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Originally Posted by wryan View Post

I'm selling my pair of V-6.2 towers in rosenut. If anyone is looking for a pair, especially if you live in the Bay Area, here's the post in the classified section: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1497601/energy-veritas-v-6-2-tower-speakers-piano-rosenut-finish-pair
I would buy them today if I lived in your city ! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

I would buy them today if I lived in your city ! biggrin.gif

The house next door is for sale!
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Oh wow. In mohagony too frown.gif why can't those be in San Diego?

Wonder how many audiophiles there are down there. It's many hours drive from any of the major cities (San Antonio, Houston, etc).
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Wow!!! $800!!!!! why not here in Ohio......
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

If you've got the time, I would love to hear your findings. I'm only about 2 years into my hobby and would love to hear what someone's thoughts are on adding external amplification. I've asked the question before and really never came out with a clear answer.
I've done a bit of 2 channel listening with the RC70s and XPA-5 and so far I would recommend that you save your money. There is a difference, but it just isn't enough to justify the cost in my opinion. As batpig mentioned, the higher the SPL, the more you notice the XPA-5 but I'm talking volumes that are above what I normally listen to and I likes me my rock and roll. Bass is tighter and louder with the Emotiva at higher volumes. If my AVR were lower end, the difference might be more noticeable, but my Denon 3312 does a respectable job. The only multi-channel listening I've heard with the XPA-5 so far is a Jethro Tull concert so my evaluation of the Emotiva may be a bit premature yet.

I haven't made any decisions on what I want to keep and what I want to sell and am not in a position where I need to unload anything (I may very well hang on to it all), but if I did need to free up some cash right now, I'd probably be putting the the Veritas speakers and XPA-5 up for sale and putting the $2500 in the bank and enjoy my RCs and 3312.

I am not an audiophile, am not easily impressed and am a very value-conscious consumer so please take my opinions with a grain of salt.
Edited by brendelac - 11/4/13 at 9:08am
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Hi

Please has anyone got any near-field measurements or links. for Veritas 2.3i (floorstanders)

Thanks in advance
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You aren't going to find any, just like you won't find any measurements for the RC-50 or V6.2.... because nobody wants to review the step-down model in a speaker line! You will almost always find reviews of the flagship (V2.4, RC-70, etc) and often some lower level setup (eg using bookshelfs instead of towers) but never the "almost the best" speaker in a line. At that point the reviewer is going to spend the tiny bit extra for the best speaker.

But may I ask why you need it? I'm sure you've googled and found the numerous measurements of V2.4 available online. The only difference between the V2.3 and V2.4 should be the bass extension due to the extra woofer and bass reflex vent. So just look at graphs like these and pretend there's a little less bass: http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/energy_veritas_v24i.htm
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You aren't going to find any, just like you won't find any measurements for the RC-50 or V6.2.... because nobody wants to review the step-down model in a speaker line! You will almost always find reviews of the flagship (V2.4, RC-70, etc) and often some lower level setup (eg using bookshelfs instead of towers) but never the "almost the best" speaker in a line. At that point the reviewer is going to spend the tiny bit extra for the best speaker.

Thanks for your reply
Very good point.
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But may I ask why you need it?

No worries just wanted to clarify the characteristics and can see sometimes where the crossovers kick in and characteristics of a 3 way speaker.

I currently have a Dspeaker Antimode Dual Core 2.0 so i can compensate a little, don't like to over EQ specially in the 500hz up. Actually i will at some stage do another Auto EQ from 250hz down. I have very large mode at 37hz, room treatment wasn't an option, the Antimode dealt with this very well.

In general from 250hz - 400 are the transition frequencies.
From < 250hz effectively the room is being Eqed and from 250hz > the speaker is being Eqed or adjusted.

I started with a very good "flat" response using 6 - 8 filters on each channel after Auto EQ from 500hz down, but it sounded exactly that "flat" and lost the great imaging and soundstage.

Now i have adjusted only 2 filters in stereo (exactly the same for both channels) all the imaging and soundstage has come back and using the shelf filters gives me flexibility to adjust easily.
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I'm sure you've googled and found the numerous measurements of V2.4 available online. The only difference between the V2.3 and V2.4 should be the bass extension due to the extra woofer and bass reflex vent. So just look at graphs like these and pretend there's a little less bass: http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/energy_veritas_v24i.htm

I run 2 x REL Strata 5s so low bass is not a problem.

I tried the 2.4s but where rear ported as well as front ported (2.3 front ported only) and they boomed big time.

Thanks for that yep seen these too.

Thanks again
Edited by Phillips751 - 11/5/13 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I've done a bit of 2 channel listening with the RC70s and XPA-5 and so far I would recommend that you save your money. There is a difference, but it just isn't enough to justify the cost in my opinion. As batpig mentioned, the higher the SPL, the more you notice the XPA-5 but I'm talking volumes that are above what I normally listen to and I likes me my rock and roll. Bass is tighter and louder with the Emotiva at higher volumes. If my AVR were lower end, the difference might be more noticeable, but my Denon 3312 does a respectable job. The only multi-channel listening I've heard with the XPA-5 so far is a Jethro Tull concert so my evaluation of the Emotiva may be a bit premature yet.

I haven't made any decisions on what I want to keep and what I want to sell and am not in a position where I need to unload anything (I may very well hang on to it all), but if I did need to free up some cash right now, I'd probably be putting the the Veritas speakers and XPA-5 up for sale and putting the $2500 in the bank and enjoy my RCs and 3312.

I am not an audiophile, am not easily impressed and am a very value-conscious consumer so please take my opinions with a grain of salt.

Thank you for your input. Very much appreciated. Looks like I will not be spending money on an amp any time soon. Thanks again. I would love to invest in room treatments, but don't think the WAF would allow that. I will be saving my money for that Denon X4000 so I can get Audessey XT32 and hopefully a new Panny VT60, as long as the stock doesn't dry up on those in the next couple months.
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Just got an email from Amazon: Veritas 6.3 in Piano Rosenut for $600 ea
6.2 are also available for $400 ea
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

Just got an email from Amazon: Veritas 6.3 in Piano Rosenut for $600 ea
6.2 are also available for $400 ea
I'm not sure if this was missed or not but Sound Distributors has them for $599 OBO,Authorized retailer. They have black or rosenut.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-V-6-3-Tower-Speaker-Rosenut-Each-/310643807404?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item4853d054ac
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The seller on Amazon is also Sound Distributors.
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

I'm not sure if this was missed or not but Sound Distributors has them for $599 OBO,Authorized retailer. They have black or rosenut.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-V-6-3-Tower-Speaker-Rosenut-Each-/310643807404?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item4853d054ac

Wonder what they're accepting as a best offer on the Veritas 6.3? Could they go as low as $500? $550?

I don't need any so not willing to make an offer.
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If they blew them out like the RC-70's at $400 I might "need" a pair =D
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Wonder what they're accepting as a best offer on the Veritas 6.3? Could they go as low as $500? $550?

I don't need any so not willing to make an offer.

In all the debate between these and RC70s, was one common feeling that the 6.3's are better for home theater whereas the RC70's are better for music? Or am I thinking of a different comparison?

I'll be finishing my basement quasi-theater soon, which would be used for < 10% music. Not only would a good deal on these speakers be welcomed, the Rosenut color is a perfect fit.

I could be willing to offer $500 and see what happens. Then I'd have to find the best deal on the V5.2 center and maybe a pair of the V-S surrounds.
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Originally Posted by tcramer View Post

In all the debate between these and RC70s, was one common feeling that the 6.3's are better for home theater whereas the RC70's are better for music? Or am I thinking of a different comparison?
Then I'd have to find the best deal on the V5.2 center and maybe a pair of the V-S surrounds.
I do recall reading someone stating that they preferred the veritas for theater use and the RCs for music. I'm thinking it may have been losservatore.

I have a pair of VS surrounds and three V5.2C's for sale but shipping would be costly across the border.
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

Thanks again. I would love to invest in room treatments, but don't think the WAF would allow that. I will be saving my money for that Denon X4000 so I can get Audessey XT32 and hopefully a new Panny VT60, as long as the stock doesn't dry up on those in the next couple months.

I have a Yamaha Z9 + Dspeaker Antimode dual Core 2.0 with Veritas 2.3i (floorstanders) + a measuring system.

Never liked the Z9s YPAO PEQ, so tried and invested in the Antimode (what a great unit more than meets the eye).

The Antimode did a great job with the bass calibration (in my case 0 - 500hz) and because it has 16 filters (never use this many) + shelf filters + house curve for the bass, delay for full range and the list goes on. Also it is so tiny. Bass is the biggest problem (actually its the room that is the biggest problem).

If you have good imaging you only want to use stereo filters (filters with identical parameters) and use the shelf filters (tone controls).

Basically from 0 - 250hz is the room, 250hz - 20khz is the characteristics of your speaker.

Just giving you an extra option.
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

got it...

Maybe you should contact cityinruin, he's looking for a RC LCR. Been looking for over a year.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/630450/energy-owners-thread/49140#post_23710719

C R A P !

We had initiated contact but then i got sent out of town on contracting work and didnt get to finalize. Now it's sold.

I hate everything....


Anyone else have an LCR for sale? or know someone that does? or have a recommendation on what to pay for it?
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Well, my rosewood finished C-8's have moved onto a happy new home. :-)
A nice gentleman came and auditioned them last weekend, and was very pleased in both their form and function. He also happens to have a Denon 4311, so that put me at ease as far as his capabilities in driving the equipment. I also was able to forward him onto our thread here, as well as to batpigs website, as I think he'll be able to gets more mileage out of his 4311 with more extensive XT 32 calibration. Overall sad to see them go a little bit, but I was able to get what I hoped for them, while also feeling very fair in selling someone is very nice… And beautiful… set of speakers. :-)
Fun to mention, he was also previously the original buyer of a five speaker RVS set up, so he has been into Energy land before. Was crazy to hear how much Energy speakers costed retail… but I'm guessing he got his money's worth over the years; those still remain some very nice speakers. smile.gif

Now if I could just figure out how to swap that tweeter out of my C-6, Life would be complete! Is there any chance that if I emailed energy they might have any old repair documentation on how to open them up? I'm assuming it is something they didn't want to be easily done, Outside of their own facilities or repair locations.
I can't help but think that someone on here has had to swap one out at one point in time or another, but so far no word. ;-)
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

I'm not sure if this was missed or not but Sound Distributors has them for $599 OBO,Authorized retailer. They have black or rosenut.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Veritas-V-6-3-Tower-Speaker-Rosenut-Each-/310643807404?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item4853d054ac

Ohhhh my... 1200 for a veritas 6.3 pair ( they might actually go down to 1000 a pair...)?!?

I've been struggling with the idea of upgrading from rc70 to 6.3, but the difference in cost for the marginal sound quality difference always prevented me from doing so... But I still drool over my veritas 5.2c looks, and until then, I've resisted the charms of a complete veritas setup.

But , even withconsidering the fact that the seller would surely lower the price a little, I consider myself lucky living in Canada. The shipping costs automatically refrains me from a self induced upgraditis crisis =D

Would be so f'n nice if star trek teleportation pods could exist right now... ( though they might actually charge the triple because its instant. errr)

Until then, I'll kick myself in the nuts to stay loyal to my faithful rc70in if I see that pricing at future shop!
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Originally Posted by tcramer View Post

In all the debate between these and RC70s, was one common feeling that the 6.3's are better for home theater whereas the RC70's are better for music? Or am I thinking of a different comparison?

I'll be finishing my basement quasi-theater soon, which would be used for < 10% music. Not only would a good deal on these speakers be welcomed, the Rosenut color is a perfect fit.

I could be willing to offer $500 and see what happens. Then I'd have to find the best deal on the V5.2 center and maybe a pair of the V-S surrounds.

Rosenut V5.2 center from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Veritas-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B005APT1FK
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Rosenut V5.2 center from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Veritas-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B005APT1FK

Thanks afrogt, I had seen that too. $289 for the center and if somehow the 6.3's were obtainable for $500 - $550 each, does that sound like a pretty great deal?
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Well, if you want Energy Rosenut Veritas speakers, that's seems to be the only deal available....

I don't even know where else you can get Veritas Rosenut towers.
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I doubt they go lower but who knows ,I paid $600 each almost 2 years ago since that time I haven't see a sale like this ...
Edited by losservatore - 11/8/13 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I do recall reading someone stating that they preferred the veritas for theater use and the RCs for music. I'm thinking it may have been losservatore.

I have a pair of VS surrounds and three V5.2C's for sale but shipping would be costly across the border.
Those VS surrounds are great speakers. I'd like to have a pair for surround backs.
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Looks like there are some RC 70's back at Frys
http://www.frys.com/product/7386304?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
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I'm trying to experiment going back to 5.2.if im placing my surrounds speakers like this and switch it to bipole mode is that fine that the speakers are facing like that? Or i need to angle the speakers? I appreciate for any response thanks

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That ad has been there for ages....check your local store quantity by adding your zip code to the store locater and you may get lucky.
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

I'm trying to experiment going back to 5.2.if im placing my surrounds speakers like this and switch it to bipole mode is that fine that the speakers are facing like that? Or i need to angle the speakers? I appreciate for any response thanks


If I'm not wrong, I think they'd be best firing from higher than ear level for best surround effect, and I think your best pick would be to wallmount them... Anyone can confirm it?
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