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post #31 of 452
Well, I still prefer the warmth of analog over the cold mechanicalness of digital. Tubes are even better, but they're out of my reach. I guess I just like that feeling of getting better grade "old-fashioned" audio components and "rediscovering" my music collection all over again, especially in regards to detail.
post #32 of 452
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

preferably analog (excepting the CD's and the deck).

GASP! - Is that a nod to ultimate convenience? Because true audio files, still flip their vynl after 20 minutes....and sing warm songs of praise to align the molecular matrix of their shibatas.







As if perfect reproduction were a pre-requisite for enjoying music. Go turn your nose up somewhere else.
post #33 of 452
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What makes you think that what's on my server is overcompressed? Or even compressed? There's not an ipod or the like in my house.

I had many hundreds of pieces of pristine vinyl that unfortunately perished in an apartment fire 15 years ago. And with the difficulty in purchasing vinyl, most has been replaced on cd. Ripping them to a server makes playing them anywhere in the house much easier-- I see no reason to muck about with moving disks in and out of players in different parts of the house.

I'm sure that your way is a good way of keeping numerous albums compressed to a single location without all the clutter of cds but isn't there still some loss in sound quality when you do that. Also, you would never be able to compress SACDs this way. Even though SACD and DVD-Audio formats may be on the way out the sound quality is phenominal. I will take sound quality over volume any day. That's just my opinion.
post #34 of 452
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Well, I still prefer the warmth of analog over the cold mechanicalness of digital. Tubes are even better, but they're out of my reach. I guess I just like that feeling of getting better grade "old-fashioned" audio components and "rediscovering" my music collection all over again, especially in regards to detail.

I fully agree. You have no idea how much I miss my turntable, tubes and horns-- and being married with child(ren) now, it'll be a long time before they're replaced. "I used to have that on vinyl," is commonly heard in my house.
post #35 of 452
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Originally Posted by Slack View Post

GASP! - Is that a nod to ultimate convenience? Because true audio files, still flip their vynl after 20 minutes....and sing warm songs of praise to align the molecular matrix of their shibatas.







As if perfect reproduction were a pre-requisite for enjoying music. Go turn your nose up somewhere else.

So's your old man. Hey, Ipods are cool and everything, and so are music servers. Anything that gets anyone to listen to music is great. But if I just want to sit back, turn the lights down and really enjoy music, I like the sound of the older style stuff. I don't think a true "snob" would own a Mini-Disc portable like I do. (And I've owned a CD jukebox in the past, too.) That stuff's fine for mobility purposes, but I'm just referring more to at home.
post #36 of 452
Also, it's well worth it to me to have to get up every twenty minutes or so to flip an album. It's a small price to pay. Just makes you appreciate the music more.
post #37 of 452
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Originally Posted by gyver65 View Post

I'm sure that your way is a good way of keeping numerous albums compressed to a single location without all the clutter of cds but isn't there still some loss in sound quality when you do that. Also, you would never be able to compress SACDs this way. Even though SACD and DVD-Audio formats may be on the way out the sound quality is phenominal. I will take sound quality over volume any day. That's just my opinion.

While I was initially excited by the promise, lack of real support for SACD and DVD-A kept me from buying a player or material. Loss in sound quality? Imperceptible from cd-- bits are bits.
post #38 of 452
Foo Fighters - In your Honor - awesome double CD, one is electric. Led by David Grohl of Nirvana fame

My daughter is listening to "Avenge SevenFold", a somewhat interesting band with a vocalist that sounds like Steven Tyler of Aerosmith. They have a hyper active guitarist, and are played on KROK, the influential rock station in LA
post #39 of 452
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Originally Posted by GreySkies View Post

Loss in sound quality? Imperceptible from cd-- bits are bits.


So a $50 Walmart special CD player will sound exactly the same as a $10,000 Meridian or other high end player?

I've got some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in--land is land.
post #40 of 452
Well, at least SACD's can usually be played in stereo, and I can play DVD-Audio's on my Panasonic recorder in stereo. They still sound pretty good. But I never really invested in any either, because I've been around long enough to know that they'd never really catch on. Especially with that old bugaboo - competing formats. That's also why I'm not gonna be dumb enough to shell out for HD-DVD when it's first available.
post #41 of 452
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Originally Posted by squonk View Post

So a $50 Walmart special CD player will sound exactly the same as a $10,000 Meridian or other high end player?

I've got some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in--land is land.

I never said that. Nor do I shop at Walmart. And I used to own swamp land in Florida.

But I guarantee that wav files played from my server will kill that $50 Walmart player or any ipod/similar.
post #42 of 452
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Originally Posted by squonk View Post

So a $50 Walmart special CD player will sound exactly the same as a $10,000 Meridian or other high end player?

I've got some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in--land is land.

I agree. There is definitely a point of diminishing returns in audio gear, where it's easy to get sucked into a "my deck cost THIS much" thing, But the example you use is a completely valid one.
post #43 of 452
Currently I am listening to the following CDs:

Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Kataklysm - Serenity In Fire
Cradle Of Filth - Midian
Arch Enemy - Doomsday Machine
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
Bach for Relaxation
post #44 of 452
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Originally Posted by squonk View Post

So a $50 Walmart special CD player will sound exactly the same as a $10,000 Meridian or other high end player?

I've got some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in--land is land.

In that same vein, I was working in my unfinished media room a couple of weeks ago and hooked up my new speakers to an old receiver and my son's $19 radio shack dvd player. I popped in Miles Davis' Bags Groove and immediately thought that my new speakers were toast-- it was just the crappy dvd player. I brought an ethernet cable in and connected an old crappy thinkpad laptop with a cheap cable and played the same album from the server-- big, big difference.
post #45 of 452
Well, to be fair it WAS a Radio Shack. It might have sounded a little more acceptable if it were a Sony.
post #46 of 452
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GreySkies View Post

In that same vein, I was working in my unfinished media room a couple of weeks ago and hooked up my new speakers to an old receiver and my son's $19 radio shack dvd player. I popped in Miles Davis' Bags Groove and immediately thought that my new speakers were toast-- it was just the crappy dvd player. I brought an ethernet cable in and connected an old crappy thinkpad laptop with a cheap cable and played the same album from the server-- big, big difference.

So you've made my point for me. Bits are NOT just Bits. Otherwise, all digital equipment would sound exactly the same.
post #47 of 452
When I was buying the gear I have now, I was auditioning some Martin Logan's in the store, but I didn't have any of my own music on me. The salesman turned on music from a Yamaha server, and it was so bad I couldn't believe it. When I asked him why it sounded so bad (other than the fact that the M.L.'s are particularly revealing), all he could say was it was the compression. Mind you, it was so bad that something might have been wrong, but he seemed to understand that I was looking for much better and veered me appropiately. I thank God for that, because it was completely unacceptable to me for that price point.
post #48 of 452
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Originally Posted by squonk View Post

So you've made my point for me. Bits are NOT just Bits. Otherwise, all digital equipment would sound exactly the same.

Point? I'm not arguing.

The bits are the bits-- the difference is in the D/A conversion, where the bits become something else. And with the limitation of the cd format, much has been lost already. Putting it on my server isn't going to appreciably lose anything more.
post #49 of 452
I admit the Sirius music channels I get with Dish don't sound that bad, and they do have a decent amount of detail. but they do just have a sort of "artificial" sound.
post #50 of 452
Animal Collective - Feels
Sigur Ros - Taak
Do Make Say Think - Winter Hymm Country Hymm Secret Hymm (absolutely phenomenal record)
Mogwai - Happy Songs For Happy People
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
Hold Steady - Separation Sunday
post #51 of 452
I have a new option called pandora. You can find it at www.pandora.com also called the Music Genome Project. You can create stations based on artists you like and pandora shuffles through songs that are considewred similar, you get to tweak the selections by givinga thumbs up or down on songs if you choose to. It's a great little tool to use at work - a personal DJ doing a CD song shuffle in the background. Of course you can purchase the individual song from itunes or the CD from Amazon from the site.
post #52 of 452
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Originally Posted by GreySkies View Post

While I was initially excited by the promise, lack of real support for SACD and DVD-A kept me from buying a player or material. Loss in sound quality? Imperceptible from cd-- bits are bits.

Except there are more bits on hi-rez audio. And the more bits, the closer the sample to the original analog sine curve, thus better, more accurate sound. I only paid $120 for my universal player and dearly love my SA-CD and DVD-A collection, sparse as it is. (But I love my vinyl & Rega turntable even more. )
post #53 of 452
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I admit the Sirius music channels I get with Dish don't sound that bad, and they do have a decent amount of detail. but they do just have a sort of "artificial" sound.

Yep-- XM with D*, here. Sounds ok, but nothing to write home about. For casual background listening, With the antenna on my roof and WXRT broadcasting, I still prefer oldschool FM.
post #54 of 452
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Except there are more bits on hi-rez audio. And the more bits, the closer the sample to the original analog sine curve, thus better, more accurate sound. I only paid $120 for my universal player and dearly love my SA-CD and DVD-A collection, sparse as it is. (But I love my vinyl & Rega turntable even more. )

Urp-- didn't mean to confuse SACD/DVD-A with CD-- I meant uncompressed rips of CDs to CDs.
post #55 of 452
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Originally Posted by GreySkies View Post

Yep-- XM with D*, here. Sounds ok, but nothing to write home about. For casual background listening, With the antenna on my roof and WXRT broadcasting, I still prefer oldschool FM.

I'm in Chicagoland, too. Are you old enough to remember Triad? It was the best radio program/station this area's ever had (and anyone else out there who remembers it will vouch for this, I'm certain). Nothing's ever even come close, even 'XRT back in it's earlier days.
post #56 of 452
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I'm in Chicagoland, too. Are you old enough to remember Triad? It was the best radio program/station this area's ever had (and anyone else out there who remembers it will vouch for this, I'm certain). Nothing's ever even come close, even 'XRT back in it's earlier days.

Speaking of Chicago radio, I lived in Palatine (NW suburbs) from about 1972-1975 and listened to Larry Lujack on the AM dial? religiously. Thought he was hilarious. You must be around the same age as me so you must have grown up with Lujack also?
post #57 of 452
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I'm in Chicagoland, too. Are you old enough to remember Triad? It was the best radio program/station this area's ever had (and anyone else out there who remembers it will vouch for this, I'm certain). Nothing's ever even come close, even 'XRT back in it's earlier days.

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Originally Posted by squonk View Post

Speaking of Chicago radio, I lived in Palatine (NW suburbs) from about 1972-1975 and listened to Larry Lujack on the AM dial? religiously. Thought he was hilarious. You must be around the same age as me so you must have grown up with Lujack also?

Uncle Lar and Little Tommy on WLS. I even had the first Animal Stories album. I don't remember Triad. I listened mostly to am back in the 70s, so it was Larry Lujack and John Landecker until I started listening to The Loop in the late 70s. Musically, the 70s for me were a steady diet of Styx, Foreigner and Cheap Trick-- ahh-- junior high school. Then my parents split and my mother moved us to far northern Wisconsin-- culture shock and a dearth of anything resembling radio.

Fortunately, after college and getting transferred around the country, I finally had the opportunity five years ago to move back.
post #58 of 452
Ironically my HT audio system is better playing music than any 2 channel rig I've ever owned. I'm using all Cary Audio gear (Cinema 6, Cinema 5 and DVD-6). Even though it's solid state it sounds quite tube-like to me. Just incredible sounding, and HT sounds magic as well.

I actually wake up early now just to have time listening to music before the day starts (everyone wants to watch movies at night). Here's what I'm listening to at the moment:

"Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions" - This is a full 6 disc box set of the complete 5 nights that spawned LIVE-EVIL (my all time favorite MD disc). It's really some of his trippiest most futuristic stuff with Keith Jarrett, John Mclaughlin, Mike Henderson, Miles, et all. Sure much of it sounds similar, but its so good I'd take another 10 discs worth.

Bach Unaccompanied Cello - Whipplesway. The unaccompanied Cello pieces always seemed like a bore compared to the violin, even though I've had good recordings of Cassals, Yo-Yo Ma etc. Whipplesway is just an incredible artist and actually brings these to live in a really thrilling way. One of the new classical artists I'm most excited about, and my favorite Cellist by a long shot.

Silvertide - "Ain't Coming Home". Blistering good ole fashioned rock n roll. Reminds me of a harder rocking Jet. Really good stuff.

Skinny Puppy - "The Greater Wrong of the Right". Finally a return to form of the great Canadian industrial band. I haven't even gotten around to the DVD yet, but it's some of their best stuff since 91's "Last Rights". Slicker and dancier than classics like "Vivisect IV" but still a return to form.
post #59 of 452
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Originally Posted by GreySkies View Post

Uncle Lar and Little Tommy on WLS. I even had the first Animal Stories album. I don't remember Triad. I listened mostly to am back in the 70s, so it was Larry Lujack and John Landecker until I started listening to The Loop in the late 70s. Musically, the 70s for me were a steady diet of Styx, Foreigner and Cheap Trick-- ahh-- junior high school. Then my parents split and my mother moved us to far northern Wisconsin-- culture shock and a dearth of anything resembling radio.

Fortunately, after college and getting transferred around the country, I finally had the opportunity five years ago to move back.

Yikes - my dad was always trying to get me to move up to northwest Wisconsin before he passed away a few short years ago. Chetek - Barron County, to be exact. Great place if all you wanted to do was fish and drink. And freeze. And dig yourself out from under snow. It was a great place to vacation to, but......you know the rest.
post #60 of 452
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Originally Posted by squonk View Post

Curious, how do you have the computer hooked up to your stereo system? You don't listen to all that music at home through computer speakers do you? I can't imagine not listening to music through a dedicated stereo system with top notch speakers.

I noted how others have their systems hooked up, but in my case, I have a digital audio output on my system and it runs into my receiver that way. The computer is located in a closet on the other side of the wall my system is on and the cable runs through down through one floor and back up through the other to the receiver. I have an S-Video output on my ATI All-in-Wonder video card so I can view the screen output on my TV. The card included an RF remote control so I can control the system from the comfort of my chair.
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