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post #49621 of 51471
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

You are not going really going to "feel" any vibration coming from those midrange drivers as they aren't meant to reproduce the low bass frequencies.

You especially wont feel it if you have the knob set so they are turned off.
post #49622 of 51471
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

Sounds good - hopefully will sound even better when I get the Emotiva XPA-5 this weekend smile.gif

Reading the info on that youtube link about Bon Scott made me think about how many big name deaths there were in the music scene in 1980 - John Lennon, Bon Scott, John Bonham. Bob Marley was around that time too I think - possibly more.
Cliff Burton (Metallica)
Randy Rhoads (Ozzy)
Karen Carpenter
Roy Orbison
Bob Marley;
to name a few more
post #49623 of 51471
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Originally Posted by jasonmichaelh View Post

The 2.0r setup guide is in this specific manual on pages 10-11. I guess the bi-pole/di-pole adjustment is more preference based, but Energy does give some guidelines in the chart.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/scjuc30ylshsa5n/s0jZxqm56i/Energy%20Speaker%20Manuals%20and%20Brochures-May%2027%2C%202012/Energy%20Veritas%202.4i%20and%20Family%20Set%20Manual%20%26%20Specs.pdf

Thanks for the link. And yes i follow the instructions from the chart and i set my dipole surround to - 2.
post #49624 of 51471
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

The volume knob is the volume adjustment for the little additional midrange drivers located on opposite sides of the speaker. You can turn it all the way down and in essence turn the speaker into a direct firing speaker using only the front facing woofer and tweeter. But for the most part, you are going to turn it all the way up ( to within 1db of the front drivers) to use the full dipole/bipole surround effect that the speaker offers. You are not going really going to "feel" any vibration coming from those midrange drivers as they aren't meant to reproduce the low bass frequencies.

Thanks sir. Now i know how to use them now. And i try to touched the small side woofer and i can fell a little vibration on it. But not the same as tge front woofers. I really like my surrounds sounds now!
post #49625 of 51471
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Originally Posted by adept777 View Post

Hi guys; I have been looking for a set of RC-R to make a 7.1 in my family room...I currently have a pair setup in my basement which I bought for $400 about two years ago. But now I am not able to find ANY - been searching for almost six months. And I finally found this **Link Below** today - Is this the current going price?? It seems very expensive. Should I proceed to buy or do you all think it is over priced? Thanks !!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-RC-Series-RC-R-R-Surrounds-1-Pair-RC-R-RCR-Reference-Connoisseur-Rare-/221205493624?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3380dff778
I found a pair of RC-R's,some marks but at a good price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Reference-Connoisseur-RC-R-B-1-Speakers-Pair-/261316583136?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3cd7ae9ee0
post #49626 of 51471
In case anyone is looking:

RC-70 and LCR in ROSEWOOD


But it's in Nova Scotia.
post #49627 of 51471
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Originally Posted by MuaySteve View Post

In case anyone is looking:

RC-70 and LCR in ROSEWOOD


But it's in Nova Scotia.
Maybe I could get Ricky, Julian or Bubbles to check them out for me...
post #49628 of 51471
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

WAAAAYYYY overpriced! Do not do it! Be patient. You can probably find a pair for $400-$500. The joker that is selling them comes on here from time to time telling us what a great salesman he is. He probably has had these listed for about a year.

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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

I believe he was trying to get $1,250 for them awhile back.

I agree with Caper. Maybe you'd be better off with the VS.

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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post


This. If I recall correctly, he had them listed for $1200 at one point. Now that he's down to $750, maybe you should send him a PM and see if he's will to come down at all. His screen name here is the same as his ebay name.

Other speakers to look at if you can't find the RC-R's are the VS surrounds, V2.0R's, or C-R3's (sometimes also called CR-3's).

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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

Hi, if you are not in a hurry to get one just be patience, once in a while look at your local cl or ebay. That is what happened to me. My wait just paid off, i just snug a beautiful pair of V2.0R at cl for $150.

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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I have both the RC-Rs and VS surrounds. I haven't put a whole lot of listening time or even any critical listening for that matter, but the RC-Rs do sound like they match the rest of my RC speakers better than the VS surrounds. There is nothing wrong with using the VS surrounds and I would have been perfectly happy keeping them in use with my RC70s and RC-LCR, but the opportunity came up to get the RC-Rs so I jumped on it. I ended up paying over $500 for them but they were brand new. As I mentioned, they are a better speaker for my application, but was the difference worth $500 compared to what I already had? No...

adept777, I'm not sure how important bipole/dipole is in a rear surround speaker. I could be wrong and someone please correct me if this is the case, but I think many people use monopole speakers for rear surrounds with their bipole/dipole side surrounds. If this is true, then perhaps you should be looking for a RC-10s or even a pair of RC-LCRs. Even towers would work if you have the space for them.

Thank you very much; tang7969, dsskid, kgallerie,caloyzki & brendelac for your inputs; I was surprised myself to see the price hence I decided to ask here to check the current going rate. LIke I said I already have a pair that I got about 2 years ago for only $400 if i remember right. Anyway I am glad I did not jump on it.
post #49629 of 51471
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

I found a pair of RC-R's,some marks but at a good price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Reference-Connoisseur-RC-R-B-1-Speakers-Pair-/261316583136?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3cd7ae9ee0


OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome price BUT I missed it frown.gif(( I wish I was here earlier to catch that auction! I wonder how I missed that when I searched for it earlier this week!!!! DAMN!! I feel so sad that I missed it but at the same time very glad that I did not jump on the other one for $750!
post #49630 of 51471
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

Sounds good - hopefully will sound even better when I get the Emotiva XPA-5

brendelac, you are getting an Emotiva amp to power your RC setup? If that is the case, I am very interested in what your thoughts are on the upgrade. I will soon be upgrading my AVR to a Denon X4000, and have considered what it would be like adding external amplification. Please post your thoughts when you receive your amp. I know I for one am very interested. Thanks in advance.
post #49631 of 51471
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

brendelac, you are getting an Emotiva amp to power your RC setup? If that is the case, I am very interested in what your thoughts are on the upgrade. I will soon be upgrading my AVR to a Denon X4000, and have considered what it would be like adding external amplification. Please post your thoughts when you receive your amp. I know I for one am very interested. Thanks in advance.
The RCs have been reappointed to dust collecting duty. I have 2.3 2.0C and 2.0R Veritas that I am purchasing the XPA-5 for, but will make sure to try it with the RCs to let you know what I think.
post #49632 of 51471
I haven't been around in over a year. Someone update me. I don't have the time to read through 1000 + pages of posts!

1) is batpig still around?
2) I thought the RC 70's were discontinued but yet I still see then on Energy's website
3) What was the final verdict on which sounds better RC70 or veritas 6.3? (Last time I was on here this was a big topic)
4) I thought the veritas 6.3 were also discontinued? I remember big price drops on them but they are also still on Energy's website.

Thanks.
post #49633 of 51471
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Originally Posted by juiceblrc View Post

I haven't been around in over a year. Someone update me. I don't have the time to read through 1000 + pages of posts!

1) is batpig still around?
2) I thought the RC 70's were discontinued but yet I still see then on Energy's website
3) What was the final verdict on which sounds better RC70 or veritas 6.3? (Last time I was on here this was a big topic)
4) I thought the veritas 6.3 were also discontinued? I remember big price drops on them but they are also still on Energy's website.

Thanks.

1) Yes
2) As far as I know, Future Shop in Canada is the only major retailer in North America that carries them
3) Still subjective/opinionated
4) See #2
post #49634 of 51471
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Originally Posted by juiceblrc View Post

I haven't been around in over a year. Someone update me. I don't have the time to read through 1000 + pages of posts!

1) is batpig still around?
2) I thought the RC 70's were discontinued but yet I still see then on Energy's website
3) What was the final verdict on which sounds better RC70 or veritas 6.3? (Last time I was on here this was a big topic)
4) I thought the veritas 6.3 were also discontinued? I remember big price drops on them but they are also still on Energy's website.

Thanks.
Sound Distributors has them for $599 or best offer on eBay. I should clarify. They have the 6.3's in rosenut or black.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-V-6-3-Tower-Speaker-Black-Each-/200911964778?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2ec7494a6a
Edited by tang7969 - 11/2/13 at 4:45am
post #49635 of 51471
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Originally Posted by MuaySteve View Post

In case anyone is looking:

RC-70 and LCR in ROSEWOOD


But it's in Nova Scotia.
Hmmm. I only want the 70's !! I live about an hour and a half from there...
post #49636 of 51471
Get all 3 speakers and sell the RC LCR to someone here on AVS.

Do you already have a center speakers?
post #49637 of 51471
I'm selling my pair of V-6.2 towers in rosenut. If anyone is looking for a pair, especially if you live in the Bay Area, here's the post in the classified section: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1497601/energy-veritas-v-6-2-tower-speakers-piano-rosenut-finish-pair
Edited by wryan - 11/1/13 at 10:00pm
post #49638 of 51471
^^^
those won't last long.
post #49639 of 51471
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

The RCs have been reappointed to dust collecting duty. I have 2.3 2.0C and 2.0R Veritas that I am purchasing the XPA-5 for, but will make sure to try it with the RCs to let you know what I think.

If you've got the time, I would love to hear your findings. I'm only about 2 years into my hobby and would love to hear what someone's thoughts are on adding external amplification. I've asked the question before and really never came out with a clear answer.
post #49640 of 51471
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

If you've got the time, I would love to hear your findings. I'm only about 2 years into my hobby and would love to hear what someone's thoughts are on adding external amplification. I've asked the question before and really never came out with a clear answer.
I will get back to you with a clear answer/opinion. I will have it by tomorrow. I will preface it though by saying that I'm no audiophile myself and am already somewhat skeptical about reaching $750 deeper into my wallet for better SQ so for me to give it a thumbs up, it will have to be very good. The only reason I'm even trying it is because I know that if I don't like it, it should be easily resold for the same price so no real financial loss in trying.
post #49641 of 51471
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I will get back to you with a clear answer/opinion. I will have it by tomorrow. I will preface it though by saying that I'm no audiophile myself and am already somewhat skeptical about reaching $750 deeper into my wallet for better SQ so for me to give it a thumbs up, it will have to be very good. The only reason I'm even trying it is because I know that if I don't like it, it should be easily resold for the same price so no real financial loss in trying.

I wouldn't say that I'm an audiophile either. Like I said I'm only about 2 years into this hobby, and would just like to hear your results. Reason being is I plan on having my current speaker setup for quite some time and if adding some quality amplification is a route to go to achieve better sound quality, it is the route I would like to take. Don't get me wrong, I love my current setup. And hopefully after an AVR and TV upgrade (Denon X4000, and Panny Plasma) my heart will be content. That is unless you come back and tell me that adding an Emotiva was a big step up for you. Thanks again for your willingness to test it out for us here. I imagine I'm not the only person interested in your findings.
post #49642 of 51471
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

I wouldn't say that I'm an audiophile either. Like I said I'm only about 2 years into this hobby, and would just like to hear your results. Reason being is I plan on having my current speaker setup for quite some time and if adding some quality amplification is a route to go to achieve better sound quality, it is the route I would like to take. Don't get me wrong, I love my current setup. And hopefully after an AVR and TV upgrade (Denon X4000, and Panny Plasma) my heart will be content. That is unless you come back and tell me that adding an Emotiva was a big step up for you. Thanks again for your willingness to test it out for us here. I imagine I'm not the only person interested in your findings.
Sounds like we have similar tastes - I also have a Denon AVR-3312 and Panny TC-P60ST30
post #49643 of 51471
btw if you are in TRI STATE area i am selling these beautiful speakers.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1497715/energy-rc-series-set-up-nyc-local-pick-up




hello guys, for anyone who already experienced to compare the RC 70, RC LCR , RC 10 set up to Veritas 2.4, veritas v2.0C and veritas 2.0R which is better for HT? right now i have the RC set up, and i am planning to get the veritas speakers. is it a huge upgrade for me interms for watching movies? no music. what are the disadvantage and advantage each set up? thanks a lot.
post #49644 of 51471
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

btw if you are in TRI STATE area i am selling these beautiful speakers.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1497715/energy-rc-series-set-up-nyc-local-pick-up




hello guys, for anyone who already experienced to compare the RC 70, RC LCR , RC 10 set up to Veritas 2.4, veritas v2.0C and veritas 2.0R which is better for HT? right now i have the RC set up, and i am planning to get the veritas speakers. is it a huge upgrade for me interms for watching movies? no music. what are the disadvantage and advantage each set up? thanks a lot.
I have every speaker you have listed except that I have 2.3s instead of 2.4s. The Veritas speakers are just better in general but not by a huge margin in my opinion. The disadvantage is that they are older which means harder to find replacement parts for and out of warranty.

On a side note, I did get the XPA-5 and have listened to Fleetwood Mac's "rumours" album for about 10 minutes. So far I am unimpressed but it is way past my bedtime and tomorrow I will do much more listening.
post #49645 of 51471
Theoretically you should only notice a difference at very high volumes when the receiver's amps are pooping out. Did you really crank it? Don't expect any sonic difference at more "normal" volume levels. (This all assumes of course a relatively well controled test without expectation bias and other confounding variables). Those 2nd gen Veritas aren't super easy speakers to drive but still you may need to get pretty loud to hear a difference. And even then it may be subtle.
post #49646 of 51471
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I have every speaker you have listed except that I have 2.3s instead of 2.4s. The Veritas speakers are just better in general but not by a huge margin in my opinion. The disadvantage is that they are older which means harder to find replacement parts for and out of warranty.

Okay thanks. I guess in keeping my rc's. I thought I'd a huge upgrade interms of watching movies.
post #49647 of 51471
The RCs are already getting to the point of "diminishing returns" in terms of spending a lot more money for better speakers. It would take a lot of money to get a "huge" upgrade. With 2ch music it's easier to hear subtle upgrades in things like detail, transparency, soundstage, etc. but in a big action movie with sh!t blowing up and bullets flying all over not so much.

Also a lot of people keep throwing money at better and better electronics when improving the room acoustics would yield cheaper and better results. Although that does require investment of time to gain knowledge and experiment / measure changes.
post #49648 of 51471
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The RCs are already getting to the point of "diminishing returns" in terms of spending a lot more money for better speakers. It would take a lot of money to get a "huge" upgrade. With 2ch music it's easier to hear subtle upgrades in things like detail, transparency, soundstage, etc. but in a big action movie with sh!t blowing up and bullets flying all over not so much.

Also a lot of people keep throwing money at better and better electronics when improving the room acoustics would yield cheaper and better results. Although that does require investment of time to gain knowledge and experiment / measure changes.

That make sense. The only reason i asked is because someone selling me his 2.4 for a good price. But wife will kill me if i will buy them so i need to sell first my rc set up. But at what you said I'd rather keep my rc and enjoy the show. Thanks again.
post #49649 of 51471
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

That make sense. The only reason i asked is because someone selling me his 2.4 for a good price. But wife will kill me if i will buy them so i need to sell first my rc set up. But at what you said I'd rather keep my rc and enjoy the show. Thanks again.
Unless they are either a REALLY good deal or i series speakers, I would stay with the RCs. Non-i series veritas are prone to woofer freeze which would make me regret my purchase should it ever happen to my speakers. I was fortunate enough to find all i-series speakers from one seller at a good price.
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Theoretically you should only notice a difference at very high volumes when the receiver's amps are pooping out. Did you really crank it? Don't expect any sonic difference at more "normal" volume levels. (This all assumes of course a relatively well controled test without expectation bias and other confounding variables). Those 2nd gen Veritas aren't super easy speakers to drive but still you may need to get pretty loud to hear a difference. And even then it may be subtle.
I honestly never had any issue with getting as much volume as I required out of my AVR and without any signs that it was struggling aside from some extra heat perhaps. After a bit more listening to this amp, I think I've come to the conclusion that amplifying speakers is like wringing water out of a dish cloth. An AVR is like your average joe and will be able to get 90% of the water. A separate amplifier is like bringing in Hulk Hogan to get out that last 10%
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Also a lot of people keep throwing money at better and better electronics when improving the room acoustics would yield cheaper and better results. Although that does require investment of time to gain knowledge and experiment / measure changes.

The guy that I bought the XPA-5 from had a dedicated theater room in his basement and obviously sunk a fair bit of cash into the hobby. He had acoustic panels (six I believe) in his room and said he didn't notice any improvement after adding them.
Edited by brendelac - 11/3/13 at 11:20am
post #49650 of 51471
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Get all 3 speakers and sell the RC LCR to someone here on AVS.

Do you already have a center speakers?
I want a rosenut finish for stereo setup to replace my black 70's, which will move to HT at some point, and I already the center for those.
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