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post #46441 of 51438
the sale was a easter online sale...The hours were from 8pm EST Sat the 30 until monday the april 1 10 am EST..I KNOW STUPID HUH.I was in Calgary at the time heading back to BCon monday morning,So i bought them at the store In Calgary before I left.Hey I saved 7% TAX..
post #46442 of 51438
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I love Future Shop! rolleyes.gif

Went in today and saw a $399 price tag. I informed the associate that the price online was $349 until the end of the day. They looked it up and sure enough, the price has been increased to $399 and the sale has been extended until April 4th. I know for sure that it originally said that the $349 price was good until April 1st and the associate confirmed that the sale prices are valid until the doors close on the date indicated.

Bad April Fools Joke
post #46443 of 51438
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Not surprised it was TV viewing, that's what I suspected. The problem is that (1) TV programs are not mixed at the same reference level as movies, and also (2) many TV programs pump too much info into the surrounds because they are trying to sound more impressive through the typical HTIB speakers that most consumers have.

Honestly, I'm not sure if Onkyos allow you to save this setting independently for different sources. On Denon/Marantz receivers all of the Audyssey settings (EQ curve, Dyn EQ/Vol, Ref Level Offset, etc) are memorized for each source separately. It would be pretty simple to test though... go to your cable TV input, set the offset to 15dB, and then flip back to your Blu-ray input and check to see if it's still 0dB or if it's also 15dB.

Batpig, I have read up on the audyssey reports that you have on your website. Some great info in there, have learned a lot thus far. I have been playing with the settings and I still feel that the rears are still too loud even when listening to a Blu Ray. I am concerned that the distances that are showing after I run the Audyssey are off on the rear speakers. Dynamic EQ is on with reference level set to 0 for the Blu Ray source and 10 for watching TV. Below are the current settings after I ran another Audyssey a few days ago:

Using Onkyo TXNR 616 Receiver
(3) v-mini centers in the front
Take classics in the rear
SVS PB 1000 sub

L 11ft. -1db
C 10ft -3db
R 10ft -2 db
SR 10ft +1db
SL 14ft +4db
Sub 13ft +2db

The rears I would say are a few feet off from where they actually are. I have attached a few pics (not the greatest) but to try and give an idea of how I have things set up. I ran the audyssey using a tripod and tried in a few different listening positions and pretty much got the same results with a few minor changes. I am not sure if it is in my mic placement/method or if I need to work on the position (pointing them more downward) of the left and right fronts or the angle of the rears. The seating position is in the rear of the room, with the current set up I am not getting much out of the fronts. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!


AppleMark
post #46444 of 51438
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Yes, those are from the late 90's. The e:XL series was the entry level model in the late 90's and the S10 subwoofer was the first generation of "S" subwoofers (followed by the S10.2 and S10.3).

The speakers are worthless to you unless you want to make a secondary / bedroom setup or something, they would fetch around $100 total for the three on the used market.

The subwoofer is solid as a second sub to add to your Dayton, I would offer 50 bucks for it. And up to $80-100 it's still a good value assuming it's in good condition.

I bought a e:XLs10 sub from a guy on Craigslist a few years back for $75. I use it in my bedroom system. Its a very nice sub and better than the Dayton sub 10 I have in my office. Its probably better than the sub1200 also. At least it'll be more musical.

Not a big fan of the XL towers or bookshelf speakers. They're ugly too frown.gif
post #46445 of 51438
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Bad April Fools Joke

Sort of. It was an on-line sale ended that at 10:00 am this morning when the retail stores opened for business after being closed on Sunday.

I ordered a pair for in-store pick up and now I'm having second thoughts, even at $349.99 each.
post #46446 of 51438
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Here's a few images I found on google, it basically looks like a black box... it's a 16 inch cube and weighs 45 lbs:






Download the subwoofer brochure here
http://207.67.68.90/images/download/472.aspx


100 watts rms/400 watts peak
43lbs
25hz - 100hz

If you can get it for $75 or less it would be a great deal.
post #46447 of 51438
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Originally Posted by Rsmith115 View Post

Batpig, I have read up on the audyssey reports that you have on your website. Some great info in there, have learned a lot thus far. I have been playing with the settings and I still feel that the rears are still too loud even when listening to a Blu Ray. I am concerned that the distances that are showing after I run the Audyssey are off on the rear speakers. Dynamic EQ is on with reference level set to 0 for the Blu Ray source and 10 for watching TV. Below are the current settings after I ran another Audyssey a few days ago:

Using Onkyo TXNR 616 Receiver
(3) v-mini centers in the front
Take classics in the rear
SVS PB 1000 sub

L 11ft. -1db
C 10ft -3db
R 10ft -2 db
SR 10ft +1db
SL 14ft +4db
Sub 13ft +2db

The rears I would say are a few feet off from where they actually are. I have attached a few pics (not the greatest) but to try and give an idea of how I have things set up. I ran the audyssey using a tripod and tried in a few different listening positions and pretty much got the same results with a few minor changes. I am not sure if it is in my mic placement/method or if I need to work on the position (pointing them more downward) of the left and right fronts or the angle of the rears. The seating position is in the rear of the room, with the current set up I am not getting much out of the fronts. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!


AppleMark
Hey your speakers you got look great! I assume you are satisfied with the sound?
post #46448 of 51438
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post


Hey your speakers you got look great! I assume you are satisfied with the sound?

Thanks. I am, I am surprised by how much they fill my big space with how small they are. Need to get them tuned in a little more so we can get even more enjoyment out of them.
post #46449 of 51438
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Originally Posted by Rsmith115 View Post

Thanks. I am, I am surprised by how much they fill my big space with how small they are. Need to get them tuned in a little more so we can get even more enjoyment out of them.

You mentioned you weren't sure if you used your mic right. Usually if you don't have very many viewers, or mostly you use it alone, you can stand the mic at ear level in the seat you always use. If there are various seating areas, I usually put it in the general area where people sit. For example I tune it to my seat with MCACC (like Audyssey), and then when I do movie nights I rerun MCACC with the mic in the center of the long couch where everyone would sit.
post #46450 of 51438
The boom stand and the adapter to hold the audyssey mic arrive tomorrow smile.gif.
post #46451 of 51438
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Tell him that Energy makes lots of subs and speakers and he needs to specify the model number if you are going to make a reasonable offer. Wort case have him snap a pic on his cell phone or whatever of the sub and speakers and we can identify it here.

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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

If the guy isn't willing to give you model numbers of the speakers he is selling then I'd forget about it. Not worth your time.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Yes, those are from the late 90's. The e:XL series was the entry level model in the late 90's and the S10 subwoofer was the first generation of "S" subwoofers (followed by the S10.2 and S10.3).

The speakers are worthless to you unless you want to make a secondary / bedroom setup or something, they would fetch around $100 total for the three on the used market.

The subwoofer is solid as a second sub to add to your Dayton, I would offer 50 bucks for it. And up to $80-100 it's still a good value assuming it's in good condition.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Here's a few images I found on google, it basically looks like a black box... it's a 16 inch cube and weighs 45 lbs:






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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I bought a e:XLs10 sub from a guy on Craigslist a few years back for $75. I use it in my bedroom system. Its a very nice sub and better than the Dayton sub 10 I have in my office. Its probably better than the sub1200 also. At least it'll be more musical.

Not a big fan of the XL towers or bookshelf speakers. They're ugly too frown.gif

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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Download the subwoofer brochure here
http://207.67.68.90/images/download/472.aspx


100 watts rms/400 watts peak
43lbs
25hz - 100hz

If you can get it for $75 or less it would be a great deal.

ok guy, i contacted the seller, and he is willing to sell it to me for $50 pick up. if i can get this i can use it for dual sub on my system with my dayton 1200, i dont know what will be the outcome if i use them as dual sub, and also i saw at newegg that the klipsch rw 12d is on sale right now for $279.99. what do you guys think will be the best route for me? dual sub or one klipsch sub? it is mostly for movies i am gonna use it. thanks.
post #46452 of 51438
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

ok guy, i contacted the seller, and he is willing to sell it to me for $50 pick up. if i can get this i can use it for dual sub on my system with my dayton 1200, i dont know what will be the outcome if i use them as dual sub, and also i saw at newegg that the klipsch rw 12d is on sale right now for $279.99. what do you guys think will be the best route for me? dual sub or one klipsch sub? it is mostly for movies i am gonna use it. thanks.

Heck if I were given a $50 price on any 10 inch powered subwoofer (that actually was of any quality), I would jump on it. If you could still get the RW12d then you'd at least have one powerful sub, could try the 10 inch sub with it, and if that didn't work out, just re-sell or use the other sub.

But I think your Dayton and the e:XL-s10 would be a closer match than the RW12d if you're wanting dual.

It sounds to me like you're getting major upgraditis for subs (specifically dual). If you're wanting a dual setup, you might be needing to fork out the money for it. The RW12d has power, and is on sale obviously, so getting 2 for example would leave you with no worries as to how they'd match. I know it's expensive, but matching them is the easiest way to know they'll match in power and frequency.
post #46453 of 51438
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Heck if I were given a $50 price on any 10 inch powered subwoofer (that actually was of any quality), I would jump on it.

But that's just me. I like having options later if I decide to switch things up or create a 3rd or 4th setup wink.gif
post #46454 of 51438
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Heck if I were given a $50 price on any 10 inch powered subwoofer (that actually was of any quality), I would jump on it. If you could still get the RW12d then you'd at least have one powerful sub, could try the 10 inch sub with it, and if that didn't work out, just re-sell or use the other sub.

But I think your Dayton and the e:XL-s10 would be a closer match than the RW12d if you're wanting dual.

It sounds to me like you're getting major upgraditis for subs (specifically dual). If you're wanting a dual setup, you might be needing to fork out the money for it. The RW12d has power, and is on sale obviously, so getting 2 for example would leave you with no worries as to how they'd match. I know it's expensive, but matching them is the easiest way to know they'll match in power and frequency.

i know klipsch is on sale right now at newegg for 279, this is what i am considering too buy this and sell my dayton, other option is bic f12 is a good sub? what are the advantages and disadvantages from klipsch? some is offering me his 2 bic f12 of course used. if i get that im having 2 subs bic f12. which one should i get?
post #46455 of 51438
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post


ok guy, i contacted the seller, and he is willing to sell it to me for $50 pick up. if i can get this i can use it for dual sub on my system with my dayton 1200, i dont know what will be the outcome if i use them as dual sub, and also i saw at newegg that the klipsch rw 12d is on sale right now for $279.99. what do you guys think will be the best route for me? dual sub or one klipsch sub? it is mostly for movies i am gonna use it. thanks.

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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

i know klipsch is on sale right now at newegg for 279, this is what i am considering too buy this and sell my dayton, other option is bic f12 is a good sub? what are the advantages and disadvantages from klipsch? some is offering me his 2 bic f12 of course used. if i get that im having 2 subs bic f12. which one should i get?

This sounds like the kind of stuff the subwoofer forum would be perfect for. I would ask there.

When it comes to one sub over another, this thread is a good place to ask because if the nice and knowledgeable people here, But when you start talking about dual of one sub vs. a single of another, the subwoofer forum is the place to ask.
post #46456 of 51438
^^^^^^wink.gif
post #46457 of 51438
Caloyzki,

Man you are on a mad spending spree! smile.gif

New RC-70s, new center, new surround speakers, now you want to upgrade to dual subs.

We should all be so fortunate! biggrin.gif
post #46458 of 51438
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Caloyzki,

Man you are on a mad spending spree! smile.gif

New RC-70s, new center, new surround speakers, now you want to upgrade to dual subs.

We should all be so fortunate! biggrin.gif

Lol. Only Dayton 1200 i got frown.gif
post #46459 of 51438
Sigh, I'm still looking for an Energy S10.3 frown.gif
post #46460 of 51438
The klipsch RW-12D is on sale at newegg for $279 which from what I have read is superior to the S10.3.

Thats probably your best bet at the moment. Jump on it while its on sale!
post #46461 of 51438
S10.3s are great, Can I ask why you didnt jump when they were 179.00 at newegg a year with free shipping.

They ran the sub for sooooooooooooooooo long at rock bottom prices.

Anyways, I wish you luck , craigslist should yield results sooner or later on one
post #46462 of 51438
I didn't jump on the S10.3 sales because I didn't need one then.
post #46463 of 51438
Also keep an eye out for the Mirage Omni 10.3 , as i think it was pretty much a clone of the S10.3
post #46464 of 51438
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I didn't jump on the S10.3 sales because I didn't need one then.

Maybe you should look at the Energy e:xl-s10 for $50 that Caloyzki is considering if he doesn't want it.
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Also keep an eye out for the Mirage Omni 10.3 , as i think it was pretty much a clone of the S10.3

The Mirage Omni s10 never went on sale for the low prices of the s10.3 and are scarce too.
post #46465 of 51438
Is the S10.3 alot better than the EWSC-10
post #46466 of 51438
Has anyone attempted to wall mount their RC-10's? They'll be doing surround duty in my home system.
post #46467 of 51438
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Sigh, I'm still looking for an Energy S10.3 frown.gif
maybe you want my dayton 1200 sub? biggrin.gif
post #46468 of 51438
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Is the S10.3 alot better than the EWSC-10

Yes
post #46469 of 51438
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Is the S10.3 alot better than the EWSC-10

Yes!
post #46470 of 51438
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

maybe you want my dayton 1200 sub? biggrin.gif

Thank you for the offer caloyzki, but I must decline.
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