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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

I just ordered 3 rosenut. I wanted the black, but they were sold out.

My only hesitation with the rosenut is that it's not the high gloss rosenut similar to the bigger veritas. Anybody have good pics of the finish on the rosenut VMinis?

I just got an e-mail saying that the black Vmini was sold out and they can't ship my order mad.gif
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By all accounts the Rosenut finish on the V-Mini's is identical to that on the RC-Mini's they replaced. It's a darker (more of a reddish nut brown, as opposed to the more red/orange finish on the full size Veritas) finish with a matter feel, not piano gloss lacquer. Here's a photo of my RC-Mini's rosenut finish:



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Looks good batpig
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As far as speakers sitting on the dining room table go wink.giftongue.gif

The RC rosenut finish is still my favorite. Well, actually, a pair of V1.8's in Mahogany would be the ticket....
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Interestingly the rosenut of my RC-Mini's is a shade or two redder than my RC-10's. My RC-10's are really brownish red, even darker than my RC-LCR too:

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The RC-10 does look darker. I would really like to have a pair of rosenut RC-70's just really like that look.
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For any SoCal types... this guy in San Diego who has had a pair of V2.2i with original matching stands on eBay for a while has dropped his price to $700:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-2-2i-With-Original-Stands-and-manual-/181164637929

That's a really great price considering they are "i" models and the original factory stands are included.
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I don't think it will be a problem. If the sub is naturally rolling off at the top end around 120Hz it should blend perfectly with the Minis. It might be an issue if you went with tiny sats like the Micros but not the Minis.

The CC-5 is bigger and has deeper bass, but it's not *better* than the Minis. The Minis will be much more refined, better build quality and higher quality drivers. Just a little smaller.
Thanks for the reassurance. My sub is the S10.3. I ordered three in rosenut, and will set them up like this....

Using three of these...http://www.centerstagebracket.com/1206.html

I plan to tilt them downward slightly towards the listening area.

Still not a wide field, but it gets the Left & Right fronts out of the cubbyholes, and no center channel reflections off credenza.

A compromise, but one I can live with.
Edited by dsskid - 6/27/13 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

For any SoCal types... this guy in San Diego who has had a pair of V2.2i with original matching stands on eBay for a while has dropped his price to $700:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-2-2i-With-Original-Stands-and-manual-/181164637929

That's a really great price considering they are "i" models and the original factory stands are included.

That's the price I was hoping to pay for a pair except that I found my V2.3's instead. And Scott, please don't mention what you just sold those V2.2i's for. I'm sure it would make that $700 look bad, but that's just how you are. That was a good price you gave me on my V2.0Ri's. You're one cool dood! (Except, of course, that I didn't end up with the V2.2i's!)
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

That's the price I was hoping to pay for a pair except that I found my V2.3's instead. And Scott, please don't mention what you just sold those V2.2i's for. I'm sure it would make that $700 look bad, but that's just how you are. That was a good price you gave me on my V2.0Ri's. You're one cool dood! (Except, of course, that I didn't end up with the V2.2i's!)

LOL. I would of felt bad if I sold the V.20Ri for more money. Same way with the V2.2i I sold to Kevin. And yes it made the 700.00 for the V2.2i look real bad.
Speaker Karma, Glad everyone that bought speakers from me last week felt they got a good deal. Thanks Joel, Kevin, and my man Fears. smile.gif

Time for me to go listen to a little Highway To Hell in the garage. cool.gif
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Gonna be 111 degrees here Monday. I won't be putting speakers in the garage!
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Hey Scott:

Do you find the V2.3's to be punchier in the mids than the V2.2's or just deeper in the bass? I would think that the crossover and larger cabinet would allow for better mids in the top woofer and lower lows from the bottom woofer and front port. I LOVE the lows in the V2.3's. Really all you need for 2-channel music.
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

Hey Scott:

Do you find the V2.3's to be punchier in the mids than the V2.2's or just deeper in the bass? I would think that the crossover and larger cabinet would allow for better mids in the top woofer and lower lows from the bottom woofer and front port. I LOVE the lows in the V2.3's. Really all you need for 2-channel music.

I havent had them side by side, but I do notice the lower bass by all means when listening to the V2.3. This may sound odd but I like the V2.2 better for my television setup.
After reading some of Johns remarks on running the V2.2i with a sub I got curiouse and tried it out myself. The V2.2i goes lower than any bookshelf I have heard and it has just enough bottom end to be enjoyable. With saying that when I put a sub with them they sounded really nice, the mids were nice and clear, top end was great and the added bottom end was what it needed to sound nice and full.
Edited by baron2 - 6/27/13 at 6:54pm
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dsskid make sure you put the rubber feet's for the center channel ,the finish is very delicate ,it can get scratched very easily.
Edited by losservatore - 6/27/13 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

dsskid make sure you put the rubber feet's for the center channel ,the finish is very delicate ,no gloss ,it can get scratch very easily.
Will do, thanks for the heads-up.
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

dsskid make sure you put the rubber feet's for the center channel ,the finish is very delicate ,no gloss ,it can get scratch very easily.
Will do, thanks for the heads-up.


Oh I didn't know that you are going to wall mount the 3 center speakers ,but anyways good luck with that.
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I'm not wall mounting them. I'm Using CSB1206 center channel brackets/shelves that mount to the top and rear of the tv. Then sitting the speakers on the shelves. They'll be about an 1-1/2 -2" from the wall. The face of the speakers will be flush, or slightly in front of the bezel of the tv, so no sound reflections.
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

Hey Scott:

Do you find the V2.3's to be punchier in the mids than the V2.2's or just deeper in the bass? I would think that the crossover and larger cabinet would allow for better mids in the top woofer and lower lows from the bottom woofer and front port. I LOVE the lows in the V2.3's. Really all you need for 2-channel music.
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

I havent had them side by side, but I do notice the lower bass by all means when listening to the V2.3. This may sound odd but I like the V2.2 better for my television setup.
After reading some of Johns remarks on running the V2.2i with a sub I got curiouse and tried it out myself. The V2.2i goes lower than any bookshelf I have heard and it has just enough bottom end to be enjoyable. With saying that when I put a sub with them they sounded really nice, the mids were nice and clear, top end was great and the added bottom end was what it needed to sound nice and full.

Glad to hear you like the 2.2's with a sub. I'll be running mine with an S8.2 in a music only setup which should handle the lows and blend well with the 2.2s.

Thanks again Scott!
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post


Glad to hear you like the 2.2's with a sub. I'll be running mine with an S8.2 in a music only setup which should handle the lows and blend well with the 2.2s.

Thanks again Scott!

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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

I havent had them side by side, but I do notice the lower bass by all means when listening to the V2.3. This may sound odd but I like the V2.2 better for my television setup.
After reading some of Johns remarks on running the V2.2i with a sub I got curiouse and tried it out myself. The V2.2i goes lower than any bookshelf I have heard and it has just enough bottom end to be enjoyable. With saying that when I put a sub with them they sounded really nice, the mids were nice and clear, top end was great and the added bottom end was what it needed to sound nice and full.

Glad to hear that some of my rambling-posts have beens somewhat helpful (or, at least, curiosity-inducing!).
It did take me quite a lot of setting-tweaking before I got the 2.2 / sub settings really dialed in to my personal tastes (and in some case against general "good practice", like with the "double bass")...but I did end up there in the end. So, just expect to potentially need to do the same...though it sounds like baron got there pretty quickly.

Let us know how things sound...and I'm glad baron has been passing on the "speaker-love", especially to some folks who might not being in the...well..."sweet spot" for the used market like I am here in socal.
(seriously...I have to try and control myself ... seems like there's deals every way you turn [well...'google']!!!)
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

And now V2.3's, V2.0C Center, V2.0Ri Surrounds, and V2.2 Wall Mount Wides.

I've actually been curious about that...I do have my C-6's as surround backs in my 2.2i / 2.0c / 2.0Ri setup ... and it really does seem to add quite a lot in certain cases. And, from what I have read, wides or heights are even more noticeable of an improvement...
...would you say this is true -- does having the 2.2i's as wides add quite a bit?
Just curious. wink.gif

And btw...to the gentleman who was inquiring about his receiver running really hot...my Denon 4311 (which shouldn't be any slouch in the receiver world) runs really, really hot. Much hotter than any receiver I've had in the past (including my Onkyo 797). I do listen at pretty high volumes, but I don't know if the heat in-and-of-itself is a huge concern or not?

And lastly, is a Denon AVR-1613 for $250 a pretty reasonable price? My parents need a receiver, and I found one on craigslist for that price. They're not hooking up anything super high speaker-wise...they just want things simple (for switching sources), and I wanted to get them a decent brand. smile.gif
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And, from what I have read, wides or heights are even more noticeable of an improvement...
...would you say this is true -- does having the 2.2i's as wides add quite a bit?

It's worth pointing out that his receiver (Denon 3808CI) isn't actually capable of running "true" wide or height channels. It predates 11ch expansion like DSX or NEO:X and doesn't even have PLIIz for height channels. You can do some hybrid type of thing (e.g. pushing your side surrounds in front of the listening position and then spacing the surr.backs wider to compensate) but not technically "wide" channels. I'll let him answer for himself but from my recollection those wide channels are part of future plans and not in use yet.

Anyway, I have heard DSX running on a 4311 with wides + heights and it is really impressive, DSX adds a "huge" feeling to movies. But the effectiveness of it really depends on your ability to place them properly. If your room is too narrow to achieve the proper angles on the wide speakers it may not be worth it. You have enough speakers though that you could easily test it out as a temp setup, for example dragging the C-8's in and placing them as wides and re-running Audyssey to see how it sounds.

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And btw...to the gentleman who was inquiring about his receiver running really hot...my Denon 4311 (which shouldn't be any slouch in the receiver world) runs really, really hot. Much hotter than any receiver I've had in the past (including my Onkyo 797). I do listen at pretty high volumes, but I don't know if the heat in-and-of-itself is a huge concern or not?

I think you also mentioned that your receiver has shut off occasionally when blasting music at high volumes? I might actually be a bit concerned. In my experience the 4311 doesn't run THAT hot. The 2nd gen V's aren't super sensitive -- only 86dB for the V2.2i -- so you may be driving things too hard.

Most modern receivers will throw off a bit of heat that doesn't even come from the amp section, generated by the processing chips (HDMI board, video processer, etc.). That will manifest as "hot spots" on the top of the unit. If you turn on the receiver for a while without playing any audio then feel around the top you can get a sense of the "idle heat" level. But the receiver shouldn't be "really, really hot" in normal operation. Obviously there are variables like the amount of space/ventilation you have around the unit, but considering that the Veritas aren't the easiest speakers to drive, and your receiver is getting really hot and even shutting itself down occasionally, you may want to consider that you are pushing the limits of the amp section.

You still have the 797 right? As another experiment, you could try hooking it up as an amplifier to the 4311. Run RCA's from the pre-amp outputs of the 4311 into the Multich Analog inputs of the Onk. Hook up the speakers to the Onkyo (probably only need to offload the front three L/C/R for this test), makes sure all speakers settings (distance, level) are zeroed out on the Onk. If you have an SPL meter you can just adjust the master volume on the Onk so that you are getting the same calibrated levels as on the Denon (relative volume won't change but absolute volume will). Or you can re-run Audyssey to have it set the levels for you.

Then crank it up and see if the Denon runs considerably cooler.
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Can someone help me with my sound bar/ sub I bought today at a yard sale? I bought a Energy Power Bar with subwoofer. I got it for $25, which is pretty damn awesome, but I can't seem to get sound from the sound bar. It turns on and I was able to sync it with my TV remote, but I am getting no sound. I have tried my digital optical cord, RCA-3.5mm cord, on my TV, Droid, and Macbook. No sound. Could I be doing something wrong? I went back to the guy and he said that I'm probably using the wrong kind of cord....... so I asked for a refund. He said no refunds but let me have a working iPod Nano for free LOL. So now i'm stuck with this sound bar and would like to figure this issue out.

I have not tried the subwoofer yet.
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Ahhh... we officially have our FIRST question on the Energy owner's thread about the new "Power Bar"! biggrin.gif

To be honest the newer soundbar products are mostly mocked here, but $25 is a steal of a price. I've heard it in a Best Buy Magnolia and the sound quality was indeed quite good for a soundbar.

In terms of your problems, I would have suggested trying both digital and analog input options but it looks like you've already done that. I might be suspicious of a broken unit. I don't know a lot about that particular unit's function but you should be aware that it has its own volume control in addition to the volume control of the source, so make sure it's not something silly like that. I believe it also can switch inputs so make sure it's not on the wrong input or something. Have you tried downloading the manual from Energy's site? http://www.energy-speakers.com/soundbars/?sku=POWER-BAR
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Ahhh... we officially have our FIRST question on the Energy owner's thread about the new "Power Bar"! biggrin.gif

To be honest the newer soundbar products are mostly mocked here, but $25 is a steal of a price. I've heard it in a Best Buy Magnolia and the sound quality was indeed quite good for a soundbar.

In terms of your problems, I would have suggested trying both digital and analog input options but it looks like you've already done that. I might be suspicious of a broken unit. I don't know a lot about that particular unit's function but you should be aware that it has its own volume control in addition to the volume control of the source, so make sure it's not something silly like that. I believe it also can switch inputs so make sure it's not on the wrong input or something. Have you tried downloading the manual from Energy's site? http://www.energy-speakers.com/soundbars/?sku=POWER-BAR

This bar must have came out pretty recently then? I already used that link to hook up my remote. I can't seem to find something that fixes it. I am going to try my Xbox 360 when I get home from my job and see if that works.

OH I just realized, I plugged it with a digital optical cord into my TV but not my cable box! I wonder if that's what I did wrong.
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I would definitely test multiple sources. If the only digital optical source was your TV then it's possible you didn't have the TV properly configured for that output. Ideally you would first test on something else to confirm proper audio output from the source (e.g. testing it on a standard receiver) and then move the optical plug over to the soundbar. Then you know the source is working.

The Power Bar actually was announced almost two years ago (press release) but it's more that an enthusiast forum like AVS is geared towards people with "real" speaker setups. Soundbars in general don't get a lot of love here.
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

I've actually been curious about that...I do have my C-6's as surround backs in my 2.2i / 2.0c / 2.0Ri setup ... and it really does seem to add quite a lot in certain cases. And, from what I have read, wides or heights are even more noticeable of an improvement...
...would you say this is true -- does having the 2.2i's as wides add quite a bit?
Just curious. wink.gif

And btw...to the gentleman who was inquiring about his receiver running really hot...my Denon 4311 (which shouldn't be any slouch in the receiver world) runs really, really hot. Much hotter than any receiver I've had in the past (including my Onkyo 797). I do listen at pretty high volumes, but I don't know if the heat in-and-of-itself is a huge concern or not?

And lastly, is a Denon AVR-1613 for $250 a pretty reasonable price? My parents need a receiver, and I found one on craigslist for that price. They're not hooking up anything super high speaker-wise...they just want things simple (for switching sources), and I wanted to get them a decent brand. smile.gif

John, Im running front wides with my V6.2's downstairs and I like the addition of front wides. Never tried it with the older Veritas though. As far as receivers running hot, dont have a Denon, my Pioneers run warm at times with the VSX-94 running the warmest but its also runs the most wattage at 140 but thats about it for them. My Yamaha RX-V659 runs a little warmer than the Pioneers but my Yamaha RX-Z9 runs hot, hot enough to turn the fans on but has never shut down since I have been crankin on it. Master volume goes to plus 16.5, the most I have had it to was plus 6 for a little while. Fans did click on for that volume. The RX-Z9 is an older receiver I think it came out the same
year the Denon 5805 did. By the way anyone ever have the 5805?
Edited by baron2 - 6/28/13 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I would definitely test multiple sources. If the only digital optical source was your TV then it's possible you didn't have the TV properly configured for that output. Ideally you would first test on something else to confirm proper audio output from the source (e.g. testing it on a standard receiver) and then move the optical plug over to the soundbar. Then you know the source is working.

The Power Bar actually was announced almost two years ago (press release) but it's more that an enthusiast forum like AVS is geared towards people with "real" speaker setups. Soundbars in general don't get a lot of love here.

I also wonder if it needs to be connected to the sub to work. I haven't connected the sub yet because I need to get unmod it. It is currently modded to have a wired connection, which I have no use for and won't work on the sound bar. Luckily the guy gave me the equipment to make it wireless again.
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Johnb:

Yeah, sorry. I should have said the V2.2WM's would be used either as wides or prolly as surrounds at 110 degrees for multi-channel music. My Denon 3808 has switchable surrounds. If it dies on me I would go straight to a Denon 4520 and try wides and heights.
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Ok so tried my Xbox and cable box, nothing worked.

Something to note is that the back area where the vent holes are, if you get really close is smells a little. I'm wondering if something burned.

I called Energy and they said that only the person who bought it can return it. They don't repair these.

Is it possible some kind of repair shop could fix this? Or maybe I could fix it myself? I unscrewed the back but I can't seem to figure out how to take the whole green board out.

EDIT: I just noticed the power cable for this was different than the original cable. It says "For use with Motorola DCX Products." The output is 12V, and the input is 100-127V. Is it possible this power cord is not powerful enough for the speakers to go off?


EDIT AGAIN: OH MY ****ING GOD IT WAS THE POWER CORD! I used the one for my Xbox 360 racing wheel. So I did get a working Energy Power Bar and sub for $25!

http://img.pandawhale.com/27810-Grumpy-Cat-is-happy-vjxK.jpeg
Edited by TheGrumpyCat - 6/28/13 at 2:10pm
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Whats the difference between the RW-12 and the RW-12D ? Are either of those or the RW-10 better than the Energy V-SW10 ? Is there strong point music or movies?

Looking for a reasonable price sub to go with the V2.2i. I tried one of my V-SW10 subs from my HT setup downstairs and thought it was a good match. I know there are better subs, Im on a budjet with this.
Edited by baron2 - 6/28/13 at 2:51pm
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