Energy Owners Thread - Page 1517

Not the V-Mini, but here's a Veritas review if anyone is interested, measurements included: http://www.hometheater.com/content/energy-veritas-v-51-speaker-system

Great find!

Good deal. Thanks.

Welcome

I should have said, the measurements link is on the bottom of the specs page, unlike on their other reviews where it shows up in the TOC menu. Easy to miss.

I agree with him on most part of the review and this are fantastic speakers ,but the part that I dont agree is when he said that they made improvement from the previews veritas generation ,that's noway true and even sound offensive to the fans of the old veritas generation.
Edited by losservatore - 3/4/13 at 10:19pm

I am not as tech savvy as you. I always look at the specs but generally dont pay a lot of attention to measurements unless its something I am considering buying.

There have been quite a few reviews of the new Veritas, not sure how hard you looked.

Here's a few I found pretty easily:

Veritas V-6.3 stereo pair review
Veritas V-6.3 system (V-6.3, V-5.2-C, V-S, V-SW10) review
Veritas V-5.1 system (V-5.1, V-5.2-C, V-S, V-SW10) review
Veritas V-5.1 review

Dont get me wrong they have more clarity than the RCs, but to compare with old veritas!The old veritas have very expensive crossover parts,drivers and heavy duty cabinets ect ect.

Thanks. I only searched for vmini reviews because that was all that I was interested in but Im not the only one that said that reviews were difficult to find. Im sure it will be appreciated.

No, it's only you.

First of all, you are completely wrong that nobody on this thread has reviewed these speakers. Quite a bit of feedback has been posted, although as noted by others, they have sort of suffered by coincidence because (1) they were priced high while other models were on sale and (2) they kind of got buried in the Klipsch then Audiovox transition. When the V-Mini's first came out, the RC-Mini's were available at blowout prices, so tons of people snapped up the RC version and the V-Mini ended up being sort of left out while most of the feedback was for RC (Mini's and full-sized) and the C series.

But several owners on this thread have bought them and posted positive reviews on these speakers. I don't know what your evidence is that "in this entire thread" not a "single person" has posted feedback on these, it's just flat out false.

More importantly, they are essentially the same as the RC-Mini's, for which there are MANY reviews on this thread. Just tons. Again, circumstance helps, as many users jumped on great deals on the RC-Mini's over the years, and so many owners are out there. With this current V-Mini sale, I am sure you will see plenty of positive feedback start trickling in very soon on these models as well.

There is no reason to think the V-Mini's won't be just like the RC-Mini's, which have an established reputation as being among the best "tiny" speakers you can buy. They have much better build quality and driver quality than your typical mini-sat, will play remarkably loud given their size, and with the 4.5" woofer (vs the typical 3.5" woofer in most sat/sub setups) will be able to handle a lower crossover than most tiny sats.

The lack of "professional" reviews also doesn't concern me. Not every speaker gets reviewed, and as already discussed these V-Mini's sort of got lost in the shuffle with the discontinuing of the RC's and the Klipsch/Audiovox buyouts.

Here is a pro review of the RC-Mini by the way: http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/energy_rcmini_s83.htm

By my understanding, a significant part of timbre is frequency response, and Audyssey will try to make any speaker "flat". It can't change some aspects, like speed/attack, distortion, breakup, etc, but can bring mismatched speakers like the RC-LCR ans V5.2 closer than you might expect.
Edited by GoatLocker - 3/4/13 at 9:03pm

even if the tweeters are build differently?

Many thanks Avarice! I ended up doing a restore and this seems to have sorted things out.

If that is 100% right I want that Audyssey version, I guess I have to paid more.

Did you notice a difference in the sound of the tweeters in my video link below?

too bad that I didn't run Audyssey on the speakers but it will be interesting.

Even the lower versions of Audyssey will provide some assistance in timbre matching unlike speakers, although XT32 is of course the best. Even XT does a great job of smoothing out the freq response which goes a long way towards integrating a mismatched system.

Maybe not the details he's looking for, but I posted a few times how impressed I am with the V-mini's especially considering their size. I've had them for a couple months and it really is remarkable the sound they put out from such a small speaker.

When it comes to satellites, I don't think you can do much better. Not only the sound, but the build quality is excellent. They have some mass and you can tell they are built to last.

Again, you've given me some great stuff to ponder over.

I had been wondering regarding the drivers for the different models -- and it's good to have that [although a bit of a downer] answered.

The 2.4i's are being sold for $1,299 by the gentleman I bought my 2.2i's from. So far I've bought the pair of 2.2i's from him, and more recently (about a month or so ago?) a v2.0c and pair of v2.0Ri's. I don't think I'd be able to raise the funds for the 2.4i's anytime soon, unless he did go for the 'upgrade path' proposition. That would put me in a position of having some great speakers -- but especially now that you pointed it out -- also with more drivers to [potentially] fail over time...that might be hard to track down elsewhere.

At the end of the day though, you're right -- the s12.3 is a fine sub, and may blend beautifully once I run Audyssey. The only reason I haven't yet is because I've still to hang the v2.0Ri's, and have a number of framed pictures that may go up in the room as well, and want to run it when everything is in place.

The other night, I also was playing material on PL II music, and I must say -- it did sound pretty darn nice. On certain songs I went back & forth between 2ch direct & PLII Music...but between the two, I may be able to match my 'wants' on a song-by-song basis.
Again though, this is without still having run Audyssey -- things may continue to get better then....we shall see.

I could indeed sell off a LOT of my speakers if I did buy the 2.4i's. Then again, I've been looking to do that anyway -- but SELLING on the used market right now has proven to be a bit slow.
I do have a second room, and I've been going back & forth whether I should just stick with my 'vintage' 5.1e setup in there, or try and keep my 'currently testing' setup in the APS 5+2's / AC-300 center. The only hiccup in that setup is that the C-6's (which would be my surrounds) don't fit on each side of the listening area (a much smaller room), whereas the 2.1e's do. There seems to be a pretty significant sound difference between the two, with the different tweeter...despite them 'just being' surrounds.
Also a factor...I could [theoretically] get a good deal more money on the used market out of the C-8's / C-6's / APS 5+2's / AC-300 than the 5.1e / 2.1e / RVS setup, since the 5.1e setup is so old...which may be incentive enough to keep the 5.1e setup for that room, as they do sound pretty darn good.
Then again, I have no sub in that room...and the APS 5+2's do have the built-in powered subs -- which is quite nice. They are way-overkill in that small room though... even at the 'minimum' distance from the walls those speakers require, the speakers are very close to the sofa.

At least I have options.

Thanks again for the thoughts & info! Anymore info or thoughts by anyone is definitely appreciated and welcomed!
Edited by johnb4467 - 3/4/13 at 11:48pm

Not sure I follow that last sentance. You do realize that there have been no problems with the woofers on the i series? And as far as the Mids, I only ran across one forum that had a guy that had 3 go out but all on one side. He may have had other issues that caused that but there was one other poster that also had the same problem with the 2" Mid speaker. It's your call but you know you'll always wonder what those towers would have sounded like!

Oh, I thought you were just throwing it out there that all the different versions & non-i / i-series use different woofers...so that I should just be cognizant of that when thinking about purchases.
That is what you meant though...yes? I may have misinterpreted.

Haha, and yes...I will indeed always wonder what the beastly 2.4i's would sound like...you evil, evil man! :P

If I run into any luck in selling some of my speakers on craigslist, I may re-approach the gentleman regarding the 'upgrade path' sale. If that were to be agreeable, I think I would go for it -- if I was indeed able to sell a speaker set (or two!) in the meantime, that is.
I just need to make sure I'm not spending foolishly or overly-impulsively!

For you vintage veritas people out there: a v2.0c (non 'i') for only $125!
I just bought mine a month ago for $200.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ele/3646752307.html

I was just sharing what I had found about the woofers. You needn't consider it if you stick with the i series. If you do ever need a new woofer I found pdf files with full specs on a site called speakerbits. You just may find that what you already have may work out for you after dialing in the room correction and sub so let us know how that goes.

Californians always have the best deals when it comes to audio gear on craigslist. You lucky sonofaguns.

He actually lowered the price to $100 already: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ele/3654406147.html

Plus some nice deals on a few other items. Too bad I can't use any of them!

guys, finally i just completed my 5.1 HT system. i got 2 energy RC 70's my fronts, Energy V5.2C as my center, energy V Minis for my surrounds, denon 1612 receiver, and dayton 1200 for my sub. it only cost me everything for $1204. is it a good deal guys?

what do you think?

Consider that full price on this setup would have been $3500-4000. That should be all you need to know

Go pop in a killer Blu-ray and crank it up and let us know what YOU think

Add up the MSRP of those items and i think you will have a good idea of what kind of a deal that is!

Really dude? You've been in the Energy forum long enough to know those are incredible prices.

Congrats and enjoy your system!

I'll never understand the excitement of listening to a video like that.

You're not truly listening to the speakers in question, you're listening to your own computer speakers or whatever you have connected to your computer.

The sound will be colored or limited by what your own speakers can do.

i think it is a good deal! for that set up i have. but before i started this HT thing (aug-sept of last year) my only budget for 5.1 is only $400-500, and i purchased the energy takes 5.0 used it for 5mos. and sold it to my friend for $60, as soon the frys put them on sale (RC 70). to tell you guys the truth i really dont have any idea about speakers at all, i only purchased my RC 70 because when i came on this thread all of the people are talking how this price is so good(i am just going with the flow) and i purchased it. and wow, i didnt regret anything that i ended up $1204 for all my speakers and now me and my wife are enjoying all the beautiful sounds that we havent hear when we have the takes classic. and also thank you for all energy people here on this forum helping out each other. Mabuhay!