Energy Owners Thread - Page 1525

Originally Posted by erhurd 

I forgot to mention that all speakers sit on 28" and 34" Sanus stands (well out the reach of our elderly Siamese cat) in a non-smoking environment with no children.

Originally Posted by ThumbtackJack 

Been a long time Energy owner...still have the RVS, Enocre's, and RC system in my home. I always wanted the Veritas 2.3i but that was out of production when I first got into this hobby so I had to settle on the RC-70s which I really like. I've always wanted a Veritas "statement" type speaker, so a dealer near me offers the Paradigm Reference which he said is actually superior to the Veritas 2.2 line. I've lusted at the Paradigm Ref S6 for a couple years now, but I see now they're almost $6k compared to $4k back in 2007 when I first inquired about them. I've read lots of good things about Paradigm and their "bang for the buck," but I really have to question what kind of value you're getting with them anymore since they've jacked their prices up for both the Studio and Ref lines.

Not sure I have much faith in the Energy brand anymore which really stinks. Since Paradigm is so high in price now, looks like I'll check out PSB.

Originally Posted by erhurd 


You guys are cracking me up!

Thanks MuaySteve and neutro for your replies; you both have provided me with excellent morning entertainment!

Originally Posted by rajdori 

folks, i run RC70, RC10, RC-0LCR setup on my belovedd HK AVR254 receiver. Issue i am facing is with HK AVR254.. but suspecting that some of you may be able to help.., so posting it here as well..

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after three and half wonderful years with HK AVR254, my AVR254 today started to send only garbled low-freq sounds to front channels. Other three channels play normal. this happened after i disconnected AVR254 (to test a friend's new Denon 2113CI.) and re-connected after a couple of hrs.

- I switched front and surround speaker connections at AVR end, the surround speakers that were connected to front channels at AVR-end had same issues. So issue clearly with the receiver's front R and L channels.
- Did factory reset, re-connected all speaker cables.. still same problem.
- Checked speaker connections polarity as well.

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Originally Posted by losservatore 

Did you try back with the denon receiver just in case you didn't blow your speakers.

Originally Posted by rajdori 

no issues with speakers when i connect my Surround channels to front speakers, and played 5Ch stereo.. speakers are fine..

Originally Posted by batpig 

Sounds like the HK went bad. Sucks but it happens.

Originally Posted by ElHalo 

I have a question here that's driving me nuts, and I was wondering if anyone can help me. I just moved apartments, and decided to get rid of my (still great sounding) 25 year old Bose speakers I had been using in my old surround setup, because each of the four surround speakers was roughly 12 inches by 18 inches by 12 inches, and it was just too big for a bedroom setup. I got the Energy Take Classic speakers based on all of the glowing recommendations online, and after having set everything up, I'm totally confused, because either every glowing recommendation is just lying, or I'm doing something wrong, because these speakers are completely useless.

I'm running the speakers out of my Onkyo TX-SR605 receiver, which has absolutely no problems, and has always worked perfectly for me in the past, using brand new 12 gauge speaker wire from Monoprice, with bare stripped wire connections (minor peeve -- the Energy Take Classic binding posts were just barely large enough to accept 12 gauge wire; it took forever to get them all in the connectors). After setting everything up, the sound level was so low that, when watching television, I couldn't make out any dialogue while sitting in bed (about eight feet from the center channel speaker) unless the volume was turned up to literally the maximum level the receiver can put out. It's not a big room I'm trying to fill; maybe 150 square feet. But in order to get barely adequate sound levels, I have to turn the receiver volume up so high that it overheats and shuts itself down within 90 seconds, making the entire setup useless. I swapped out the center channel of the Energy system for my old center channel (a long discontinued Boston Acoustics CRC7), and that helped somewhat, in that I could lower the volume enough to keep the receiver from shutting off so long as I kept a floor-standing fan blowing on it constantly, but almost all the sound is coming out of the center channel, with the left/right fronts and backs barely giving any sound.

I ordered the speakers from Amazon, so I can't return them (have no idea how to go about returning anything purchased online), and I'd rather not throw them out since they're brand new and do, in a technical sense, work. And I know I'm using a 90 wpc amp on speakers that are nominally rated at 100 wpc, but I can't see as that would make a difference, since (assuming I'm setting the receiver's volume level to 50% of its maximum the way I normally would), the speakers would need to be at least ten times louder than they are to be acceptable, if not more. At the same time, I'd rather not spend two thousand dollars on a Wyred 4 Sound Mini MC5 Multi-channel Amplifier just so I can use these speakers I spent a few hundred dollars on.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Originally Posted by enthusiast8 

No offense Energy, but the Paradigm Signature series are amazing speakers. The S2 itself is an amazing speaker if you have the money for it. Have you considered it? Or are you only looking for towers?

Originally Posted by ElHalo 

I have a question here that's driving me nuts, and I was wondering if anyone can help me. I just moved apartments, and decided to get rid of my (still great sounding) 25 year old Bose speakers I had been using in my old surround setup, because each of the four surround speakers was roughly 12 inches by 18 inches by 12 inches, and it was just too big for a bedroom setup. I got the Energy Take Classic speakers based on all of the glowing recommendations online, and after having set everything up, I'm totally confused, because either every glowing recommendation is just lying, or I'm doing something wrong, because these speakers are completely useless.

I'm running the speakers out of my Onkyo TX-SR605 receiver, which has absolutely no problems, and has always worked perfectly for me in the past, using brand new 12 gauge speaker wire from Monoprice, with bare stripped wire connections (minor peeve -- the Energy Take Classic binding posts were just barely large enough to accept 12 gauge wire; it took forever to get them all in the connectors). After setting everything up, the sound level was so low that, when watching television, I couldn't make out any dialogue while sitting in bed (about eight feet from the center channel speaker) unless the volume was turned up to literally the maximum level the receiver can put out. It's not a big room I'm trying to fill; maybe 150 square feet. But in order to get barely adequate sound levels, I have to turn the receiver volume up so high that it overheats and shuts itself down within 90 seconds, making the entire setup useless. I swapped out the center channel of the Energy system for my old center channel (a long discontinued Boston Acoustics CRC7), and that helped somewhat, in that I could lower the volume enough to keep the receiver from shutting off so long as I kept a floor-standing fan blowing on it constantly, but almost all the sound is coming out of the center channel, with the left/right fronts and backs barely giving any sound.

I ordered the speakers from Amazon, so I can't return them (have no idea how to go about returning anything purchased online), and I'd rather not throw them out since they're brand new and do, in a technical sense, work. And I know I'm using a 90 wpc amp on speakers that are nominally rated at 100 wpc, but I can't see as that would make a difference, since (assuming I'm setting the receiver's volume level to 50% of its maximum the way I normally would), the speakers would need to be at least ten times louder than they are to be acceptable, if not more. At the same time, I'd rather not spend two thousand dollars on a Wyred 4 Sound Mini MC5 Multi-channel Amplifier just so I can use these speakers I spent a few hundred dollars on.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Originally Posted by DarkFudge 

Its Ok...im not completely impressed

Originally Posted by kgallerie 

DarkFudge, you simply cannot compare the mini's to the 5.1's. They are completely different animals. If you bought the mini's expecting the same performance of the V5.1's, you were mistaken in your purchase. This guy reviewing the mini's was making the same mistake in comparing them to the V5.1's.

The v-mini's are typically well regarded for their performance with respect to their size. They are small speakers and will never give you the sound stage or the impact that a full size bookshelf or tower speaker will give you.

Originally Posted by Macstatic 

Hey I barely missed out on a Polk PSW-1000 sub that was on my local CL for $125, and now there is an Energy S10.2 for $75 as well.

Originally Posted by Macstatic 

Hey I barely missed out on a Polk PSW-1000 sub that was on my local CL for $125, and now there is an Energy S10.2 for $75 as well. It is a little bit of a drive for me, but wanted to make sure it would be worth it. I have my small Outlaw but I'd like a 2nd sub so that I can either have one sub at HT and one at computer 2.1 setup, OR have 2 subs in either setup.

Originally Posted by Dan__ 

My den set up (1st floor) is now stocked 5.1 with RC-70s for mains, RC-LCR, and a pair of Mirage Omnican 65s for the surrounds, along with a VSW-10 sub.

I'm finishing my basement this year, and plan to move the RC-70's down there to go with some other Energy speakers acquired on decent sales over the last year. But the question is, what should I put up in my den (12'x16') to replace them, that will match the remaining speakers? I like the Energy stuff. The upstairs den doesn't have to sound quite as good as now, as the basement will take over for as close as I get to critical listening. But I'm gonna have to still like it, as it will still be used regularly.

I had thought about getting some new RC-10s, (though they just seem so small) and then you can't really get them new anymore.

Maybe I should just switch brands for the front 3, and part out my RC-LCR to a deserving soul here :-).

Originally Posted by batpig 

I think you are lucky you missed that Polk sub, their subs aren't exactly well renowned. The S10.2 is a MUCH better deal.

The Sx.2 subs are very good, their only fault is that they are pretty ugly. But you won't find better bass quality for $75.

This review paired the S10.2 with a Veritas speaker system and provided measurements: http://www.hometheater.com/content/energy-v24-v20c-v20r-s102-surround-system-ht-labs-measures

If you compare to the same mag's measurements of the S10.3 they have a similar response, but the S10.2 actually digs a tiny bit (2Hz) lower. It has a huge peak at ~30Hz which I assume is due to those dual ports (the S10.3 only has a single port) so it looks like it produces a lot of energy down there. The Sx.2 series predates the ribbed elliptical woofer so it probably isn't quite as linear or clean as the S10.3, but it will put out a lot of bass.

Originally Posted by Fears4Ears 

I would sure grab that sub at that price. I just paid $60 for an S8.2 off eBay but they usually go for about $100. The S10.2 retailed for $500. They aren't built the same as the S10.3. I grabbed one because the controls and ports are in front so it may work well for your 2.1 setup or under a desk.

Originally Posted by batpig 

That speaker is much larger, it's more comparable to the RC-10 than the Minis. If you want to upgrade the surrounds to larger speakers it's probably better to find a pair of RC-10's so you can maintain the tonal match.