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post #1321 of 3437
I'm using Parasound's A21 which delivers 400w @ 4 ohms. It's more than enough to power my MS4's, but I don't think I'd settle for less!

Any reason you're looking for a 7-channel amp. If you're just looking to power your front pair of Mentor 8's, why not spend the money on a very nice 2-channel amp?

Jason
post #1322 of 3437
I'm a newbie to Dali speakers, so a couple of basic questions:

How is "Dali" pronounced? I know it's an acronym...Danish Audiphile something.. Is it "Daily", or "Dahli"?

There seems to be no Dali dealer in my state (Nebraska). Can anyone suggest a dealer that is w/in "reasonable" driving distance from Omaha?
post #1323 of 3437
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Originally Posted by cubbie5150 View Post

I'm a newbie to Dali speakers, so a couple of basic questions:

How is "Dali" pronounced? I know it's an acronym...Danish Audiphile something.. Is it "Daily", or "Dahli"?

There seems to be no Dali dealer in my state (Nebraska). Can anyone suggest a dealer that is w/in "reasonable" driving distance from Omaha?

Did you see this page? http://www.dali.dk/us/page247.aspx?mappeId=8

Otherwise you can try calling up Dali at 303 464 7000 and see what they can suggest.
post #1324 of 3437
And it's pronounced "DAH-lee" as in Salvador DAH-lee.

Jason
post #1325 of 3437
I just wanted to share with other Dali fans that I have posted a beautiful pair of 800's on Audiogon:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ull&1218173364

I would be willing to knock off $200 for a local buyer or someone that can pick them up. I really don't want to ship these and would like to give another AVS member a really good deal. Thanks
post #1326 of 3437
I'm in the process of building a surroundsystem with helicon speakers, I've bought a pair of helicon 400, a c200 and a pair of w200 for surround. What's still missing is a stand for the c200. Because of the curved shape it doesn't work very well with regular stands, does anyone of you guys have any good tips of a stand that would work?

Thanks
David
post #1327 of 3437
you can use the styrofoam that came in the center box. cut it down to size and place the ends on 2 stand placed side by side. you can also wrap the foam in black tape or paint it to hide.

but i think they are coming out with a stand for the helicon centers.
post #1328 of 3437
Well...

After a fairly lengthy process and a lot of going back and forth, we've finally closed the chapter on the damage claim with the Euphonia MS-4s that I received. In the end, it worked out quite favorably for me, though some minor touch-up work and refinishing will be required. The quite excellent news is that I ended up spending a mere $2k on these beauties. The great news is that the minor damage that one speaker sustained was merely cosmetic and more importantly only occurred on the front baffle and not the gorgeous alpi cabinet. The good news is that I can simply remove the drivers from the baffle (which I already did when I received the speakers), sand down the finish and re-finish the baffle. The mediocre news is that I'll have to re-finish both speakers to match. The bad news is that I probably won't have a chance to work on them until the end of July....

but the good news is that they sound and look (with the grilles on) absolutely amazing and I can enjoy them until their re-finishing...now I've got to pick out a color to paint the baffles...I'm thinking pink for you, Daniel!

Jason
post #1329 of 3437
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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

Well...

After a fairly lengthy process and a lot of going back and forth, we've finally closed the chapter on the damage claim with the Euphonia MS-4s that I received. In the end, it worked out quite favorably for me, though some minor touch-up work and refinishing will be required. The quite excellent news is that I ended up spending a mere $2k on these beauties. The great news is that the minor damage that one speaker sustained was merely cosmetic and more importantly only occurred on the front baffle and not the gorgeous alpi cabinet. The good news is that I can simply remove the drivers from the baffle (which I already did when I received the speakers), sand down the finish and re-finish the baffle. The mediocre news is that I'll have to re-finish both speakers to match. The bad news is that I probably won't have a chance to work on them until the end of July....

but the good news is that they sound and look (with the grilles on) absolutely amazing and I can enjoy them until their re-finishing...now I've got to pick out a color to paint the baffles...I'm thinking pink for you, Daniel!

Jason

2K!!! wow what a deal. I'm glad you finally got this problem solved. Congrats. maybe now you can put that money into more speakers
post #1330 of 3437
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Originally Posted by davidimdpt View Post

2K!!! wow what a deal. I'm glad you finally got this problem solved. Congrats. maybe now you can put that money into more speakers

Yeah, I'm thankful to have it resolved so favorably. Unfortunately the money is already spent on a killer Middle Atlantic rack for our lower-level HT...





Jason
post #1331 of 3437
now all you need is the faceplates for all the gear.
post #1332 of 3437
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

Hey RobRoy,

I'm excited for you--send me a PM if you'd like to know what Lars (owner/chief engineer of Dali) recently told the US guys in Colorado about the Mentor 8's...

BTW, one of the US Dali guys (Michael) told me that the Mentor 8's need lots of power--that's what made me decide to bridge my amp for the 400+wpc for my front 3. I have Ikon Phantoms for the rears which I am powering with my Onkyo 875--seems to blend very nicely actually!

Let us know what you think of your Dali's.

Best to you,
Phil

I sent you a PM!

I actually bought the NAD M25 just a couple of days ago. What a beast, 43.7 kg (96 pounds).

I really love my Mentor 8:s. The sound really terrific, i love the clearness of the sound.

First i listened to the Helicon 400, excellent for voices and slower music, but i thought something was missing in rock-music and such. Everything fell to place with the larger Mentor 8 (and ofcourse also the Helicon 800). But since the Helicon 800 is too expensive for me (and the Mentors is soundvice almost as good) i went for the Mentors.

The only downside i see with the Mentors is looks, they simple dont look as nice as the Helicons. But soundvice they are almost equals.

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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

I'm using Parasound's A21 which delivers 400w @ 4 ohms. It's more than enough to power my MS4's, but I don't think I'd settle for less!

Any reason you're looking for a 7-channel amp. If you're just looking to power your front pair of Mentor 8's, why not spend the money on a very nice 2-channel amp?

Jason

Two reasons:

1. Of all the amps i tried the Mentors soundes the best with the NAD M25 (Even better than the 2-channel M3 strangly..).

2. I want a 5-channel setup in the future and i am on a budget (as everyone is ) so it would be too expensive for me with more amps. This one also has 7 channels, so i can bi-amp the Mentors and still have 3 channels left.
post #1333 of 3437
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Originally Posted by SWE_RobRoy View Post

I sent you a PM!

I actually bought the NAD M25 just a couple of days ago. What a beast, 43.7 kg (96 pounds).

I really love my Mentor 8:s. The sound really terrific, i love the clearness of the sound.

First i listened to the Helicon 400, excellent for voices and slower music, but i thought something was missing in rock-music and such. Everything fell to place with the larger Mentor 8 (and ofcourse also the Helicon 800). But since the Helicon 800 is too expensive for me (and the Mentors is soundvice almost as good) i went for the Mentors.

The only downside i see with the Mentors is looks, they simple dont look as nice as the Helicons. But soundvice they are almost equals.

Sweet!

As per my PM, I am in audio heaven with these Mentor 8's.
The looks are another matter, like you said, but I'm going to incorporate them into my proscenium anyway, so that will not be a problem after all...

BTW, Jason--way to score a sweet deal on the MS4's!!! You gotta love a great deal when they come around.
post #1334 of 3437
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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

Well...

After a fairly lengthy process and a lot of going back and forth, we've finally closed the chapter on the damage claim with the Euphonia MS-4s that I received. In the end, it worked out quite favorably for me, though some minor touch-up work and refinishing will be required. The quite excellent news is that I ended up spending a mere $2k on these beauties. The great news is that the minor damage that one speaker sustained was merely cosmetic and more importantly only occurred on the front baffle and not the gorgeous alpi cabinet. The good news is that I can simply remove the drivers from the baffle (which I already did when I received the speakers), sand down the finish and re-finish the baffle. The mediocre news is that I'll have to re-finish both speakers to match. The bad news is that I probably won't have a chance to work on them until the end of July....

but the good news is that they sound and look (with the grilles on) absolutely amazing and I can enjoy them until their re-finishing...now I've got to pick out a color to paint the baffles...I'm thinking pink for you, Daniel!

Jason




Congrats Jason, back on the saddle aye!.... And quite the large discount too, pretty sweet Glad every thing sound perfect..

So are you doing all this work yourself ? Sound rather daunting, well I'm not a carpenter...

hey I thought we established that my color was purple, more like a lavender shade

Happy listen


Djoel
post #1335 of 3437
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Originally Posted by ifor View Post

now all you need is the faceplates for all the gear.

Nah...too expensive ($120 each) and we're always in a state of flux here...gear in...gear out...

The wife's happy and that's all that matters...

Jason
post #1336 of 3437
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Congrats Jason, back on the saddle aye!.... And quite the large discount too, pretty sweet Glad every thing sound perfect..

So are you doing all this work yourself ? Sound rather daunting, well I'm not a carpenter...

hey I thought we established that my color was purple, more like a lavender

Happy listen


Djoel

Oh sweet irony...have you no bounds?

What are the chances that we'd be posting at the exact same time?!?! Coincidence....? I think not!

I did most of the work myself, but left the drywall to the gorillas and the paint to those with patience...we've got a killer painter that's always in and out here and he gave us a gangster price and a gangster job!

Yeah, the MS-4s are absurd...loving them like crazy. We just had a shindig last night and had a bunch of my audio/music friends over and we listened to a sh'load of great tunes and everybody was pretty floored by the Dalis. They just sound and look so damn good and everybody had a chance to get on a few requests so it was a lot of fun. Mix in 4 score and 7 brewskis ago and we had a bona fide party!

BTW, I'm definitely leaving the Servo-15 upstairs with the Dalis, which leaves me looking for a new sub for the HT downstairs, but no rush...

How are your Helicons treating you...long time/no post so I can only assume you've been engrossed in rediscovering your music collection!

Jason
post #1337 of 3437
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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

Oh sweet irony...have you no bounds?

What are the chances that we'd be posting at the exact same time?!?! Coincidence....? I think not!

Great minds push the enter button at the same time I might not be that great, but I'm a Beck Hanson fan as well. And that can't be coincidence.


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BTW, I'm definitely leaving the Servo-15 upstairs with the Dalis, which leaves me looking for a new sub for the HT downstairs, but no rush...

JL AUDIO Perhaps ?

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How are your Helicons treating you...long time/no post so I can only assume you've been engrossed in rediscovering your music collection!

I wish Jason, I've been waiting for the Cary C11a for so long now that I'm giving up hope now But on a brighter note I ordered a Odyssey Candela 2 channel pre amp

I might be getting a Integra 9.8..( Heaven help me), I had a Onkyo 8.5 that was a total nightmare, just plain awful, from jump street!
So if I get a good price, I'll just turn around and sell it once the Cary is out....
I had the 885 early on it's introduction, and I paid premium for it, and sold it for a K once I got it repaired.Ouch!


Hey Jason do you think its a good idea to cross series ( in the Dalis line of course ) for the rear channel, I'm looking at the RS 3 for rear duties didn't know if was kosher to do that.

Cheers

Daniel
post #1338 of 3437
Guys, if anyone is looking for a sweet deal on a pair of Helicon 400's in Rosenut and/or a C200 in Cherry shoot me a PM. They are about 8 months old and in perfect condition. They will probably hit A*gon this weekend but I would much rather see them go to a fellow AVS member than someone over there.
post #1339 of 3437
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

..... do you think its a good idea to cross series ( in the Dalis line of course ) for the rear channel, I'm looking at the RS 3 for rear duties didn't know if was kosher to do that.

FWIW,

I use Ikons for my side and rear surrounds and Helicons up front for L, C, and R. I am very satisfied, and the professional calibrator who set up my audio commented that the timbre matching was very good.

Thanks
Bruce
post #1340 of 3437
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Originally Posted by BruceOmega View Post

FWIW,

I use Ikons for my side and rear surrounds and Helicons up front for L, C, and R. I am very satisfied, and the professional calibrator who set up my audio commented that the timbre matching was very good.

Same here: Ikon Phantoms for surround w/ Mentor 8/Vokal up front produces no perceivable difference--the Phantoms have the ribbon/dome combo as well (though I'm sure a different x/o).

I'm not sure that the single dome tweeter would match as well, but that's just a guess. It is why I went with the Phantoms instead of waiting for the new in-ceiling round speakers coming out later this summer/fall...
post #1341 of 3437
Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceOmega View Post

FWIW,

I use Ikons for my side and rear surrounds and Helicons up front for L, C, and R. I am very satisfied, and the professional calibrator who set up my audio commented that the timbre matching was very good.

Thanks
Bruce

Thanks Bruce I guess the RS3 would work then as well. Coincidently who did your calibration ?

DJoel
post #1342 of 3437
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Originally Posted by little leo View Post

i got to tell you, the mk2 helicons are far better then the orig. Like i said due to a defect in the wood of my helicon 400, dali replaced them at no extra charge to me with the new mk2, and even swapt out my center to the new one so they all match, at no extra charge, and they really did do a great job with these. the bloom is really gone, and they are much faster and the controle with the bass is right on. you really cant compare the two. after having both, the new ones are really a differnt speaker.

so once again thank you dali for standing behind your products and upgrading me to brand new speakers with out a cost to me.




Big congrats Leo on your MKII's, ,I love hearing stories like yours...It make me more proud to own these Dali speakers.

Hey what was wrong with your finish?


Djoel
post #1343 of 3437
Does anyone know the name/number of the Dali on-wall model? I wanted to search the forum for it - but I can't seem to find it's name. I thought it was icon. But the icons I found on audiogon were not on-walls.
Thanks.
post #1344 of 3437
They make a couple of different models that are on-wall.

There is the new Mentor LCR as well as the new Motif.

Then the Helicon W200 as well as the Ikon On-Wall and the Piano Forte on wall subwoofer.

And any of the Phantoms can be used on wall with the Phantom Phrame.
post #1345 of 3437
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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

Does anyone know the name/number of the Dali on-wall model? I wanted to search the forum for it - but I can't seem to find it's name. I thought it was icon. But the icons I found on audiogon were not on-walls.
Thanks.


Hey Mimi how's that Elite doing for ya!

Nice to see you around these parts....


Djoel
post #1346 of 3437
How do you guys think a pair of Helicon 300 would compare to a pair of Helicon 400 if both speakers are crossed over and used with two JL Audio Fathom 113 sub's?

This in a room that is 5,5meter x 3,5meter (16feet x 9,8feet).

I have room for the 400's but if there isn't much to gain I might as well go with the 300's.
post #1347 of 3437
Spuj given the dimesions of your room I would suggest the 400's. Sounds like you will have an awesome setup with the dual F-13's.
post #1348 of 3437
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Originally Posted by spuj View Post

How do you guys think a pair of Helicon 300 would compare to a pair of Helicon 400 if both speakers are crossed over and used with two JL Audio Fathom 113 sub's?

This in a room that is 5,5meter x 3,5meter (16feet x 9,8feet).

I have room for the 400's but if there isn't much to gain I might as well go with the 300's.



Charles (Aka Mozvz ) could give you some insight as well he owns a F113, and also owned the Helicons 300MK1, and MK2's, and 400..


DJoel
post #1349 of 3437
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Charles (Aka Mozvz ) could give you some insight as well he owns a F113, and also owned the Helicons 300MK1, and MK2's, and 400..


DJoel

Hey Djoel,

Hope all the Dali owners are enjoying their Dali speakers.

This is a very subjective situation and it's dependent on quite a few things. What's the major part of this gent's listening consist? If he is more 2 channel music inclined, then the 400's would be a better choice. However, if he brings the subs into the experience for 2.2, then the 300's might be a frugal and wiser choice. The subs are there and if you are going to use them, then monitors might be a better choice.

Does he like the look of floor standers versus the monitor's which will require quality stands? They pretty much take up the same floor space, but the monitors are easier to maneuver for placement. Do you listen at really high SPL's? I thought even with my quality stands, there was a tad of resonance on the 300 enclosure when listening at high, high SPL's. Understand my average listening is probably 70-85 DB's, but if you are an ear drum cracker, the 400's might be a better choice.

How far away can he get the speakers away from the wall? Are these MK2's or the classic series?? The MK2's are a bit more forgiving of distance from the wall.

What is the cost difference between the 400 and the 300 series? Are these used or new speakers? There are lots of deals on Agon right now due to economic stress and if you could get the 400's for the price of the 300's by wheeling and dealing, that is something to consider.

The room itself is not really that large. 16 X 9 X 8 is around 1200 CF. Even if dedicated, that space is not cavernous by any means.

Gun to the head if using the subs, I'd opt for the 300's with those 2 JL subs. A pair of 300's with the center channel and those 2 JL's are a very, very nice combination for 2 channel and HT. Both of these speakers are studs. However, this is just one Dali owners opinion. YMMV
post #1350 of 3437
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Charles (Aka Mozvz ) could give you some insight as well he owns a F113, and also owned the Helicons 300MK1, and MK2's, and 400..


DJoel

I will shoot him a pm, thanks!

Edit: Mozvz beat me to it
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