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post #2131 of 2201
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard View Post

I always forget about the THX Optimizer, that is probably a good idea and less expensive. I have never used it.

Chris

If you've got a disc with it on there, absolutely use it: you've already "paid for it"!
If you're REALLY anal-retentive (like me), DVE (Digital Video Essentials) and Avia can be found at many big box B&M stores (BB, CC), and cheaper online (around $20).

Some words of caution with these:
1) Avia is much easier to use, especially after the first "full run-through" (e.g., going back to review specific patterns, etc.), but is somewhat less comprehensive than DVE in terms of total system calibration on the video end of things;

2) DVE has more professional-end calibration screens (for grayscale, RGB, etc.) AND comes with a 3-strip color filter for really accurate color/tint adjustment (can't remember if Avia includes one) that can also be used with the THX optimizer color screens for quicker adjustments. This is VERY nice. BUT its layout and navigation is a total mess if you want to come back for a quick adjustment after the first run-through; on that count, THX Optimizer and Avia win. The upside to DVE is that its "full run-through" is INCREDIBLY thorough: not only taking you through each adjustment step-by-step, but talking you through each, and also telling you why each is important and how one setting (say, contrast) can affect another (say, brightness). But with DVE (to a greater extent than with Avia) you'll have to block off a couple hours to get through it all in full: it even goes through the history of home video, differences between analog and digital processing, etc. In other words: cool stuff, but stuff you may not need or have the desire to watch to simply calibrate your set.

3) Unless you have a SPL meter, there is little difference between how useful DVE, Avia, and THX Optimizer are in helping you set speaker levels. All let you know whether you have inverted speaker polarities (checking for out of phase speakers), and all provide a white-noise test tone (which most receivers do anyway, and is my preferred way of setting these levels: there has been a lot of discussion around the fact that each of these calibration discs' sound test patterns are slightly different, so best to adjust this from the source itself). In short: the sound calibration features across these methods are not the reason for the more or less casual listener/viewer to run out and spend the extra $.

4) If you go the DVE route, be careful: some online and B&M merchants are still selling the old "Video Essentials" DVD, which is outdated (it was mastered from, and speaks more to, calibrations for Laserdiscs than DVDs). If it has a black cover and snapper case, don't buy it. If it has a grey/silver cover and a clamshell case, that's the one to get.

5) Finally, if you want to go REALLY nuts, there's a third option that in some ways is superior to both DVE and Avia: HQV. You can get it directly from HQV's website for around $25. They also now offer a version for HDDVD and BluRay -- if either of these are the sources you're using, this is the one to look into. As I'm still stuck in SD land for the foreseeable future, I can't vouch for it personally. But the fact that most professional review sites use it for calibration and testing of HD sources should tell you something.

So: brain exploding yet?

Simpler: Absolutely use THX. If you're feeling up to it, either DVE or Avia would be good step-ups (there are more comparisons between the two online, so you can get a better sense of which would suit your needs better; the fact that DVE comes with the color filter, for me, makes it the worthier tool despite its buggy interface). And especially if you're using an HD player of whatever variety, get the HQV without reservation.

Hope this helps!
post #2132 of 2201
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Originally Posted by powerknowledge View Post

That helps immensely. I just may pick up an NC85 this weekend and give it a test run! Thanks, thanks, and thanks again.

You are welcome
Rob
post #2133 of 2201
Hi,
I'm considering one of these players, but was wondering if you can send HDMI to the display and at the same time run digital audio (via either optical or coax) to a receiver (my Yamaha YSP
-1 does not accept HDMI)
Or to put it another way...are all the outputs hot?
Thanks,
Rob
post #2134 of 2201
Yes, I had mine hooked up HDMI to my projector and digital coax to the receiver with no problem. I'm assuming that digital optical out would behave the same way.
post #2135 of 2201
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Originally Posted by mackiefan View Post

Hi,
I'm considering one of these players, but was wondering if you can send HDMI to the display and at the same time run digital audio (via either optical or coax) to a receiver (my Yamaha YSP
-1 does not accept HDMI)
Or to put it another way...are all the outputs hot?
Thanks,
Rob


Yep. I have mine with HDMI to the TV and optical cable to the receiver and it works great.

I"m very happy with this player. I bought the Samsung DVD 1080P7 first as it was on sale for $30 less, but it wasn't working right as it wouldn't save any settings changes when you powered off (namely, wouldn't keep the audio on dolby digital and always defaulted back to PCM).

I haven't had a single problem with the Sony, and the picture and sound quality is great.
post #2136 of 2201
Thanks!
That pretty much seals the deal for me.
Appreciate the input
Rob
post #2137 of 2201
I picked up my Sony NS75H DVD player today. I had another brand with HDMI and was 50/50 with getting the Sony. I am really glad I did, the old one is going back. There is a remarkable difference between the Sony and the other player! Picture is so much clearer and crisper on regular dvd's. I have a huge DVD collection and was really disappointed with the quality of my first (hdmi) player. I have a Sony LCD KDF-46E2000, and until the hd war is over, I really wanted to have a player that could give my dvds the best possible picture quality. On sale here at BB in Canada for $99.00. VERY happy I made the purchase. My hdmi cable was only $12.00 at monoprice. No complaints there either.
post #2138 of 2201
Sonystyle is giving free shipping so a good time to buy this player there (new and refurbed) (or PS3).
post #2139 of 2201
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Originally Posted by Luno View Post

I picked up my Sony NS75H DVD player today. I had another brand with HDMI and was 50/50 with getting the Sony. I am really glad I did, the old one is going back. There is a remarkable difference between the Sony and the other player! Picture is so much clearer and crisper on regular dvd's. I have a huge DVD collection and was really disappointed with the quality of my first (hdmi) player. I have a Sony LCD KDF-46E2000, and until the hd war is over, I really wanted to have a player that could give my dvds the best possible picture quality. On sale here at BB in Canada for $99.00. VERY happy I made the purchase. My hdmi cable was only $12.00 at monoprice. No complaints there either.

What was the "other brand", if you don't mind me asking?

(ps: Monoprice absolutely rules, don't they? I got a 6' HDMI cable for about $15 with a build quality that blows away the high-end Monster at 6X-8X the price...)
post #2140 of 2201
The old one was a KOSS I picked up at CanTire for 80 bucks (hdmi with cord). I know the pq will never be anything close to HD, but the Sony certainly and obviously does a much much nicer job with my standard dvds.
post #2141 of 2201
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Originally Posted by Huey View Post

Sonystyle is giving free shipping so a good time to buy this player there (new and refurbed) (or PS3).


Thanks for pointing that Sony was offering free shipping. Bought the refurb model last night and it's now on its way. I can't wait =)

Once I get the player, are there any firmware updates that I need to d/l?
post #2142 of 2201
I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.

If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.

At any rate, I'm all-ears on any of your advice about whether I should pick up an NS75 -- I've got a 60" LCD RPTV (the Sony 60XS955) and am currently using the (non-upscaling) Pioneer DV-45A, having resisted the urge to pick-up an HD-A2 since I already have the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on.

Thanks!
post #2143 of 2201
I had a Sony 5 disc (non-upconvert) hooked up through component and then the NH75S through component. I noticed a slight difference (even on my 100" screen). I then hooked up the HD-D2 (think Costco Version of the HD-A2) and noticed a lot bigger difference.

In my opinion, the NH75 is a slight increase over a progressive scan 480p
post #2144 of 2201
Sony 75H does NOT upconvert through component for copy protected DVDs. Thus, you are likely comparing one 480p to another and that's why it's only "slightly" different.
post #2145 of 2201
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Originally Posted by Huey View Post

Sony 75H does NOT upconvert through component for copy protected DVDs. Thus, you are likely comparing one 480p to another and that's why it's only "slightly" different.

Didn't think of that and you are right, so I pulled out my trusty LG LST-3510A (which will upconvert through component) and it does look quite a bit better than the Sony through component, but not as good as the Toshiba HD-D2 through HDMI...so no really fair way to a comparison.

All I can say is that the Toshiba (HDMI) does a better job at up-converting than the Sony (HDMI). Thus the reason I'm selling the Sony to a co-worker for $50.

He gets a good deal, I get a little cash and the player gets out of the house.
post #2146 of 2201
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Originally Posted by yangc View Post

I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.

If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.

At any rate, I'm all-ears on any of your advice about whether I should pick up an NS75 -- I've got a 60" LCD RPTV (the Sony 60XS955) and am currently using the (non-upscaling) Pioneer DV-45A, having resisted the urge to pick-up an HD-A2 since I already have the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on.

Thanks!

I had two different non upconverting DVD players connected with component to a 62 Toshiba DLP and then connected a Sony NS75 with HDMI to the same display. The Sony NS75 has significantly better picture quality.
post #2147 of 2201
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Originally Posted by yangc View Post

I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.

If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.
Thanks!

I previously had two different progressive scan dvd players connected via component cables. The NS75H through HDMI to my Panny plasma was clearly an improvement. I now have a Toshiba HD D2 so the 75H has been moved to the bedroom. The upconverting in the D2 is a little better than the 75H IMO. I would encourage you to go ahead with your purchase plans.
post #2148 of 2201
Thanks for the advice, guys!

I did look for an HD-D2 at Costco, but was unsuccessful.

I think now that it may make more sense for me to pick up an A2 or D2 and just sell my 360 add-on -- That would give me excellent upscaling, plus Dolby True HD capability when I upgrade to an HDMI receiver. Hmmm... I suppose I probably should've pulled the trigger on that while the instant rebate was being offered.


Quote:
Originally Posted by yangc View Post

I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.

If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.

At any rate, I'm all-ears on any of your advice about whether I should pick up an NS75 -- I've got a 60" LCD RPTV (the Sony 60XS955) and am currently using the (non-upscaling) Pioneer DV-45A, having resisted the urge to pick-up an HD-A2 since I already have the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on.

Thanks!
post #2149 of 2201
I've read a couple of reviews on pricegrabber about the Sony DVP-NC85HS in that the remote does not work through glass (i.e. in a cabinet). Is there any merit to this? Has anyone had a problem with this?

Thanks
post #2150 of 2201
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Originally Posted by badassfajita View Post

I've read a couple of reviews on pricegrabber about the Sony DVP-NC85HS in that the remote does not work through glass (i.e. in a cabinet). Is there any merit to this? Has anyone had a problem with this?

Thanks

My NC85 is behind smoked glass and i don't have any problems with it. I have the supplied and 2 additional remotes programed to operate it and all 3 work just fine. I usually sit about 11' from it. Angle is usually dead on, but sometimes I sit 30 degrees or so off center.

Rob
post #2151 of 2201
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Originally Posted by badassfajita View Post

I've read a couple of reviews on pricegrabber about the Sony DVP-NC85HS in that the remote does not work through glass (i.e. in a cabinet). Is there any merit to this? Has anyone had a problem with this?

Thanks

Mine is behind glass and I have no problems with the remote.
post #2152 of 2201
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Originally Posted by Huey View Post

Sony 75H does NOT upconvert through component for copy protected DVDs. Thus, you are likely comparing one 480p to another and that's why it's only "slightly" different.

And I broke the HDMI slot on my S75!
post #2153 of 2201
I am thinking of buying this player. Does this Sony DVP-NS75H plays VCDs (Video CDs)? I owned Samsung 1087P as it wasn't playing VCDs. I have lot of VCDs and looking for upconverting player that plays VCDs as well.
post #2154 of 2201
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Originally Posted by my4065f View Post

I am thinking of buying this player. Does this Sony DVP-NS75H plays VCDs (Video CDs)? I owned Samsung 1087P as it wasn't playing VCDs. I have lot of VCDs and looking for upconverting player that plays VCDs as well.

The manual specifically says Yes.
post #2155 of 2201
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Originally Posted by my4065f View Post

I am thinking of buying this player. Does this Sony DVP-NS75H plays VCDs (Video CDs)? I owned Samsung 1087P as it wasn't playing VCDs. I have lot of VCDs and looking for upconverting player that plays VCDs as well.

Yes.
post #2156 of 2201
Look, if you're trying to find an easy answer about whether or not this player is a good deal for the money -

I'm a long-time lurker on this board and have gotten tons of useful info from it. I'm watching Braveheart on my first night of owning this player and I'm completely blown away by how sick it looks. I have a Samsung 4264 and don't have any HDTVs or up-converting DVD players to compare it with, but can tell you that the picture is so good that I am chuckling out loud at times, noticing how awesome it looks. I bought this thing for the best hundred bucks I have spent in a long time.

I'm very impressed.
post #2157 of 2201
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

Yes.

Thanks. I am testing this with VCDs and other DVDs that I have. Apparently it plays only region 1 dvds. I tried with dvds other than region 1 and it doesn't play. Is there any hack available on this dvd player for other regions?

Thanks in advance.
post #2158 of 2201
Not that I'm aware of. It has been said many times, in this thread, that this player is Region 1 only (the manual says it too). Since Sony also is a Movie producer, they are very strict about this.
post #2159 of 2201
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Originally Posted by DanGords View Post

Look, if you're trying to find an easy answer about whether or not this player is a good deal for the money -

I'm a long-time lurker on this board and have gotten tons of useful info from it. I'm watching Braveheart on my first night of owning this player and I'm completely blown away by how sick it looks. I have a Samsung 4264 and don't have any HDTVs or up-converting DVD players to compare it with, but can tell you that the picture is so good that I am chuckling out loud at times, noticing how awesome it looks. I bought this thing for the best hundred bucks I have spent in a long time.

I'm very impressed.

Some questions for those still on the fence:

1) What's your display's native resolution, and what type of display is it (that Sammy model number corresponds to a DLP and to a plasma set);

2) Are you connected via HDMI or component?

3) What was your previous player?

4) Before the Sony, did you have your display use its internal upscaling technology (can't remember what Samsung calls this on their displays) or did you simply run the 480i signal in untouched? (The purpose of this question is to see how the Sony's upscaling compares to that offered by your display).

Thanks!
post #2160 of 2201
So after testing out the NS75H these are my observations:

My TV is a Pio 5070HD
My receiver is an Onkyo 605
Previous DVD player was a sony NS575P, 480p capabilities

On my setup, the DVD player produced the best image at 720p.

Overall the improvement in picture quality is noticeable, but minimal IMHO. Movies such as Star Wars ep. III, Spiderman 2, or LOTR did look slightly better compared to my old dvd player, but not by much. Colors appeared to have more pop, especially in Star Wars' Corusant space battle at the beginning. Explosions and laser blasts stood out more. However sharpness and detail didn't change much. This could be due to the my Pio TV which have a reputation for having a softer more film-like quality.

Sound is significantly louder on this DVD player. Previous player needed my receiver's sound dial to be set at 70 for a theater like experience, but with this player it's more like 62. Clarity is about the same although I am no audiophile.

Overall, for $65 it is a reasonable upgrade. Picture quality is better although not a whole lot and it is mainly is color saturation. However, sharpness not even close to HD signals. Sound is louder and I don't have to crank up my receiver as much to obtain the same output.
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