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post #61 of 1213
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I wasnt able to get as much done as I had planned this weekend.

That should be the DIY Home Theater motto.
Along with "Nothing is as simple as it seems."
Ronnie,
You've got a great room and a beautiful design.
It's all coming together.
Great job. You're almost there, pal.
post #62 of 1213
Hey Ronnie,

Looking Awesome man. How did you get your Curves on your Prosceniums done? Cut Curves in plywood?

I thiink your gonna be watching movies in there before I'm watching movies in Mine.

Ruben
post #63 of 1213
Ronnie,
looking awesome. Are you doing going to add drywall or cloth material to the stage ceiling?

maurice
post #64 of 1213
My first post, And I messed it up!

reece
post #65 of 1213
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Hey Ronnie,
How did you get your Curves on your Prosceniums done? Cut Curves in plywood?

Ruben


Ruben, I made the frames with curved ribs and just covered with fabric. Since all the peices were curved, it seemed to hold the fabric very nicely.

I think I got lucky.

Here is another picture of the framing. All horizontal peices are curved. The top and bottom peices are made from a 2x12. The middle 3 ribs are 1/2 plywood.



Ronnie
post #66 of 1213
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Originally Posted by reece View Post

Ronnie,
looking awesome. Are you going to add drywall or cloth material to the stage ceiling?

maurice


Maurice, I will use black fabric for the false ceiling. In the pic just above in my reply to Ruben, you can see an area just behind the new soffit and in front of the old sheetrock soffit that is hollow. That area will basically be covered by a false ceiling. The false ceiling will stop about 12-16" in front of the screen wall to leave room for curtains and swags. There will also be 5 can lights in this false ceiling shining onto the perimeter of the stage. If you take a look at my Sketchup drawings on the previous pages. That will give you an idea of the finished look. I hope to have that part accomplished by this weekend.

Ronnie
post #67 of 1213
Ronnie,
Where did u buy the speaker fabric in the area.
Also, you mentioned commando cloth for the screen, is that better than the grey cloth that is sold on ebay?.

Thx
post #68 of 1213
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Originally Posted by nosdude View Post

Ronnie,
Where did u buy the speaker fabric in the area.
Also, you mentioned commando cloth for the screen, is that better than the grey cloth that is sold on ebay?.

Thx

I picked up the speaker fabric at Jo-Anns off Preston. I picked up the commando cloth downtown at a place called Scenic Source. 214-887-8300. Tell Sandy you talked to me. Im not familar with the grey ebay cloth. The commando is highly recomended for sucking up light on a screen wall.

Ronnie
post #69 of 1213
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Originally Posted by ronnie_jackson View Post

I picked up the speaker fabric at Jo-Anns off Preston.

Ronnie,

My wife is the one that visits JoAnns -- so I do not know the store that well. Do they have a large selection of colors for the speaker fabric? About how much per yard is it? I figure I can use one of those 50% off coupons and get it very inexpensively.
post #70 of 1213
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Ronnie,

My wife is the one that visits JoAnns -- so I do not know the store that well. Do they have a large selection of colors for the speaker fabric? About how much per yard is it? I figure I can use one of those 50% off coupons and get it very inexpensively.

The only color I saw for speaker grille cloth was black. I used a coupon and it was around $4 per yard. Normal price is $7.

Ronnie
post #71 of 1213
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Originally Posted by ronnie_jackson View Post

The only color I saw for speaker grille cloth was black. I used a coupon and it was around $4 per yard. Normal price is $7.

Ronnie

Ronnie,

Thanks -- thats what I figured. Oh well, my brown sample (that doesn't sound right ) should be here in a week or so for review.
post #72 of 1213
Thread Starter 
Im working on some ideas for my columns.

What do you guys think about these? The sconce will be lighted.

Good? Bad? To plain? Give up and start over?







Ronnie
post #73 of 1213
Awesome Design Ronnie, I think they are perfect. They may be a little too overpowering for the room. So I would say make them smaller, or use 2 per Side. The design is awesome though. You never cease to amaze me.

Ruben
post #74 of 1213
I agree with Ruben. I like 'em, but three may be too much. Would you have to worry about reflections (acoustical) with the amount of wood/veneer used? Maybe someone else can pipe in.

Looks great!

Bud
post #75 of 1213
Yes, I like them a lot too. 2 on the wall would work out well. Bud has a good point about reflections -- placement (if you have options) is critical. However, having the fabric along the entire front of the column will help since you would put absorbtion inside.
post #76 of 1213
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Thanks guys. I really appreciate your input on this. I agree with 3 columns being to much. I tried the drawing with 2 and it just looked funny. The first row of seating will be at about 11'. If I put the column at 12', I couldnt get it to look spaced out right with only 2 columns. It seemed to leave a lot of space up front. Anyone else have those issues.

Do you think I will have reflection issues? Only the sides will be solid wood. The entire front will be open and covered with cloth. I plan on filling them with acoustic treatement.

For the record, the columns are 8 feet tall. The bottom is 9" deep with a 3" overhang for the footing. The top is 15" deep with a 3" overhang for the cap. Its 18" wide.

Should I go smaller even with 2 columns per side?

Ronnie
post #77 of 1213
They are beutiful. Are we going to see how you build these?

Reece
post #78 of 1213
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They are beutiful. Are we going to see how you build these?

Reece

Of course. Would anyone let me get away without a tutorial?

Ronnie
post #79 of 1213
The size is probably constrained to the size of your surrounds, correct? You might want to build a prototype to get a better feel. If the pictures of the columns are proportioned correctly with the room, they look a little big to me, but after reading the dimensions, seem OK.

Bud
post #80 of 1213
Ronnie,
Very nice design and it fits perfectly with the rest of the room.
post #81 of 1213
Ronnie,
Are you going to have any columns on the back wall?
Jay
post #82 of 1213
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Originally Posted by chinadog View Post

The size is probably constratined to the size of your surrounds, correct? You might want to build a prototype to get a better feel. If the pictures of the columns are proportioned correctly with the room, they look a little big to me, but after reading the dimensions, seem OK.

Bud

Bud, I could probably go 2-3" smaller on the width. Maybe even a little on the depth at the top. I dont have the speakers yet, so I drew these to match about what most people are doing.

Ya, the pic is to scale. I think its the fact that there are 3 columns and the angle is a little strange that gives it that optical illusion of being big.

I plan on creating a single prototype once I decide on an overall look. I have another idea for them that I will run by you guys when I get a chance to draw it out.

Ronnie
post #83 of 1213
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Originally Posted by Jayken View Post

Ronnie,
Are you going to have any columns on the back wall?
Jay


Im undecided yet on the back wall. I wont have much room behind the back row and the wall (about 3 feet). I want to leave room to walk. I also have an odd door location.

If I do columns on the back wall, they will match the others.

Why do you ask?

Ronnie
post #84 of 1213
Ronnie, what are you doing about treatments in this room?

You may want to consult BPape here on AVS and let him do an analyzation of Your room. He will then recommend treatment placement along with bass traps before you take the final plunge on the columns. It will be the best investment of your theater and it's not as expensive as you may think.

I had to change my existing columns due to reflection points and he had to make changes on treatments everytime I changed my design.

Ruben
post #85 of 1213
Thread Starter 
Treatments? Whats that?

Just kidding. At first, I thought I would just do the standard linacoustic up to ear level, batting on top, Linacoustic under soffit, Linacoustic on the entire front wall, and some bass traps in the front corners. Nothing to technical. The expense wasnt really the concern, It just seemed that I could do what most have done and achieve 80-90% satisfaction. I am probably dillusional.

Now, it seems that I should probably get a little more scientific in my approach and enlist some experts. BPape is definately on my list.

Im not sure equipment will play into the calculations, but I have not decided on exactly what i will be purchasing and probably wont until the very end.

Ronnie
post #86 of 1213
Ronnie,
I think that the exposed front edge of the side pieces looks a little thin, have you tried it with about a 2" or 3" edge? Just my take... otherwise I think it is a pretty cool and unique design.

Keep up the good work.
Brian
post #87 of 1213
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Originally Posted by BFauska View Post

Ronnie,
I think that the exposed front edge of the side pieces looks a little thin, have you tried it with about a 2" or 3" edge? Just my take... otherwise I think it is a pretty cool and unique design.

Keep up the good work.
Brian

Hi Brian. I agree, it looks a little thin. Its currently at 3/4 inches. I have received a lot of suggestions from a few folks here and also friends and family. I need to put them into a sketchup and get some feedback again. I will put up the changes in the next few days for you guys.

Im also thinking about not making the sconce lighted. I dont think it will project any light with the black material behind it, so it probably wont work anyway. I am now thinking about tray lighting around the soffit with lights just above the columns to give them a little illumination.

Thanks for everyones comments thus far.

Ronnie
post #88 of 1213
Thread Starter 
I made some slight modifications to the columns based on some feedback. Do these look any better? Is there more tweaking to be done?




Ronnie
post #89 of 1213
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Im still not satisfied with the way they seem spaced on the wall. The first column is 7 feet back from screen and the second one is 12 feet from the screen. That would put the second one (which will house surround) about 1 foot behind front row and between the two rows of seating.

Does this look odd to anyone else, or is it just me?

I keep wanting to move them back about 1-2 feet each, but that would probably put the side surround to far behind the front row.




Ronnie
post #90 of 1213
I personally think the reason the columns maybe look a little overpowering is the top plate and botom plate. Try doing a drawing with just the sides where the top and bottom would be hidden inside the column behind the black so they look more like ribs than columns.

2 could be made to work as could 3 if we play with the positioning. Just remember that 1 of the positions is pretty well locked down for the surround and the other 1-2 can be made symmetric to the front wall, the stage front, whatever depending on your preference - or not symmetric.
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