume, reference level offset). However, I can't for the life of me figure out how to tweak these settings! Any changes I try to make on the denon iphone/ipad app don't stick (any changes automatically switch right back to the default). Within the actual Denon GUI I can't even find these Audyssey options.

Any ideas or advice would be much appreciated!

Cheers and happy listening!
Jamus

Hi Jamus,

To me, this definitely sounds like an issue with Audyssey Dynamic Volume. Not sure why you can't get the setting changes to stick....did you recently re-calibrate, perhaps after receiving the 70s?

The zone 2 speakers are definitely not "drawing away" power from the primary system.

When you hit "menu" on the Denon remote, in the first layer of commands on the 2112, there should be an icon similar to the look of the Audyssey mic. Here you can make adjustments to Dynamic EQ & Volume as well as seee the initial trim level settings for the speakers, post-calibration. Check these against your current levels and see if you somehow might've accidentally trimmed levels down too far. Also, "ping" all of your speakers with the pink noise in the channel level menu just to be sure everything is hooked up properly .

Good luck!
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post #45442 of 47662
3/4/13 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Sorry about the confusion. This is my situation. I am using 2 of the larger quintet sl as front heights
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Quintet-Theater-System-Black/dp/B0011YZ018/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362433396&sr=1-1&keywords=klipsch+quintet+sl
and 2 of the KB15 as rear surrounds:
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KB15-2-Way-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00AS3X740/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362433639&sr=1-1&keywords=klipsch+kb15
My question is would I get a significant upgrade in sound quality by getting the veritas mini 5.0 package and using the 4 bookshelf speakers as rear surround and front heights in place of the 2 different types of Klipsch. I will just hold on to the center which would be just about free considering if I buy 4 of the bookshelves it is about the same price as the 5.0 package. I also dont want to split up my front 3. My front 3 are 2 Klipsch Icon VF36 towers and a Bic PL26 center.
As Im typing this I get the feeling that this is a stupid idea but there it is. I am actually happy with what I have but I thought that the veritas package is such a great deal maybe I can use it somehow. I know that the vmini will sound better than the quintet sl but I doubt they will sound better than the KB15. Thats why I havent done it already. And if I just get 2 bookshelf then that pretty much negates the great deal and then I have 2 speakers that dont sound match everything else. So I figure 4 of them or nothing.
Make ANY sense?
BTW I listen to music probably 90% of the time. If this was just for movies I would never consider going through the trouble.

Well, considering you would only be using the v-mini for duties that aren't that prevalent in music or movies. I think the Veritas would allow for more precise hits for music (as switching from the Energy C series to RC series showed me), BUT paying another $350 for speakers you don't necessarily need might be a bit crazy smile.gif Don't worry I was thinking of getting that pack too even though I can't afford it and definitely don't need it haha
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post #45443 of 47662
3/4/13 at 2:49pm
The more I look the more unlikely it seems that I will find the RC-LCR on ebay for a decent price. I heard some say the V-5.2c was a good match and others say it is not really a tonal match. I know difference in tonal match will matter with music but what about home theater?

Also one of my RC-70's has the top 6.5inch woofer touching the cone. The top photo is of the right speaker (the one that is touching the woofer) and the bottom one is of the left speaker. I included both photos so there is a comparison. Will this affect performance? Should I contact Energy?

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post #45444 of 47662
3/4/13 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Well, considering you would only be using the v-mini for duties that aren't that prevalent in music or movies. I think the Veritas would allow for more precise hits for music (as switching from the Energy C series to RC series showed me), BUT paying another $350 for speakers you don't necessarily need might be a bit crazy smile.gif Don't worry I was thinking of getting that pack too even though I can't afford it and definitely don't need it haha
Thanks for the input. I listen to music in 7 ch Stereo most of the time so the rears and front heights actually play a pretty significant part. Part of the problem is that I can easily afford it. I just definitely dont need it. I know its a super deal. If I thought I could make use of it down the road I would buy them and put them in the closet for now. But I really cant imagine ever giving them a real purpose.
It would make a hell of a Christmas present! smile.gif Hmmm....
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/4/13 at 3:19pm
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post #45445 of 47662
3/4/13 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

The more I look the more unlikely it seems that I will find the RC-LCR on ebay for a decent price. I heard some say the V-5.2c was a good match and others say it is not really a tonal match. I know difference in tonal match will matter with music but what about home theater?

Also one of my RC-70's has the top 6.5inch woofer touching the cone. The top photo is of the right speaker (the one that is touching the woofer) and the bottom one is of the left speaker. I included both photos so there is a comparison. Will this affect performance? Should I contact Energy?



They look the same
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post #45446 of 47662
3/4/13 at 3:48pm
wwstereo has 1 black V5.2 for sale 249.99 free shipping. Its listed on their ebay account. Didnt see it on their store website though. Probally
just wanting to get rid of the one remaining speaker.
Edited by baron2 - 3/4/13 at 3:57pm
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post #45447 of 47662
3/4/13 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Thanks for the input. I listen to music in 7 ch Stereo most of the time so the rears and front heights actually play a pretty significant part. Part of the problem is that I can easily afford it. I just definitely dont need it. I know its a super deal. If I thought I could make use of it down the road I would buy them and put them in the closet for now. But I really cant imagine ever giving them a real purpose.
It would make a hell of a Christmas present! smile.gif Hmmm....

If you can easily afford it, I can't and I could definitely put them to good use now that I think of it smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
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post #45448 of 47662
3/4/13 at 4:00pm
baron2 right now there is not much option for a center ,there is some difference I would said more detail so the detail will help with the dialogue.


I personally like to have the same model all around but the rc-lcr right now is at twice the price of the v5.2.


dont miss the black one, members where wishing for a black one but it wasn't available and they got the piano rosenut so you are the lucky one smile.gif

well if you decide before someone outs read the post biggrin.gif
Edited by losservatore - 3/4/13 at 4:08pm
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post #45449 of 47662
3/4/13 at 4:00pm
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They look the same
Well I took the photo from my Iphone. One of the cones is touching the woofer and was just wondering if it is something to be concerned about. Sorry about the bad photo. The Iphone can't zoom and it will lose focus if too close.
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post #45450 of 47662
3/4/13 at 4:03pm
Porthos01 I have the rc70s and v5.2c. The v5.2c is slightly brighter but I think it's a great match and perfect for music and unreal for ht. I am not an audiophile but am a musician and have a home recording studio. This combo is fantastic on the front 3. I have v minis for surrounds.
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