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post #31 of 510
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Originally Posted by dark1x View Post

Thanks for the tip. I'll trying bringing down the brightness a bit more tonight and see what happens.

Is it safe to use the black bar setting, by the way? I've heard both sides of this. They say that black isn't going to burn-in, but rather, the sharp contrast between the central frame and those bars will cause the problems. However, gray bars still result in a similar situation. I'm uncertain.

Also, regarding burn-in time, would something as simple as "television fuzz" (when selecting a channel that doesn't exist) work? I'd like to reach the 100 hours as fast as possible, and that would be something I could begin immediately.


Well, to clear this one up, I was actually using a component connection. I ran the component video into my receiver and then, using the component video output on the receiver, sent it to the TV. Both 360 and the PS2 were running through component. However, the cables I used for the three video connections were actually just a set of three cables (yellow, white, red). That's all I had handy at the time and didn't bother to replace the thing, cheap cables as they didn't make a difference on the CRT. It seems that they may be making a difference here, however.

Sorry for misunderstanding... I have heard of people doing this with the cables, but have never tried it myself.

I have used the "fuzz" before one time when I had some slight image retention and it worked... anything basically that keeps the pixels active will work. The set has a white wash thing you can do too but I have never tried that one. I would not worry too much about the bars being black, the set uses a pixel shift feature that will move the image very slightly about every 30 seconds. When you are close to the TV and have a still image on there (I notice this playing PGR3 while waiting in a lobby or something) you can actually see it. I watch DVD's with the letterbox all the time and haven't had a problem at all. Of course, I broke the set in first. I have heard of speculation about the "black" pixels in the letterbox wearing at an uneven rate as opposed to the active ones, which makes sense, but I don't think something like this would be noticeable in the usable life (say 8 - 10 years most people will keep a TV) of the set. CRT's have the same "issue" and people never worried about those. If you want to break the set in quickly, loop a DVD and let it run for hours... just be sure to zoom in to rid of the black bars for this time.
post #32 of 510
dark1x:

Black bars will not "burn-in", but they can cause uneven aging of the phosphors. The area that is black will not age at the same rate as the area that is lit up. If used for a long enough period of time, the area occupied by the black bars would appear brighter with normal material. How long a period of time is that? I could not even venture a guess.

Actual "burn-in" is caused by excessively bright objects that are stationary on the screen for long periods of time. The phospors will actually age more quickly, and fail to light as brightly in that area. Truely burned phospors will probably never be equal to the rest of the screen again.

Image retention can be caused by bright objects also, but is usually a temporary problem.

Under normal video usage, I wouldn't worry about any of the problems. If you do gaming that has a lot of bright stationary outlines, or objects, then keep your contrast turned down to 40 or less. Using DVE you can set brightness using one of the "video black" frames. Adjust 'brightness' to the point that just extinguishes the phospors. There will still be some lightness to the screen, but you will not see any of the individual pixels lighting up.

Duke
post #33 of 510
One other question...

The manual claims that the HDMI ports should never be used with a computer. Why is this? Is this the result of a technical issue or a licensing one?

I would like to try this, as the VGA port is limited in resolution.
post #34 of 510
I was able to get one from Sears this week during a pretty good sale (won't mention prices of course, but let's just say that it appears it may have been a misprint or some sort of price mistake).

In any event, I bought the TV sight unseen. It's still in the box, as I don't plan to break it out until we move into our new house mid-March. I had been looking for a decent deal on the big Sony LCOS (SXRD XBR 60") for the family room, but then jumped all over this one, as I had planned to get a 42" for the bedroom as well.

As it turns out, I bought the MBR TV first, and we'll continue to see what makes sense for the FR, but I digress.

Thoughts on this TV? Is it a keeper? Any recommended settings? I expect we'll mostly be watching DTV at night in bed after the boys are asleep. Prolly no DVDs.
post #35 of 510
If you got it for the 600 off the sale price you got a steal. Most Sears would not honor the mistake in the ad. The unit is definetly a keeper, particularly at that price. It has its own thread. Run a search and you'll find it. Everything you need to know is covered. Setting recommendations also covered although there is likely some variability from unit to unit.
post #36 of 510
This plasma is definitely a keeper. I own this very model and have been very pleased so far with the PQ especially in HD.
post #37 of 510
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Originally Posted by perfect5storm View Post

If you got it for the 600 off the sale price you got a steal. Most Sears would not honor the mistake in the ad.

seriously id like to know which idiot employee was stupid enough to sell it to you for that price.. its only $100 over the buying price that sears gets it for apparently
post #38 of 510
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post

seriously id like to know which idiot employee was stupid enough to sell it to you for that price.. its only $100 over the buying price that sears gets it for apparently

What is the Sear's buying price? I went to my local A/V store and they said they couldn't even match Sear's sales price because it was cost to them. I often can't tell if they are being truthful or if they just don't want to back off full retail. I really wanted the 42HPX95 but they wouldn't budge. Oh well, I get a great plasma and save some coin anyways!

D
post #39 of 510
Thanks guys. I did in fact get it for that silly price this past week, and based on your comments, I guess I'll keep it (I'm sure it'll be fine).

I did see that thread on the HPX, but didn't think that it was essentially the same box. Guess I'll do a little research to learn the difference between my HP and that HPX, and then read-through the HPX thread to learn about break-in, recommended settings, etc.

Thanks!
post #40 of 510
I am looking for a stand for my new 50HP95. I want it to be approx. 50 inch wide, have a back cover & prefer glass & silver style. Any ideas?

John in Iowa
post #41 of 510
The HPX is the same TV only with extra features. Also, keep in mind Sears' return policy if you are not going to open until later. There is always a possibility (with any TV) that you will have a problem and need to return or exchange.
post #42 of 510
Threads Merged!

Dave
post #43 of 510
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Originally Posted by D-Rex View Post

What is the Sear's buying price? I went to my local A/V store and they said they couldn't even match Sear's sales price because it was cost to them. I often can't tell if they are being truthful or if they just don't want to back off full retail. I really wanted the 42HPX95 but they wouldn't budge. Oh well, I get a great plasma and save some coin anyways!

D

Moderator

Folks:

Please do not ask for price, or discuss price. There is only one price as far as AVS is concerned, and that is MSRP.

Thanks all
post #44 of 510
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Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post

Moderator

Folks:

Please do not ask for price, or discuss price. There is only one price as far as AVS is concerned, and that is MSRP.

Thanks all


So, discussing "cost" is also out of bounds?

Thanks,

D
post #45 of 510
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Originally Posted by D-Rex View Post

So, discussing "cost" is also out of bounds?

Thanks,

D

That would be talking price, and yes, out of bounds.
post #46 of 510
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Originally Posted by slider33 View Post

You can set the bars to black by going into the power saving menu.

For the black flickering, turn the brightness down. DVE wanted me to set the brightness WAY too high as to what looks best IMO. DVE wanted it around 60 and I have it at 44-46 depending upon the source.

Odd, for me DVE has me at 44.

BTW on my set it seems like levels go in blocks of 4 numbers. E.g., 47-50 are all identical then it jumps in brightness at 51-54 and so on. This is true for all the color adjustments. Is this normal?
post #47 of 510
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Originally Posted by BCerveny View Post

Odd, for me DVE has me at 44.

BTW on my set it seems like levels go in blocks of 4 numbers. E.g., 47-50 are all identical then it jumps in brightness at 51-54 and so on. This is true for all the color adjustments. Is this normal?


That's the way it is. This does not allow for very fine black level adjustment, and the steps for brightness centering in the service menu are no finer. I'm not sure how other brands are at this. It doesn't appear to hurt video processing though.

The brightness setting will vary depending on your DVD player and how the TV is set up in the service menu. As long as you are set at the point where the pixels just go dark on the DVE "video black" frames, your adjustment should be right. It is easiest to do this in a totally dark room, and note that the sceen will still be lit, but no pixels will be firing.

Duke
post #48 of 510
Scaling issue: I read some posts in NEC 50XR5A's forum. They claim this model (50XR5A) is the best for scaled pictures. Scaling means that you use HDTV to display ED or lower resolution images. Good scaling indicates a high def device performs equally well for lower resolution movies than a device with native lower resolution. For this model (50HP95), I would assume it is best to display 720p, 480p, but for 480i, the pictures might not be as perfect as for 480p. Can anybody comment on this? thanks!
post #49 of 510
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Originally Posted by spemin View Post

Scaling issue: I read some posts in NEC 50XR5A's forum. They claim this model (50XR5A) is the best for scaled pictures. Scaling means that you use HDTV to display ED or lower resolution images. Good scaling indicates a high def device performs equally well for lower resolution movies than a device with native lower resolution. For this model (50HP95), I would assume it is best to display 720p, 480p, but for 480i, the pictures might not be as perfect as for 480p. Can anybody comment on this? thanks!

I haven't compared it to the NEC, but the little 480i content I have watched on my set (Green Mile VHS thru composite) it looked much better than I thought it would... Very acceptable IMO.
post #50 of 510
Thanks for your comments. I'm wondering between 50HP95 NEC PX-50XR5A. I read lot of posts from NEC sites. The general impression I have is that NEC 50xr5a has much better picture quality than any other brands and models (of course, they boasted a little bit). However, their views are still rational. But 50HP95 has lots of features I like, for example, cablecard, lot of card slots which are missing from NEC. Meanwhile some bad experiences from this forum or other toshiba related forum gave me some negative impression. So I have reasons to go back and forth. I just need to read more and hear more till I become totally biased.
post #51 of 510
I have seen the 50hp95 at 2 different BB's and on both of them the blacks looked washed out next to a Panny and a Pioneer. I played with the Contrast and Brightness but I couldn't get iit that much better without make the image totally too dark.
post #52 of 510
I don't have the 50" Toshiba but I do own a 42hp95 and could not be happier with the blacks. They are black, they are not grey or gray.

-Jody
post #53 of 510
One of the BB's had a 42hp95 and blacks were indeed very good it it but the 50hp95 wasn't so good this is with the same HD video feed between the two.
post #54 of 510
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Originally Posted by Jodeus View Post

I don't have the 50" Toshiba but I do own a 42hp95 and could not be happier with the blacks. They are black, they are not grey or gray.

-Jody

I second this emotion. I own a 50HP95 and the blacks on my set are outstanding. Always tough to compare when in a store like BB or CC.
post #55 of 510
Hi All,

I recently got the Toshiba 42hp95 and have been really satisfied with its performance. Like another member that's posted earlier on this thread, I also had some trouble tuning to particular QAM channels from Comcast that I knew existed (because my Fusion5 could tune to them). I eventually got a CableCard from Comcast and now, all the local broadcast channels come in correctly!

One thing that I noticed with using the CC, though, is that there seems to be some sluggish / slow response now when I use the remote on the TV. For example, if I'm watching a channel, and try to adjust the volume or change the channel, nothing will happen for around 2-3 seconds, but then the command will go through. Also, this behavior doesn't happen all the time.

Does anyone else use a CC with a 42hp95 and experience similar behavior?
post #56 of 510
I pulled the trigger on a 42HPX95 yeterday and it should be here next week. This will be my first plasma. Any advice/recommendations in how I can make sure the tv is in good shape would be extremely appreciated! Thanks.
post #57 of 510
Since the 50HP95 ha only 1 HDMI input, I'm thinking about buying a switch so I can plug in an HDMI from my DVD player and plug an HDMI from my DirecTV receiver. Anybody have thoughts or experience with this and if you lose any video quality? Thanks
post #58 of 510
from Sears. I am going to try to get a Cable Card from Cox tomorrow. I will report on how that works out.

The TV did tune in the two local HD channels that are on the cable, and I think a bunch of digital music channels. I am waiting for the download of the TVGuide info tonight.

I appreciate the setup tips in this thread, and will try them out.
post #59 of 510
Overscan on my set is reasonable at 1080i and 720p input, but 480i/p is a bit too much and a bit off centered. There are no height / width / positioning values in the SM, has anyone found the proper place to adjust this in address mode?

Thanks in advance!
post #60 of 510
I bought my 42HP95 in December 2005 and it has performed great!! I don't have any complaints what so ever. The picture is great and I love the options it comes with that the Panny didn't have like the POP, able to stretch the screen when watching digital channels and the picture slide show feature using a camera card.

I bought the unit from TVAuthority who delivered as promised. I would never buy from Tweeter, Best Buy or Circuit City again since they mark up the sets by $700 and the shipping was what I would have paid in taxes.

It's a great TV with great sound and I would buy another Toshiba.
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