or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Energy Owners Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Energy Owners Thread - Page 1567

post #46981 of 51438
What are you replacing it with?
post #46982 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Anyone looking for a brand new RCLCR in cherry finish. There is one for sale now on Ebay for 277.00 free shipping.

Looks like this just sold, hopefully someone on here that was looking for this bought it. Good price for a hard to find brand new cherry RCLCR
post #46983 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Looks like this just sold, hopefully someone on here that was looking for this bought it. Good price for a hard to find brand new cherry RCLCR

There's still a black one on there... bit steep though rolleyes.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Speakers-RC-LCR-Center-Speaker-/161007613436?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item257ccd35fc

What would be a good alternative to this for RC-70s? Future Shop wants $1000 for the Veritas v5.2c which is laughable considering US prices, but pickings are slim up here...
post #46984 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyrmetros View Post

Would that be an issue going foward buying an Energy product?

It depends on the product and your tolerance to using mismatched speakers for the front stage and surrounds, or used products. If you buy the 5 sats right now, you don't have to worry about buying "future Energy products". However Energy recently discontinued many products. So for example, if you go with the 3x V5.2 suggestion, be aware that there is a strong chance of not finding matching speakers for surrounds in the future. Your budget is a bit on the low side especially if you were envisioning full-size speakers, so you may want to look at used items.
Quote:
Being that I am not buying all of the equipment at 1 time, the $$ amount would be flexible month to month. I was just envisioning $600 as a base to work with. Are energy subwoofers highly rated or is there another company to consider? I understand that the speakers should all be the same company, but the subwoofer can be different.

You are right, no problem at all finding your subwoofer outside of the Energy family. The current Energy subwoofers (ESW-C8, ESW-C10, Power 10/12) are not very well regarded. The SX.Y (e.g. S10.3) models are well regarded and often sell at very low prices, although you'll have trouble fitting those in your budget. I think the Veritas subs are okay but their price is not in line with their performance most of the time and won't fit in your budget anyway. With $600 to spend on a 5.1 setup, you must aim quite low for the sub. Typically, the BIC F12 is considered to be one of the best sub at $200, but I haven't seen any recommendation at all for a cheaper sub. If you really must keep the sub around 100$, I guess your best bet would be the Dayton SUB-1200 at PartsExpress.com. That being said, under $200 I'd take a very serious look at the used market for the subwoofer.
post #46985 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by deton8 View Post

What would be a good alternative to this for RC-70s? Future Shop wants $1000 for the Veritas v5.2c which is laughable considering US prices, but pickings are slim up here...

Even when the RC-LCR was available in the US, it was long gone from FutureShop or any other Canadian store. I had to purchase mine south of the border. Now they are totally discontinued, and with the excess RC-70s stock, they are in high demand, hence the kind of prices you see on Ebay.

The $1k asking price for the V5.2c at FutureShop is a total joke. Once or twice a year they're 50% off. Even at $500 it's frustrating considering how low they go in the US. They're the best match for RC-70s outside of other RC products though. Don't go with a mini center (e.g. RC-Mini center) with the 70s though. You'll have much better results simply running a phantom center with the RC-70s. FutureShop regularly discounts the CC-10 down to $250 and sometimes to $200. It's not bad, but not as well matched to the RC-70s as the RC-LCR or V5.2c. You might as well look outside of the Energy lineup, or maybe consider not using a center at all.
post #46986 of 51438
And to think I bought a RC-LCR for $220 and shipped it to a fellow AVS'er a few years ago, from FS
post #46987 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Wait.... your problem is that you have too many speakers and youre not sure how to best utilize them?

Sorry.... not seeing the problem here.....

The problem is I have 23 Energy speakers now and only one 14 year old Sony STR-DB930 5.1 AVR to drive them. Actually what's worse is I just handed the gomment $7000. I don't see the Denon 4520 coming down in price so my plans for 11.2 (half the speakers) are on hold. Shame to have them gathering dust. Especially since their value keeps dropping from what I paid. Also hard to go back once you hear the Veritas!
post #46988 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

The problem is I have 23 Energy speakers now and only one 14 year old Sony STR-DB930 5.1 AVR to drive them. Actually what's worse is I just handed the gomment $7000. I don't see the Denon 4520 coming down in price so my plans for 11.2 (half the speakers) are on hold. Shame to have them gathering dust. Especially since their value keeps dropping from what I paid. Also hard to go back once you hear the Veritas!
why dont sell them so that others can benefit or can start having HT or maybe somebody want to upgrade their set up. rather than sitting collecting dust.
post #46989 of 51438
Anyone out there have a V2.0Ci they want to sell?
post #46990 of 51438
Wrong thread I know, but I'd like to know anyone's opinions on universal remotes they use with their HT. I'm currently looking at a Harmony 900 or Harmony One. Any thoughts? Or other options? What else do my fellow Energy lovers use with their setups?
post #46991 of 51438
Harmony One for Primary*** Picked it up when they were $99 at Costco, Missed em when they were $50 at Best Buy temporarily
Dell Gyration Remote for HTPC, Airmouse type thing. They are great and were very cheap 6 years ago or so ( Have 3 of these for backups) Have repaired the keypads a few times, Have a few backup RF recievers boards)


When extensive control, or batteries dead
Also for more xbmc control: Yatsee for Android all the way
DirectTV Remote+ for Android
Remote Launcher for Android
AVR Remote for Denon AVR

Other remotes I have tried Measy RC11 for HTPC
These are pretty good for XBMC / HTPC and under $25
Used on Media Clients around the house.

Retired Remotes:

Marantz RC2000 was like 279
Philips Pronto (Hated It) Way too much programming involved)
Edited by nc88keyz - 4/18/13 at 8:50pm
post #46992 of 51438
harmony one. it controls everything (htpc, Xbox, roku, oppo, receiver, TV, sms-1, TiVo) except the ps3.
post #46993 of 51438
I also use my iPad and phone. there's apps for just about every piece of gear I own.
post #46994 of 51438
If I cant locate a v2.0ci what would be the next best thing for a center with the v2.2i
post #46995 of 51438
Just be patient, you'll find one.

are you looking for black or cherry?
post #46996 of 51438
isnt there one in cherry on ebay right now for five bills. V2.0i?

Or is that not the one you need. Pictures welcomed

ended on the 16th / my bad

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-V2-0Ci-Center-Channel-Speaker-Cherry-/110989267845?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item19d779d385
post #46997 of 51438
For those in the northeast. I would try to talk the price down.

http://longisland.craigslist.org/ele/3750073114.html


Edit***** actually it doesn't say local only. Baron maybe you can call and see if he'll work with you.
post #46998 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Just be patient, you'll find one.

are you looking for black or cherry?

Actually it doesnt make a difference, I like both and it wouldnt bother me to have black fronts and cherry finish for the center.
post #46999 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

For those in the northeast. I would try to talk the price down.

http://longisland.craigslist.org/ele/3750073114.html


Edit***** actually it doesn't say local only. Baron maybe you can call and see if he'll work with you.

Nice find, why cant stuff like that be in my neck of the woods. Any ways I might call this guy on that. Noticed
its not the i series so is woofer freeze up common with these?
post #47000 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

For those in the northeast. I would try to talk the price down.

http://longisland.craigslist.org/ele/3750073114.html


Edit***** actually it doesn't say local only. Baron maybe you can call and see if he'll work with you.

Maybe he will break it up and sell just the center. Shipping wouldnt be that expensive on that.
Then I could unload my rclcr and rc-r's and have the veritas as my living room ht setup.
Edited by baron2 - 4/19/13 at 12:01am
post #47001 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Nice find, why cant stuff like that be in my neck of the woods. Any ways I might call this guy on that. Noticed
its not the i series so is woofer freeze up common with these?

It's in my neck of the woods, but it's too big for my room frown.gif
post #47002 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Even when the RC-LCR was available in the US, it was long gone from FutureShop or any other Canadian store. I had to purchase mine south of the border. Now they are totally discontinued, and with the excess RC-70s stock, they are in high demand, hence the kind of prices you see on Ebay.

The $1k asking price for the V5.2c at FutureShop is a total joke. Once or twice a year they're 50% off. Even at $500 it's frustrating considering how low they go in the US. They're the best match for RC-70s outside of other RC products though. Don't go with a mini center (e.g. RC-Mini center) with the 70s though. You'll have much better results simply running a phantom center with the RC-70s. FutureShop regularly discounts the CC-10 down to $250 and sometimes to $200. It's not bad, but not as well matched to the RC-70s as the RC-LCR or V5.2c. You might as well look outside of the Energy lineup, or maybe consider not using a center at all.

Yeah I'm rocking the phantom centre right now but I'm shooting for 5.1 (or at least 5.0 in this apartment, heh). Off-center listening is a bit annoying but tolerable for now.

Coincidentally, FS has "all Energy speakers on sale" starting today. The CC-10 is $199 and the v5.2c/r are $499. Wonder what the chance is they'll eventually go for cheaper before they go for good...

http://www.futureshop.ca/Search/SearchResults.aspx?path=ca77b9b4beca91fe414314b86bb581f8en20&q=%252a&sp=FS_en-CA_Product_Collection_Site-WideSP&Facet=cFSMCCPCatalogenCAPresentationHierarchy1%2523%2523-1%2523%2523-1%257e%257eq2a%257e%257ecFSMCCPCatalogenCA1047%2523%2523a%2523%25237x%257e%257enf29%257c%257c454e45524759&viewall=true&targetCategory=1047

Are there any speakers here that would make good surrounds for RC-70s? I know the RC-10s were a popular choice back when they could still be sourced...
post #47003 of 51438
anybody wants to swap/trade V5.2C to RC LCR? smile.gif
post #47004 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by deton8 View Post



Are there any speakers here that would make good surrounds for RC-70s? I know the RC-10s were a popular choice back when they could still be sourced...

Well the Veritas Surrounds are on as part of that sale at FS. They would work fine.

I also have CR-10's as height surrounds as part of my RC setup and the match just fine as well.
post #47005 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

Wrong thread I know, but I'd like to know anyone's opinions on universal remotes they use with their HT. I'm currently looking at a Harmony 900 or Harmony One. Any thoughts? Or other options? What else do my fellow Energy lovers use with their setups?

I use an Harmony 650. I have a love/hate relationship with Logitech: they are often the only making the solutions I seek, but parts of their offering can often be total crap. The Harmony lineup is like this. They are great remotes. They feel great, the Harmony database is huge and so they're able to control a very wide range of devices, and the activity-based concept is what I need. Part of what I hate is not due to Logitech: the IR signals must be emitted serially, and sometimes a delay must be added (e.g. after the receiver is powered on, there is a wait period before being able to switch to a different input). This leads to tedious waiting times for certain activities. Other aspects that I dislike are Logitech-induced. The Internet Explorer web app to program the remote is a PITA and slow as hell if you want to do more than default configurations. When the setup is "in limbo" (i.e. in a state that is not one of the Harmony activity modes), the remote is then almost useless, and the automatic fixing routine doesn't always work and is sometimes lengthier than just doing the fix manually. Also, the price of those remotes is absurd considering you can now have a full-featured tablet for less than some of their offerings. My 650 can control 5 devices; the 700 (not offered anymore) costs $50 more and can control 6 devices. Really? This has to be an #IFDEF somewhere in the code, not a hardware limitation! You have to go to the Harmony One ($200 MSRP!) to be able to control 8-9 devices. Yet I haven't found a better product so...
Quote:
Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

harmony one. it controls everything (htpc, Xbox, roku, oppo, receiver, TV, sms-1, TiVo) except the ps3.

I also have the Harmony PS3 adapter. One one hand, it's very useful to us because we use the PS3 as our sole optical disk player and frequently as a media player. Being able to control it with the everyday remote is a huge plus. However, the adapter is far from perfect. First, well, you now trade a terrific bluetooth remote for a crappy IR one that needs line-of-sight. Second, the way the PS3 turns on and off breaks the Harmony "help/fix" routine. This is because turning the PS3 off is basically a toggle (long-press of the PS button followed by selecting "quit" and "are you sure/yes", whereas turning it on is a single press of the PS button). Thus when the Harmony tries to help, it first turns off every device that is not supposed to be off. So if the PS3 is off, this will in fact turn it on, every time. Granted, this is as much a problem with the PS3 as it is with the Harmony remote. In our day and age, power toggles are not acceptable in my opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by deton8 View Post

Coincidentally, FS has "all Energy speakers on sale" starting today. The CC-10 is $199 and the v5.2c/r are $499. Wonder what the chance is they'll eventually go for cheaper before they go for good...
Who knows. Neither the CC-10 nor the v5.2c are perfect matches for the RC-70s (a perfect match would be a third RC-70s in fact!). The V5.2c is certainly a better match and a better speaker, but for $200 the CC-10 is not a bad buy anyway. I'd rather have the V5.2c for $200 though. The best way to do this if you don't live too far from the border is to order the V5.2c in the US and ship it to a border mail service such as a Kinek point. Those will charge you $5-10 to keep your package for 30 days. You then have to go just south of the border and pick the package, then pay taxes at the border. Depending on your distance to the border, tax rate, and tolerance to risk (e.g. if the product is damaged, the return process will be a PITA), you could probably get a V5.2c for half the $500 asked by FutureShop right now. This is what I did for my RC LCR and RC-10s more than a year ago.
Quote:
Are there any speakers here that would make good surrounds for RC-70s? I know the RC-10s were a popular choice back when they could still be sourced...

Well the RC-Rs are the dipole/bipole speakers of the RC series. They are in huge demand and were not produced after 2007. The RC-10s (which I use for surrounds) are great bookshelf speakers but they are not produced anymore either. The RC-Mini speakers would make good surrounds also I think. Now for many people, having matching surrounds is not as important as having a matching front stage, so it's less critical. However, having run the CB-20s as surrounds before the RC-10s, I could notice the timbre mismatch when playing videogames, where the surround content is often as loud as the front stage content, depending on the 3D orientation of your character.
post #47006 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by deton8 View Post

Yeah I'm rocking the phantom centre right now but I'm shooting for 5.1 (or at least 5.0 in this apartment, heh). Off-center listening is a bit annoying but tolerable for now.

Coincidentally, FS has "all Energy speakers on sale" starting today. The CC-10 is $199 and the v5.2c/r are $499. Wonder what the chance is they'll eventually go for cheaper before they go for good...

http://www.futureshop.ca/Search/SearchResults.aspx?path=ca77b9b4beca91fe414314b86bb581f8en20&q=%252a&sp=FS_en-CA_Product_Collection_Site-WideSP&Facet=cFSMCCPCatalogenCAPresentationHierarchy1%2523%2523-1%2523%2523-1%257e%257eq2a%257e%257ecFSMCCPCatalogenCA1047%2523%2523a%2523%25237x%257e%257enf29%257c%257c454e45524759&viewall=true&targetCategory=1047

Are there any speakers here that would make good surrounds for RC-70s? I know the RC-10s were a popular choice back when they could still be sourced...

I found some used CR3's on ebay - cost me about $200 for both. They are similar to the RC-R's - bipole/dipole. I am very happy with them. I have the v'minis' as rears and they are working out well there to complete the 7.1 setup. I didn't think the vminis were that good for side surrounds but my room is odd shaped and probably contributed to that.
post #47007 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by deton8 View Post

Yeah I'm rocking the phantom centre right now but I'm shooting for 5.1 (or at least 5.0 in this apartment, heh). Off-center listening is a bit annoying but tolerable for now.

Coincidentally, FS has "all Energy speakers on sale" starting today. The CC-10 is $199 and the v5.2c/r are $499. Wonder what the chance is they'll eventually go for cheaper before they go for good...

http://www.futureshop.ca/Search/SearchResults.aspx?path=ca77b9b4beca91fe414314b86bb581f8en20&q=%252a&sp=FS_en-CA_Product_Collection_Site-WideSP&Facet=cFSMCCPCatalogenCAPresentationHierarchy1%2523%2523-1%2523%2523-1%257e%257eq2a%257e%257ecFSMCCPCatalogenCA1047%2523%2523a%2523%25237x%257e%257enf29%257c%257c454e45524759&viewall=true&targetCategory=1047

Are there any speakers here that would make good surrounds for RC-70s? I know the RC-10s were a popular choice back when they could still be sourced...

The Veritas surround (VSB) at 300 are probably the best of the bunch for surround duty. The V52 probably follow them, but they are 500 each on that sale.

I'd go with the VS surrounds in that sale.
post #47008 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

Thank you! Is picasa freeware ?

Affirmative.
post #47009 of 51438
Seems they only have 1 VSB available in all of eastern canada, in store pickup only. Not sure I want to bite and try my luck finding another.

They do have plenty (70+) of the V-mini surrounds, though it seems $149 is the regular price for those...
post #47010 of 51438
Quote:
Originally Posted by deton8 View Post

Seems they only have 1 VSB available in all of eastern canada, in store pickup only. Not sure I want to bite and try my luck finding another.

They do have plenty (70+) of the V-mini surrounds, though it seems $149 is the regular price for those...

Well obviously you want two.

I have RC-50's and used the RC mini's as surrounds for a while with them. They were good, no complaints, but I eventually got two RC-10s (equivalent to the RC-5.1's (?) ) and that has been much better.

If you can find another VSB, then that's the way to go.

Otherwise, depending on your budget, two 5.2c's may do it for you or two V-mini's. If you can find them, two v-mini center's may be good and a better alternative to the v-mini's.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Speakers
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Energy Owners Thread