Energy Owners Thread - Page 300

Do we need to keep the energy boxes for warranty purposes? Because if not, I'd like to throw them out cause they take up so much space! Do you guys keep them?

Unnecessary! Please put an end to this now. This is a civil thread and this exchange violates its spirit.

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I kept mine for about 2 months just incase. Not sure on warranty, but the only reason I kept mine was for the return policy of the store I bought it from.

Wahoo ENERGY!

I would try to keep them just incase you need a box for shipping, warranty, etc. You never know and if you have some extra attic space then why not!

Ahh the days of the Sansui speaker and those big woofers! I was always partial to AR speakers back then. I still miss my AR11s. Memories of a Dual turntable, Shure cartridges, Teac tape decks.....

You are right.. the pluming has gotten very complicated...

If you guys feel the need to argue, do it via pm.

About one month ago, I did a melt down here.. And I understand your words totally. Thank you sooooo much, for sometimes, I feel alone in this...

And I agree with you too.

And then later... My problem was, I miss read what people were trying to say to me.

I am not saying, this applies to you, OK?

If this helps, I work in a Hospital, worked too many hours, too little sleep, not enough Sex , no food, and I was not happy at all, with the responses I was getting here.

It also made it easier to lash out at the ones that were trying to help me.

But this is just me, not you, OK. I hate it when you place you heart and money in this "Stuff", and it does not always work out.

That is why we have this great forum here!

Ummm What is going on guys ... this is a speaker forum and i reading guys posting about not having enough sex?? Perhaps AVSforums needs a sex life post home theater pending spouse approval thread.

OK, That in part is my adding. I was just try to let it go as OK, for about 1 month ago, I blasted here too...

So in the interst of blasting, I wish to

"Bump"

My Question about Subs...

Is there any difference between a down firing, or front firing SUB?

Last, which is worse for a 2nd floor Apt dweller?

Come on I am trying to be like Bose! Don't you want to pay more for your equipment than you should? I am sorry but my work attitude took over as I am a Vice President for AIG.

Thanks for the info and I'll drop the price. I'll try $75.00 and offers and see what happens.

I had no idea the stands that came the the Encore 2's were so much $$$ but that bracket on the back of the speaker and the amount of adjustment you have is pretty cool.

My wife is getting tired of the stereo being on all the time as I just can't seem to stop listening to all our music again.

I can totally relate to what your saying. I'm 54 and I still have my old Sansui SP7500x speakers. A pair of true full range speakers. These baby's have 16.5" woofers 8" mids and dual tweeters. They can be set to whatever you like, the crossover is set on the speaker. You can have bright, neutral or flat. I don't think the guys on here truely appreciate what these speakers are. To replace them today you would have to spend $2500 - $3000 EACH to buy something that comes close to these. I have them and a pair of slightly newer Sansui SPX7700. The only difference with this pair is the mids are only 4" everything else is the same. The 4 are currently setup in my basement and if I were to really crank them the neighbors would be calling the police lol. You should feel the wind coming off the woofers lol. You can blow out a candle with these things.

Bill

I recently found a CC1 to compliment my C-9's. Actually I managed to find a brand new one. Anyways my question is when I set it up on my Onkyo 606 and ran Audessy program has set the CC1 at full range. Is this right or should I manually change this.
Thanks
Andy

Wow, this synopsis needs to be bookmarked! Thanks for ur $0.02

I will have to definitely try to audition the C-series now!

Guys, I'm at a cross roads here and i need your help deciding what would be best. Here is my scenario. Sorry i don't have my room dimesions handy but I would consider it a medium sized living room, carpeted with vaulted type ceiling. I don't have a receiver yet but I am purchasing the speakers first and I am dead set on Energy speakers.
I have a $400 budget for the speakers, looking at wwstereo I can either pick the 5.1 Take Classic with the s8.3 sub or I can go with the c-300 5 speakers setup for the same price.
The issue is that I won't have any cash to lay down for a sub-woofer any time soon so would you pick the take system with the sub or the c-300 system without the sub? thanks for your input guys. Oh, also this setup will be used primarlty for TV/movies and such with a little bit of music listening.

My 606 did the same thing with my C500's -- all 4 of them. It actually even set my center channel to full as well. It did set my sub at 80hz. I just adjusted the xover to 80hz on everything else and it sounds great.

I think it becomes personal preference at that point, but the general concensus will be set to 80hz.

Adam

To me, this is easy. Either Energy setup is a setup that I think should last you MANY years and not something you will just throw away anytime soon. So, IMO, get the C300 setup (which should still do nice on bass w/o a sub), and when you can afford it add a sub. Keep in mind your sub does NOT need to match the rest of your speakers, so don't worry about only looking at Energy branded subs.

Adam

Adam.....thanks for the input, originally I had my heart set on the take classic setup but the c-300 setup seems like a better value plus, just as you said a sub can be purchased at a later date but do you really think it will be satisfying to run this setup without a sub for quite some time? I'm telling myself yes but i just want to be sure.

Isriam, without double checking I think Batpig made this suggestion to someone else earlier, don't use 5 channel stereo for music listening. Use Dolby or DTS music or some other receiver setting. For me it made a big difference.

I would definitely go with the C-300 speaker set up. Either system should be fine, but the C-300 is a better deal IMO. You can save up for a decent entry level sub later. I would recommend something like the PA-120 which can be had for about $230.

You say you don't have a receiver yet. Are there particular models that you are looking at right now?

For me, this would be a no-brainer. The C series has plenty of punch on the low end. I haven't heard the Take's, but the consensus here is that they lack the full range of sound of the Cs. When you're ready for the extra punch of a sub, you can add one. On the other hand, if you want fuller sound, a sub isn't going to do that for the Take's.

Hello gentlemen, do you know where I can get the port plugs and spikes for the RC-70's. Order them from Energy? What would be the best choice to replace the spikes? Thanks.

I am in a similar situation and got a forward firing sub just to be safe. Honestly I am not entirely sure how much it matters, a search will probably yield a better answer.

michanderson.......thanks for the repy and I have been looking at receivers and just like the speakers i'm on a tight budget but I have been looking at the following but still undecided. What are your thoughts?

• Denon1909
• Denon 788
• Onkyo 606
• Onkyo TX-SR805

Chalk up another one for the C-300 setup! They have better parts, look much nicer and that should be a big plus seeing how their going in your living room. Like someone already said, don't just look at Energy subs (though they are going decently cheap here and there), you should be able to pick one up that will do the job in a med. sized living room for about $150 or so. If you live in a populated area then check your local www.craigslist.org to see if there's any HT subs that might fit the bill. The SQ from the C-300 setup will be much better and even though you won't have a sub, you'll still have a decent amount of bass for the time being. Good luck and let us know what ya end up doin!

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Yeah I'd just give Energy a call today. Their parts department is really helpful and they seem to stock almost everything and ship it right away.

OR!

You can trade me my C-500's with spikes and we can call it even





With the new Onkyo line coming out (might already be out), you might be able to snag some pretty good deals on the 606 and espc. the 805 seeing how its almost 3 years old correct? I just got a Yamaha 663 and love the way it sounds with Energy. The only thing about Onkyo is their over heating problem so make sure you have plenty of space for it to breathe so it doesn't start messing up. I'd ask this ? over in the AVR forum though b/c those guys know MUCH more about the tech and deals on all AVR's.

This is the EXACT example i used to underscore how non-fatiguing and non-overbearing the C-series speakers are. My previous speakers were Sony's, and the screams were unbearable. My favorite thing about the C-Series speakers is that I can turn the volume up to -20 to -15 and NOT feel like i'm blasting it too much. This is great in a small room, nay, ideal! My old speakers literally attacked you in a whirlwind of trebles and it gave you a false sense of high volume when in reality, it was just the high's (and sometimes the boomy bass) creating this. Balanced is what these speakers are. The reason I know this, is because I can turn the volume sometimes up to -15 in an apartment and still not get these astronimcal peaks and not feel fatigued. Subdude helps too.

My room is about 12x20, and i'm in an apartment, so i'm using C-100's as mains complimented with a sub. My one gripe about the C-Series was that they needed a touch more brightness to them. Last night however I tried re-running Audyssey after a few weeks. I was beginning to think something was missing in the sound - the speakers were sounding almost too flat, or too "warm." I'm not sure whether I ran a better session of Audyssey, whether it was because I angled the center speaker down a little more, whether it was break-in time, or it just being late, but the speakers sounded much better. They sounded a touch more bright than before, which is what they were needing.

Audyssey just has to be done right, with a quiet room, right mic placement etc. After experience, I think the quiet is the most important factor. It's also the most frustrating thing to get right. If I were to run Audyssey at 3AM on a Monday I swear a marching band would spontaneously appear outside my window and blow their tubas and hit drums to king's hell volume until the test tones end, and then it's back to Amish community levels of silent night. When I do find that small window of time where the world shuts up for 6 minutes then everything sounds fantastic. Once all of this is done right, you don't need things like Re-EQ or THX modes. People comment on the bass being too low with Audyssey. To each his own, but assuming all placement/settings are right, this is how it's supposed to be. If it's not enough bass for me I turn the volume up, and before I know it I'm realizing that it is possible to play somewhat close to reference level without blowing my roof off or having compliants from neighbors.

I'm trying hard to like these speakers and I think it's going to pay off.

I'm sure it was a combination of everything that made the speakers open up a bit more. It seems every time I listen to mine they sound different and get a bit more "bright" or highish. I don't want to use 'bright' because thats not really what these speakers are but the break-in def. helps them.

Is Aud. really that crazy about it being quiet? I've heard all the stories and they all are like yours haha. Seems if a pen drops then its ruined! At least you know its working well!

I actually just got the go ahead from the wifey to spend the extra $50 and get the C-300 speaker setup with the C-R100 surrounds for a total of $450!!!
Do you guys think it's worth the extra $50 to get the R100 surrounds?
Also, I can't pull the trigger on this until about Wednesday of next week, do you think they will still be available? What about promo codes, are there any available? Thanks again for everyones input.