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post #48091 of 51439
Irony or not,

The same guy sold me a V5.2C Piano Black for a very fair price considering whats out there. Also they are pretty much like he says store returns. Come with everything a new one did, OG boxes packing, white glove, badge manual plugs etc. and paperwork. Not a mark on it either.

It could certainly be a typo, they were 250 i think a week ago or so. Same seller in TX, and yes he only has one, He did have 2 a few weeks ago when he had 3 V5.2Cs.
post #48092 of 51439
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Haha, man...I might have to check that out...sounds pretty epic!! smile.gif
Is there a particular disc you would recommend?

Yeah. I've mentioned it several times:

on Amazon search for:

Blue Man Group - Audio

and then click on the left on:

DVD-Audio

or just google

ASIN: B000051S65

If the $14.50 price scares you, I've had luck with buying used on Amazon.

There are others but everyone seems to agree this is the most viscerally satisfying.
post #48093 of 51439
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

Yeah. I've mentioned it several times:

on Amazon search for:

Blue Man Group - Audio

and then click on the left on:

DVD-Audio

or just google

ASIN: B000051S65

If the $14.50 price scares you, I've had luck with buying used on Amazon.

There are others but everyone seems to agree this is the most viscerally satisfying.

I'm taking it on word-of-mouth from you...but ordered. wink.gif
(used copy, that is!) wink.gifwink.gif
I also have one of their blu-rays coming in the mail from netflix. That might be entertaining as well.
post #48094 of 51439
When running dual subs is it best to place them on each side of the TV stand or in the right and left front corners?
My room is 19 feet wide.
post #48095 of 51439
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

When running dual subs is it best to place them on each side of the TV stand or in the right and left front corners?
My room is 19 feet wide.
Best to experiment and see what you like. Of the two options you gave, the corner option would probably be best.
post #48096 of 51439
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

Best to experiment and see what you like. Of the two options you gave, the corner option would probably be best.

Thanks, going to try one in each corner paired with V2.2i. Does it make a difference if the sub are out more from the wall than the front speakers? My front wall sboth up and downstairs have a point in the center then toe out from there on both sides. So if my front speakers
are 3 1/2 feet offf each side of my TV stand my subs will be a good 4 feet further along the wall from my fronts so with the natural toe in it will place the subs out front more than my front main speakers.
post #48097 of 51439
Styx, Miss America:)

Im not a big bass head but I running V2.3i with 2 S12.3 subs just for experimantation downstairs.
This Yamaha RX-Z9 has hook ups for stereo subs, right left. Sounds kind of cool.
post #48098 of 51439
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

When running dual subs is it best to place them on each side of the TV stand or in the right and left front corners?
My room is 19 feet wide.

Impossible to answer in a vacuum. Without measuring gear it's hard to predict the exact interaction of the dual subs in your room. In general corner placement will provide more "loading" for extra output / extension whereas pulling them out from corners will provide flatter/smoother response, but in terms of which is "best" it's almost random which will be better in a given room in terms of the overall combined response.
post #48099 of 51439
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

When running dual subs is it best to place them on each side of the TV stand or in the right and left front corners?
My room is 19 feet wide.


in my room diagonal works best. about 2' away from the corners.
post #48100 of 51439
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

When running dual subs is it best to place them on each side of the TV stand or in the right and left front corners?
My room is 19 feet wide.


in my room diagonal works best. about 2' away from the corners.
post #48101 of 51439
Thanks guys. smile.gif
post #48102 of 51439
I think this Yamaha RX-Z9 came out the same time the Denon 5805 came out. Nice receiver for 2 channel, dam thing is heavy 66 pounds.
post #48103 of 51439
batpig check your PM
post #48104 of 51439
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

I'm taking it on word-of-mouth from you...but ordered. wink.gif
(used copy, that is!) wink.gifwink.gif
I also have one of their blu-rays coming in the mail from netflix. That might be entertaining as well.

They are really fun to watch! Enjoy!!
post #48105 of 51439
Got the Beatle's "Love" DVD-Audio today. This is the re-mix from the original tapes for the Vegas show. Bought used from Amazon for under $10 shipped. IT IS BRAND STINKING NEW! In the shrink wrap with the label still on it. You just never know. You can hear the whole thing on Youtube but it's really nice to be able to crank the center and isolate the vocals. These guys were pure genius.

If nothing else, listen to "Strawberry Fields". It starts with just John and a casually strummed acoustic guitar. I think George Martin did that so you could see what happens as he layers all that other amazing stuff on top. And then he just keeps going with snippets of other songs. "Lady Madonna" is totally de-constructed and mashed up and sounds GREAT! "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is mixed like "Yesterday", with only strummed guitar and string orchestra. Just really sweet. You've heard it all before but never like this. Makes you appreciate the boys as well as Martin's contributions even more. And yeah, the surround is awesome!
post #48106 of 51439
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

What a time to check in about my findings from the RC-70 comparison and the Reference 22 Connoisseur speakers.
Anyways, to move onto other things that don't involve useless comments from strangers and whatever it is that tweeter-disassembling guys do, I hope this may be useful and somewhat informative to people.


The RC-70s are about 1 year old and perfectly functioning.
The 22 Reference Connoisseurs are about 30 years old, and I am aware that they are "in need" of a tweeter tune up.
So it is not a totally fair playing field, but it is what it is. This is for a general idea of the 2 types of speakers from 2 very different times.

I did not compare them at loud listening levels, because I really don't find it worth the chance of damaging the hard to get tweeters. I played them at medium-loud volume levels.

The RC-70s have a fuller sound to them, but I find them to be thicker sounding and not as natural as the 22 Reference Connoisseurs. In comparison, the RC-70s have an over all thick sound, from the bottom to the top.

The 22 Reference Connoisseurs are thinner sounding, but clear, especially in the bass. The RC-70s can't touch the 22 Reference Connoisseurs for the low frequency bass. It is much more powerful, punchy, detailed and crisp while being much deeper and enveloping. I can recognize the direct relations between the 22 Reference Connoisseurs and the Veritas, in regards to the bass characteristics. They have precise but powerful and penetrating bass that you feel in your chest, very few speakers I have heard are capable of that.

I found the 22 Reference Connoisseurs destroy the RC-70s for dance and bass focussed music.
I prefer the RC-70s for all the other music I have played.

Over all, I prefer the sound of the RC-70s over my 22 Reference Connoisseurs. With a tweeter tune up, I suspect that could change though.

As I mentioned a while ago, the 22 Reference Connoisseurs are not in the Veritas league. They can give the RC-70s a good run, and actually destroy the RC-70s in the bass department.

Recently bought 22 Reference Connoisseurs. I set them up yesterday. With the few hours I had listening to them and comparing them to RC-70, what Hank said above is spot on. I couldn't agree more. If one thing, I will add that 22s seem to have a bigger sound stage than 70s but that may very well depend on my room characteristics.

At this point, still prefer RC-70s though they are not as natural sounding as 22s.
post #48107 of 51439
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Originally Posted by mantrika View Post

Recently bought 22 Reference Connoisseurs. I set them up yesterday. With the few hours I had listening to them and comparing them to RC-70, what Hank said above is spot on. I couldn't agree more.

I love hearing about vintage Energy on here. smile.gif
post #48108 of 51439
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ele/3855810781.html

Go guys is this worth it?his last price is 70.
post #48109 of 51439
is it worth it for what purpose? the CB-5's are not better than any of the speakers you currently have in your signature. Not by a long shot.
post #48110 of 51439
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ele/3855810781.html

Go guys is this worth it?his last price is 70.

I think it's a decent deal. I'm thinking they can come in handy as rear speakers.
post #48111 of 51439
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

is it worth it for what purpose? the CB-5's are not better than any of the speakers you currently have in your signature. Not by a long shot.

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Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

I think it's a decent deal. I'm thinking they can come in handy as rear speakers.

Thanks guys. That is what i am thinking. I'm planning to put them as front high or surround back. I just got the denon 2112ci does my avr is fine for front high or surround back? Or maybe it's just a waste of money?
post #48112 of 51439
There to small for what you have already. Heights in my opinion dont give you the bang for your buck like front wides do. Since you have RC-70's for fronts I wouldnt put CB-5's in the front stage anywhere.
You have surrounds and the ones you have will outperform these CB-5's. Its only a good deal if you need the CB-5's.
post #48113 of 51439
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

There to small for what you have already. Heights in my opinion dont give you the bang for your buck like front wides do. Since you have RC-70's for fronts I wouldnt put CB-5's in the front stage anywhere.
You have surrounds and the ones you have will outperform these CB-5's. Its only a good deal if you need the CB-5's.
Thank you. I will tell the seller in not interested anymore. Is my 2112 is capable for another 2 speakers? Maybe on the future if I'm planning.
post #48114 of 51439
Dont know about that receiver but look in the back if it says front heights you should be able to hook up front wides.
post #48115 of 51439
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Dont know about that receiver but look in the back if it says front heights you should be able to hook up front wides.
Okay thanks. I didn't check that.
post #48116 of 51439
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Dont know about that receiver but look in the back if it says front heights you should be able to hook up front wides.

You can set it up for surround back or front height, totally up to you. Front wide is not an option.

From Denon Product Sheet

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Incomand_AVR2112CI_r10.pdf
Quote:
Power Amp Assign function, for versatility in using the AVR-2112CI for different
purposes (Surround Back, Front Height, Zone 2, Bi-Amp, Front Speaker B)
post #48117 of 51439
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

You can set it up for surround back or front height, totally up to you. Front wide is not an option.

From Denon Product Sheet

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Incomand_AVR2112CI_r10.pdf
Thank you. Atleast now i know that i can do 7.1 lol.
post #48118 of 51439
I think you knew it was 7.1 when you bought the receiver since it is on the box, description, specifications, owners manual and has 7 sets of speaker terminals, etc.
post #48119 of 51439
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I think you knew it was 7.1 when you bought the receiver since it is on the box, description, specifications, owners manual and has 7 sets of speaker terminals, etc.
Something like that. But not really interested to know until when I'm browsing at craigslist and saw the cb5 post.
post #48120 of 51439
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

I love hearing about vintage Energy on here. smile.gif

Unless they come out with something exciting pretty quick, ALL energy stuff will be "Vintage"!

I can't imagine any of us fielding questions about "Energy Power Bars". Besides, what's gonna happen when somebody tries to google THAT!
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