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post #46051 of 51593
I will have to wall mount the surrounds.
post #46052 of 51593
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

If you can find the CR-3 or RC-R they'll be much easier to wall mount than than the RVSS which is best on stands. I have a pair of RVSS and they do a great job as surrounds. The dual tweeters are dipole (out of phase) while the dual woofers are bipole (in phase) which is a pretty unique design. Plus they have a hexagonal shape which makes them a little difficult to wall mount and they're 8" deep

I think the hexagonal shape was to allow them to be mounted in the back corners of a room. Then the opposite facing drivers would reflect off the side and back walls equally giving full envelop net. They came out in the mid 90s long before 6.1 or 7.1 so I think the goal of the design was to create a full "wraparound" effect with 5.1 and/or pro logic mix sources.
post #46053 of 51593
Just wanted to say that I received my Energy V-Mini bookshelves from caloyzki today. I purchased them from him through ebay and he was an awesome seller. He packaged everything very nicely! I currently have Energy CB20s and CC10 upstairs and downstairs are the V-mini (using as fronts) and the V-mini center from World Wide ($95!). I thought the Connoisseur line was excellent quality but the V-mini are definitely a step up from them. They are small but I have paired them with 2 Klipsch RW-12D subs and the sound is great! I had to get very small speakers because of size constraints due to my wife. I thought I was going to have to stick with something like the Cambridge Audio Min21 but I had a tiny bit more room to play with. I am easy to please as far as sound goes so take this for what it is.

I can definitely see how someone would get an itch to keep upgrading. I think my life, wallet, and marriage flashed before my eyes when I laid hands on these. Now I just keep wondering how much better more expensive speakers could be. lol

I think I will try to forget about it and be satisfied with what I have. smile.gif

Want to give a BIG THANK YOU again to caloyzki
Edited by j76ms - 3/21/13 at 11:05am
post #46054 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Thanks saints. The more opinions the better. Appreciate it.
No problem and if you can afford a pair of RC-Rs I would strongly recommend them. I paid just under $400 for them which is more than I paid for one of my RC-70s, but like I said it was something that doesn't come around often and in my room I needed them(or wanted to try them). They come with mounting brackets and are super easy to hang. PM me for the place I got mine from, they may have another pair.
post #46055 of 51593
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They are small but I have paired them with 2 Klipsch RW-12D subs

Minis with biggies!! biggrin.gif

Way to balance out the WAF compromise on the speakers by bringing the beef with the subs wink.gif
post #46056 of 51593
biggrin.gif I need to take a pic so you all can see. Its a large open area in the basement and my wife picked out some cockamamie entertainment center and she gave me 3 small spots on it. I put the 2 subs in the rear of the room which actually keeps them out of site very well. One in each rear corner. I have 7.2 down there but am unsure what brand the in-wall surrounds/rear surrounds are. I have it all hooked up to an older Denon AVR 791. By the way, thank you Mr. Batpig for all the wonderful resources for my Denon receivers.
post #46057 of 51593
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Originally Posted by j76ms View Post

biggrin.gif I need to take a pic so you all can see. Its a large open area in the basement and my wife picked out some cockamamie entertainment center and she gave me 3 small spots on it. I put the 2 subs in the rear of the room which actually keeps them out of site very well. One in each rear corner. I have 7.2 down there but am unsure what brand the in-wall surrounds/rear surrounds are. I have it all hooked up to an older Denon AVR 791. By the way, thank you Mr. Batpig for all the wonderful resources for my Denon receivers.
Please do take pics, I've been meaning to put some up , but I'm lazy, and busy, but everyone loves pics!
post #46058 of 51593
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I think the hexagonal shape was to allow them to be mounted in the back corners of a room. Then the opposite facing drivers would reflect off the side and back walls equally giving full envelop net. They came out in the mid 90s long before 6.1 or 7.1 so I think the goal of the design was to create a full "wraparound" effect with 5.1 and/or pro logic mix sources.

I'm just not seeing how that really works Batpig. You can't really put them in the corner because the mount doesn't work there, it would have to be a very long bracket. Maybe if they're on stands in the corner it might work though.

post #46059 of 51593
Found this on craigslist locally
For under 500.

Energy XL-250 floor standing speaker/towers (pair)Energy XL-C100 center channel speakerEnergy C-R1 rear channel speaker (pair)Energy S8.2 powered subwoofer system

I could use the surrounds and the sub...is the cr1 any good? Or the sub? Xl250?

Thanks! I didn't realize how many energy models exist...
post #46060 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Found this on craigslist locally
For under 500.

Energy XL-250 floor standing speaker/towers (pair)Energy XL-C100 center channel speakerEnergy C-R1 rear channel speaker (pair)Energy S8.2 powered subwoofer system

I could use the surrounds and the sub...is the cr1 any good? Or the sub? Xl250?

Thanks! I didn't realize how many energy models exist...

Depends how much you could peel away certain speakers from it. The CR-1 should act nicely as surround speakers.

As a price comparison for the sub, I got my s10.2 in perfect condition for $85 delivered. (Edit: I got a great deal, but don't get trapped into paying more than it's worth to pry it away from the set)

And yes, there are many Energy models smile.gif
There is a model I JUST learned about two days ago.... The Energy ES-18XL smile.gif An 18" Energy sub that weighs 150 lbs and has 400 watt RMS and 1600 peak. Energy sure has stepped down from that to a 12" 100 watt sub they're making now......................
post #46061 of 51593
The C-R1 is the baby brother of the C-R3 we were just discussing. It's a more basic bipole layout with a single direct firing woofer and opposed dual tweeters. Should still be good quality but not as big or as sophisticated as the C-R3 / RC-R.

The S8.2 is a decent little 8" sub. But what is your sub situation currently? How big is your room?

If you can snag the surrounds for $100ish that's a solid deal.

I wouldn't worry about the XL towers. Quality but entry level stuff from 10+ years ago.
post #46062 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Found this on craigslist locally
For under 500.

Energy XL-250 floor standing speaker/towers (pair)Energy XL-C100 center channel speakerEnergy C-R1 rear channel speaker (pair)Energy S8.2 powered subwoofer system

I could use the surrounds and the sub...is the cr1 any good? Or the sub? Xl250?

Thanks! I didn't realize how many energy models exist...

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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Depends how much you could peel away certain speakers from it. The CR-1 should act nicely as surround speakers.

As a price comparison for the sub, I got my s10.2 in perfect condition for $85 delivered. (Edit: I got a great deal, but don't get trapped into paying more than it's worth to pry it away from the set)

And yes, there are many Energy models smile.gif
There is a model I JUST learned about two days ago.... The Energy ES-18XL smile.gif An 18" Energy sub that weighs 150 lbs and has 400 watt RMS and 1600 peak. Energy sure has stepped down from that to a 12" 100 watt sub they're making now......................

Thanks. Interesting stuff....Not sure if I can peel anything from it....I will probably hold off on these for now and check back to see if they stay out there and can get a lower price maybe.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The C-R1 is the baby brother of the C-R3 we were just discussing. It's a more basic bipole layout with a single direct firing woofer and opposed dual tweeters. Should still be good quality but not as big or as sophisticated as the C-R3 / RC-R.

The S8.2 is a decent little 8" sub. But what is your sub situation currently? How big is your room?

If you can snag the surrounds for $100ish that's a solid deal.

I wouldn't worry about the XL towers. Quality but entry level stuff from 10+ years ago.

Room is 14x25x8 approx. I am using a krk10s as my sub, I took from my home recording studio. Does well with music and ok with HT but only down to 34Hz. I have been waiting to get an SVS PB-1000 and only need the surrounds to compete everything. Thanks for the info. Looking for the right deal...
post #46063 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post


Thanks. Interesting stuff....Not sure if I can peel anything from it....I will probably hold off on these for now and check back to see if they stay out there and can get a lower price maybe.
Room is 14x25x8 approx. I am using a krk10s as my sub, I took from my home recording studio. Does well with music and ok with HT but only down to 34Hz. I have been waiting to get an SVS PB-1000 and only need the surrounds to compete everything. Thanks for the info. Looking for the right deal...

I just realized you have RC-70s. Do yourself a favor and get a big sub. You have amazing speakers, now you need to pair it with an amazing sub. No use spending money on an 8" sub that probably gets as low as the 70s.
post #46064 of 51593
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

I just realized you have RC-70s. Do yourself a favor and get a big sub. You have amazing speakers, now you need to pair it with an amazing sub. No use spending money on an 8" sub that probably gets as low as the 70s.

Yes - looking at the SVS PB1000. Thanks!! Just thought I would check out a local used sale to see if it was worth it. Probably not...in this case.
post #46065 of 51593
I would agree that, given that you already have such nice speakers and an existing sub, the S8.2 isn't a good fit. If you didn't have a sub and just needed something cheap to fill in with some smaller speakers, it would be fine, but you should aim higher.

I still might inquire about the C-R1 surrounds.
post #46066 of 51593
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Originally Posted by j76ms View Post

Just wanted to say that I received my Energy V-Mini bookshelves from coloyski today. I purchased them from him through ebay and he was an awesome seller. He packaged everything very nicely! I currently have Energy CB20s and CC10 upstairs and downstairs are the V-mini (using as fronts) and the V-mini center from World Wide ($95!). I thought the Connoisseur line was excellent quality but the V-mini are definitely a step up from them. They are small but I have paired them with 2 Klipsch RW-12D subs and the sound is great! I had to get very small speakers because of size constraints due to my wife. I thought I was going to have to stick with something like the Cambridge Audio Min21 but I had a tiny bit more room to play with. I am easy to please as far as sound goes so take this for what it is.

I can definitely see how someone would get an itch to keep upgrading. I think my life, wallet, and marriage flashed before my eyes when I laid hands on these. Now I just keep wondering how much better more expensive speakers could be. lol

I think I will try to forget about it and be satisfied with what I have. smile.gif

Want to give a BIG THANK YOU again to coloyski

sir, thank you so much, and enjoy. God Bless.
post #46067 of 51593
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

sir, thank you so much, and enjoy. God Bless.

Caloyzki, did you get the mordaunt carnival 2's yet? If so, are they in good shape? How do you like them?
post #46068 of 51593
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Caloyzki, did you get the mordaunt carnival 2's yet? If so, are they in good shape? How do you like them?
hi. yes i already received my mordaunt the other day. fortunately yes speakers still in perfect condition and in good shape. i tried it yesterday to used as my fronts to listen to music and watch tv, and yes they sound good and i am impress with them. just last night i used them as my surrounds(they are for my surrounds) and they sounds good too. but i didnt run my audyssey yet as i am still waiting for my V5.2C to arrive tom, i wonder how will they sound after i run my aud. probably by monday night.
post #46069 of 51593
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

hi. yes i already received my mordaunt the other day. fortunately yes speakers still in perfect condition and in good shape. i tried it yesterday to used as my fronts to listen to music and watch tv, and yes they sound good and i am impress with them. just last night i used them as my surrounds(they are for my surrounds) and they sounds good too. but i didnt run my audyssey yet as i am still waiting for my V5.2C to arrive tom, i wonder how will they sound after i run my aud. probably by monday night.

Glad to hear they arrived in good shape. Are you getting a bigger and fuller sound that you were looking for?
post #46070 of 51593
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Glad to hear they arrived in good shape. Are you getting a bigger and fuller sound that you were looking for?
i will try to run my aud. tonight without my center and i will try to watch Bluray movie. and i will let you know.
post #46071 of 51593
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

RVSS is a much older model (mid 90s origin). If the CR-3 fits the budget go for it, like I said its essentially the same as the RC-R but with the driver components from the previous generation of speakers.

Just picked up one CR-3 for around $125 including shipping. Thanks for the idea to try to get the one - for a 6.1. If I can't get the other 2 cheap enough, I can keep my vminis on the sides and put the cr-3 in the back.

Thanks again!
post #46072 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post


Thanks. Interesting stuff....Not sure if I can peel anything from it....I will probably hold off on these for now and check back to see if they stay out there and can get a lower price maybe.
Room is 14x25x8 approx. I am using a krk10s as my sub, I took from my home recording studio. Does well with music and ok with HT but only down to 34Hz. I have been waiting to get an SVS PB-1000 and only need the surrounds to compete everything. Thanks for the info. Looking for the right deal...

eah9, I did a search on ebay for bipole speakers to see what else was out there. I came across these which look like really cool speakers......
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400440087072?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

They are bipole speakers, and pretty large. They have small dials that adjust the treble and midrange so you could adjust them to match the imaging of the RC's as much as possible before running any room correction. They seem to be going for pretty reasonably prices on ebay.
post #46073 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Just picked up one CR-3 for around $125 including shipping. Thanks for the idea to try to get the one - for a 6.1. If I can't get the other 2 cheap enough, I can keep my vminis on the sides and put the cr-3 in the back.

Thanks again!

sir, you are almost all set! congrats!
post #46074 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Just picked up one CR-3 for around $125 including shipping. Thanks for the idea to try to get the one - for a 6.1. If I can't get the other 2 cheap enough, I can keep my vminis on the sides and put the cr-3 in the back.

Thanks again!

Pick up this one too for $100 shipped......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Connoisseur-C-R3-Speaker-/181091191022?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2a29e048ee

You will want to use the two C-R3's for your side surrounds and move your mini's to the rear for at 7.1. From what I gather, the side surrounds provide more material so you'd be better off using the C-R3's for the side surrounds.
post #46075 of 51593
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Pick up this one too for $100 shipped......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Connoisseur-C-R3-Speaker-/181091191022?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2a29e048ee

You will want to use the two C-R3's for your side surrounds and move your mini's to the rear for at 7.1. From what I gather, the side surrounds provide more material so you'd be better off using the C-R3's for the side surrounds.

Thank you. Just pulled the trigger. I now have 2 matching CR-3's on there way for a total $225, shipped. Everyone here has been so helpful. Really appreciate it. I will probably get out-bidded on the other pair - currently winning at $51 :-) with 3 days to go. If not I would gladly have 4 CR-3's for a 7.1 and sell my vmini's or give them to my brother.

Now that I will have 2 CR-3's I will move the vminis back. I was only thinking of using the CR-3 in the back if I just had one. Now I am excited! Hopefully the wife will share in my excitement. I am waiting for the ....how many speakers do you need? comment. She is enjoying the outstanding music coming from the R70's and V52.C, so maybe it will go over ok.......
post #46076 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

Yes - looking at the SVS PB1000. Thanks!! Just thought I would check out a local used sale to see if it was worth it. Probably not...in this case.

The S10.2 can be heard a little over my RC-50s, so with the deeper bass from the 70s, I doubt you would even really pick up on the 8.2 unless you maxed out the volume, which wouldn't be healthy for it. When I use the s10.2 with the RC-10s though, it is a beautiful thing to behold. Setting the crossover around 80 in the 2.1 setup lets it really shine and lets the RC-10s cover more ground where they are comfortable. So doing that with your 70s (letting them do what they're good at and giving the LOW duty to something capable) is probably a good idea.
post #46077 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

I will probably get out-bidded on the other pair - currently winning at $51 :-) with 3 days to go. If not I would gladly have 4 CR-3's for a 7.1 and sell my vmini's or give them to my brother.

Stop bidding...you're just driving the price up on yourself. Wait til the last couple of minutes (or seconds) or use a sniper with your max bid.
post #46078 of 51593
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Originally Posted by sanjoelo View Post

Stop bidding...you're just driving the price up on yourself. Wait til the last couple of minutes (or seconds) or use a sniper with your max bid.

So you are saying never bid at all until the last minute? I get that but I put in a max bid and was fine with that. And at this point I don't really want them unless they are really inexpensive, since I got the other 2.

I never heard of a sniper bid but will look - I have only bid a few times on ebay so I am definitely not a pro...Thanks.
post #46079 of 51593
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

So you are saying never bid at all until the last minute? I get that but I put in a max bid and was fine with that. And at this point I don't really want them unless they are really inexpensive, since I got the other 2.

I never heard of a sniper bid but will look - I have only bid a few times on ebay so I am definitely not a pro...Thanks.
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Yes, that was what I meant. I wasn't trying to say you were bidding against yourself smile.gif Bidding early just entices other interested parties to outbid you, and usually results in the price being driven up. If you leave an auction alone until that last minute (or last few seconds if you're a daring sort, or using a sniper), then at least you haven't been a part of the price being driven up.
post #46080 of 51593
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Originally Posted by sanjoelo View Post

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Yes, that was what I meant. I wasn't trying to say you were bidding against yourself smile.gif Bidding early just entices other interested parties to outbid you, and usually results in the price being driven up. If you leave an auction alone until that last minute (or last few seconds if you're a daring sort, or using a sniper), then at least you haven't been a part of the price being driven up.

Got it. Makes sense. Appreciate the advice. I wasn't going to be home when the auction expired so I just put in a max bid and let it fall where it may....I can definitely see how it would be advantageous to wait. Just read about sniping...interesting stuff. Thanks again.
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