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Energy Sound System - How does it look? How do these prices look?

Speaker system budget: $400-$500

Use: Strictly surround sound for tv/bluray

Room Size: 17ft long x 13ft wide (tv/receiver sits facing opposing wall narrow way - 13ft). Room has vaulted ceiling that is 12ft tall in the middle.


Considering this setup:

Energy C-C100 Center $114 free shipping
Energy C-100 pair L/R $118 free shipping
Energy C-100 pair surrounds $118 free shipping
Dayton SUB-120 HT Series 12" 150 Watt Powered Subwoofer $186 shipped

= $536 total
How do those numbers look? Good prices or can I do better?

On a side note, would it be worth getting the Energy C-300's for the front instead of the Energy C-100's? The c-300 are about 2x the price of the c-100's; think they are worth it though? If I got the C-300's I would have to run a 5.0 setup till I had the cash to pick up a cheap sub..


Given my budget and needs do you think I could build a better setup?

Oh, and by the way I have considered the Energy C-300 5.0 set from Bob & Ron's WorldWideStereo for $399 but I figure I probably get more bang for the buck buying individually. (for about the same price I get a C-C100 instead of the kits C-C50. and I get C-100 surrounds instead of C-50's. so the C-300's are the only good deal in the mix...)

...or do you think the C-300 5.0 kit would be enough for my smallish living room?



Thanks
David

The c-300s in a 5.0 setup is what I would do, then buy a sub in the future.

Has anyone heard or own a Dayton Sub?

I am considering picking one up after hearing very good things about them (in terms of bang for the buck performance on budget). Seems like a good deal at $155 for a powered 12" 150watt sub, right


Dayton SUB-120 HT Series 12" 150 Watt Powered Subwoofer

The Dayton Audio SUB-120 is the perfect subwoofer for medium to large home theaters or listening rooms. A 150 watt amp, long-throw front firing 12" driver, and dual rear ports produce impressively deep and powerful bass. The amplifier features high and low level inputs, filtered high and low level outputs, phase switch, volume control, auto on/off (activated by an input signal) and a variable 12 dB/octave electronic low pass filter. This subwoofer reproduces serious low-frequency bass that will rival the performance of much more expensive subwoofers. Specifications: *12" long throw woofer *150 watt amp *Low pass filter: 40~180 Hz, 12 dB/octave *Frequency response: 25-180 Hz *Exterior dimensions: 14-3/4" W x 17-5/8" H x 18" D.

House shaking power Front firing 12" long-throw woofer
150 watt amplifier Unobtrusive "Black Ash" finish



http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-635

Does anyone know a site that has black macromounts in stock? Audio Advisor only has them in white and onecall is out of stock. Thanks.

Audioadvisor is showing them in black for me:

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATMAC

Audio Advisor's site just lists items, it does not display if they actually have the item in stock. You have to call them to find out, which I did, white only.

wow - I already sent you a PM but just to reiterate, I apologize if my words were taken as rude!! It certainly wasn't my intent, so apologies for any misunderstanding

my only points were that:

1. 7.1 may not be necessary and
2. if you really do want 7.1, the difference between C-50 vs. C-100 for rear surrounds is likely so minuscule that it's not worth obsessing about, and convenience factors (like not having large speakers dangling off the wall) may outweigh any incremental gain.

So sorry again! My advice is go with what you feel comfortable with sitting in the back of the room, you are going to have to look at them every day when the stereo is off in addition to hearing them! If it's more important to have the best-possible-system, screw the inconvenience of mounting/size, get the C-100's and don't look back. If it's more important to minimize the "room impact" of the rears, get the C-50's and don't sweat the difference as it is likely minimal at best

I guess my main point is: you are in a win/win situation here, so relax and enjoy

Just called this site and he just ran out but already ordered more and will have them by the end of the week. He said go ahead and order them on the website and they'll ship before the weekend. Free shipping too. You can call to verify if you feel like it.

http://www.customsoundco.com/Product...D=13&Special=1

Custom Sound Company
54 East 2700 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84115
Local: (801) 486-7090
Toll Free: 1-800-486-7090

This might have been said already but it is not as crucial to have the surround and rear speakers match. Most of the sound comes from the front left/center/right speakers, the others are just background/ambient noise for the most part. Do you think there will be a noticeable difference in what you hear between the C50s and C100s for ambient? It would be a different story if you where boggling your mind with this over fronts, but they are just rear surrounds!

I understand you want the C100s and for $20 more, why not, buy what you want, better than regretting it later and having to replace them down the road. Ultimately it won't make a huge difference. I would get the C100s if I were you, and this is why....go big or go home.

Hey k40k -- how's that ESW-V8 working out for you? Now that someone besides mouettus owns one, let's hear a review

The ESW-V8 (actually probably will be the Mirage Prestige S8 as it's cheaper and more available in the US) is the leading candidate to replace my BIC VK-12 when I "downsize", once I can find a buyer.

Rear surrounds: Energy C-50's vs C-R100's?

Which would you choose for 90% movie use?

In general, the recommendation is for the SIDES to be bipoles (C-R100) and the rears to be monopoles (i.e. C-50). However, some folks (Joseph Clark for example) use bipoles for all four speakers; I think if you have a very large room and/or really want to create that huge, diffuse soundstage of a movie theater, then C-R100's would be a good choice, but if you already have C-R100's on the sides and it's not a giant space you will probably be fine with C-50's in back.

If you do some google searches you will find there is a ton of discussion and not a great deal of consensus on monopole vs. bipole for rear surrounds (or sides for that matter).

The room is 13ft x 17ft with a 12ft vaulted ceiling. TV is facing opposing wall short way (13ft)

I just received the C-C100 on Friday. It truly is an amazing speaker. I've had the C-100's in place for the past month with my old DCM center (which had a great run). While I have no basis of comparison with the C-C50, the C-C100 really completes this system being the real 'centerpiece' of this Energy system. The bass out of this thing is very strong, yet not too boomy. I'm glad I put in the extra effort trying to find it. - Very significant improvement to the audio!

Glad that worked out for you. That would be terrible to have both arrived damaged.

Talked to WWstereo this morning. She said that they would ship another one when UPS picked up this one. Pretty friendly customer service rep. also.

Thanks. Good price and free shipping!

Also, when that speaker arrived the corner braces were all busted.

As a courtesy to WWstereo, I used packaging tape to piece all of the styrofoam corner braces back together and stuck some bubble wrap in there.

I'm very interested in this as well.

I'm currently debating between the Prestige S8 or HSU STF-1 (or possibly, although less likely, a Velodyne/Chrysalis Impact/Starfire-8) to replace my tSC ASW-8 in my bedroom.

The Mirage looks nicer than the HSU, and it alot smaller...just wondering if it is as tight and musical - HSU has a rep for this. Also, wondering if there are any issues with port noise with the Prestige.

from what I've heard, "tight" and "musical" is the real strong point of the Veritas/Prestige subs. like you say, the fact that the V8/S8 is much better looking than the HSU, and has a much smaller footprint, is a big bonus to me. I'm sure either one would be one heck of a bedroom sub!

Mitch, out of curiosity how was the speakers internal packaging when you opened it?

Like I said in a previous post, this is on my computer system (C-7s and ESW-V8 powered by a Parasound 275) in my 9x11 bedroom. While the ESW-V8 blends very well and handles great with music, I have yet to experience it for watching movies, but I'm sure it would do quite well as it does with all other computer-related audio.

I used to have the S8.2 for this, but I find the V8 to have a cleaner tone and higher quality of low frequencies. "tight" and "musical" is a good description. I have the volume 1 notch past half way and I find it has a lot of power for an 8", very accurate and hits low/deep. Though I have not heard HSU so I can not make a comparison.

Now the aesthetics... it looks very stylish, small and compact for easy placement. Also has a nice rear panel for crossovers and auto-on. It does not have a speaker "out" so if your amp/receiver doesn't have a pre-out for sub, just tie the wires together and put them to the "in".

http://www.geocities.com/knight_40k/compsys.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/knight_40k/compsys2.jpg

Now before you say anything, I know I am not getting the best sound flow because I am sitting close to the towers, but I have no complaints. I used to have RC-Minis on the wall and they sat slightly higher than the tweeters are on my C7s just further away from my head. Either way, I prefer it this way because the C7s have way more impact (duh ) and full range sound. And I can always slide back and listen at a proper level.

ok so I picked up a small kit for my room

got a pair of RC-10's and a Velodyne DSP 12" sub

got a great great great great great price on this kit, but in terms of sound quality, what do you guys think?

I heard the RC-10s and I was blown away and the 12" sub gave off some amazing bass

Haven't actually heard the 10s myself, but have heard good things about them. The sub is same one I use with my HT, I like it. Sounds like a good system to me. What are you using to driving them?

Well I just received my speakers from wwstereo. I had them shipped to work so they didn't sit on my front porch all day. I didn't want to unpack them all at work to inspect, so I waited till I got home. Every speaker was perfect except one of the C-300's. It looks like it was dropped at some point. One of the corners is really nicked bad and you can see where the Styrofoam took the hit because it's in three pieces. I will have to give them a call tomorrow to send out a replacement.

I must say that's interesting that they automatically sent out new ones for michdanderson and will e-mail a return tag, but for Tuba4me they are waiting for his damaged one before shipping.

the biggest catch would be the amp
id be running it off a high end sony amp (dont know the model) but its from the 90s lol

borrowing it from my dad till i choose an amp for myself

that's cool, amps from the 90's amplify a signal just like they do now!

RC-10's + a nice sub is a pretty sweet 2.1 setup for a small room, you should really enjoy it.

sorry for being so audio inclined hah

[quote=batpig;16053792]wow - I already sent you a PM but just to reiterate, I apologize if my words were taken as rude!! It certainly wasn't my intent, so apologies for any misunderstanding

my only points were that:

1. 7.1 may not be necessary and
2. if you really do want 7.1, the difference between C-50 vs. C-100 for rear surrounds is likely so minuscule that it's not worth obsessing about, and convenience factors (like not having large speakers dangling off the wall) may outweigh any incremental gain.

I am SOOOO VERY sorry I blew off my rocker at you. I was over-worked, too tired, and too hungry. Aftger some much need sleep and this day off, I am dis-appointed in myself for blowing off last night... Real assh*le I was, sorry.

Weekend work is so very stressful, and by Sunday night, I am drained. The HT system learning curve is way of having an outlet to vent the brain.

Once it is all done and completed, what is next to drain the brain?

I agree with you a 7.1 system in an apartment is overkill. Yet, Blue Ray will one day become the standard, and so will 7.1 soundtracks. It is that thought that makes me want to have the speakers (a matching set now), but once again, the rear surrounds in an apt really create a spacing problem that I have no good solution.

However Apt living is not a long term thing, so there will be space for them at some point later in a better place. I just need someone to offer some comon sense. The C-100s may be great, but they are huge compared to the C-50 in size and weight. So if the sound difference is marginal at best for HT, it is not worth it.

On the otherhand, what about 7.1 music that I know nothing about? So this is where I fall in the Y in the road. Is it any good, or is it just too much music comming from every which way.

Anyone listening to Stereo in 7.1 mode? How about 5.1 mode, or is 2.1 still the preferred format?

OK, I am off the toliet and human again, soory everyone.

I received my C-300s a week ago from WW and all was fine, so I'm sorry to see you had trouble. I also got the C-C50's from them, and same thing, all was received fine.

Yeah, I thought that was interesting too. I will be curious to know what they tell you.





I guess it's just part of the risk of shipping items such as a c-300. It's a good thing for the UPS insurance!