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post #1 of 167
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A lot of people are renting this flick now and seeing it for the first time. Some of the idiots that downed it way back are well idiotic and moronic. This was a Dreamworks project by Speilberg. The character development and storyline are superb. This is a flat out great movie, with chase scenes unequaled. Futuristic superb and scary as to the C word. Shame on you who cut down this flick - you know not what a good movie is.
post #2 of 167
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Some of the idiots that downed it way back are well idiotic and moronic.

Very eloquently stated, the first post in the article and you're already making personal attacks . I'll stand up and be counted as one of the "idiotic and moronic" if being the opposite means liking this film.

If others like this film that's cool by me, but if you're on the fence take it from an idiot and a moron and don't blind buy this one. At best it's a "wait for cable" movie.

Edit: Looking at the title of this thread I thought I would respond a little more to the assertion that "The Island" is the best sci-fi movie of the last 10 years.

A list of some sci-fi movies released in the last 10 years (1995-2005) in no particular order (and not necessarily ones considered to be "great" by me):

Dark City
The Matrix
Star Wars Episode 3
Serenity
A.I.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
War of the Worlds
12 Monkeys
Ghost in the Shell
Pitch Black
Chronicles of Riddick
The Fifth Element
post #3 of 167
The only good thing about The Island was Scarlett Johansson. I could contentedly watch that angelic face deliver even the most inane dialogue in even the most poorly directed film--as I did when I watched The Island...

It's just a rehash of low-budget 70's schlock The Clonus Horror anyway, nothing original or unique. Definitely not the best scifi flick in the month it was released, much less the decade.
post #4 of 167
While I did like the movie, I would never call someone idiotic for disliking it. Everyone likes different things and there's no wrong or right about it.
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy View Post

"The Island"- Best Science Fiction Flick in Ten Years...

You have got to be kidding....
post #6 of 167
Well, I agree that it was better than it's critics gave it credit for. I don't know if I'd go as far as calling it the "best" sci-fi flick in ten years though. Out of joekun's list I'd say it was at least as good as, if not better than:

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
War of the Worlds
12 Monkeys
Ghost in the Shell
Pitch Black

As far as my favorite out of his list goes, I'd have to put "Serenity" at the top.
post #7 of 167
Although I liked The Island for what it was, I would not call it the best sci-fi in 10 yrs. For that distinction, it should be original, have great characters, or thought-provoking. For me, having just great action scenes is NOT what good sci-fi is about. Unfortunately, that's what Hollywood thinks, so instead of thought-provoking classics like The Day The Earth Stood Still, Soylent Green, Forbidden Planet, Planet of the Apes, and The Matrix, we get over-the-top films like ID4.

In the first half of The Island, I saw much of the film was borrowed from Logan's Run, THX1138, Coma (I haven't seen The Clonus Horror). As far as the action is concerned, it was over-the-top, highly unbelievable, like superhero comic-book stuff or Roger Moore era James Bond and detracted from the basic storyline and its implications. In recent yrs, Hollywood hasn't been able to make a good sci-fi flick w/o resorting to action & CGI. However, it redeemed itself with WOTW. Not only did WOTW capture the terror, confusion, and devastation, it combined that with state-of-the-art special effects and action sequences. I was on the edge of my seat for 2 hrs with that film.

My wife and I agreed that about 20 minutes could have been edited out of the The Island and made it a tighter & more enjoyable movie. THX1138 it is NOT. And more scenes should have been devoted to Scarlet

I hope to be intrigued with the original Russian version of Solaris, since I got the DVD last week. 12 Monkeys and The Matrix should be on the top ten list, for sure. I can't remember when The Abyss came out, but it too was thought provoking, had the wonderment of a hostile and deadly environment, and showed humanity and its best & worst.

ss9001
post #8 of 167
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy View Post

A lot of people are renting this flick now and seeing it for the first time. Some of the idiots that downed it way back are well idiotic and moronic. This was a Dreamworks project by Speilberg. The character development and storyline are superb. This is a flat out great movie, with chase scenes unequaled. Futuristic superb and scary as to the C word. Shame on you who cut down this flick - you know not what a good movie is.

Count me among the moronic idiots. But I do know what a good movie is-- and The Island aint it.
post #9 of 167
I was disappointed that Scarlett even chose to act in this movie. I hope she goes back to acting in movies like Lost in Translation and love Song for Bobby Long.
post #10 of 167
I enjoyed The Island for what it was, a fun action packed popcorn movie.
post #11 of 167
Is this a joke? Best Sci Fi in 10 years??
post #12 of 167
Count me in the moron club.

Jon
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Is this a joke? Best Sci Fi in 10 years??

The OP must be very easy to please
I love scifi, and I completely agree, it is not even close to a Best. At best, a C+ as scifi goes. So I'm also in the id-10T club.

ss9001
post #14 of 167
another in the moron club here. only for the fact that i watched that piece of rubbish on a plane i would never have sat through it

i struggle to find one redeeming feature...i'm not a fan of miss johansson, so even that didn't work for me..
post #15 of 167
It was good to see this one flop like a dying fish at the box office. Maybe it'll help send the message that there's no use for Bay-esque dreck.
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Originally Posted by Ron-P View Post

I enjoyed The Island for what it was, a fun action packed popcorn movie.

+1
post #17 of 167
I wish people would stop being so harsh about what they consider a good/bad movie. We all like different types of movies, end of story. I hated Pulp Fiction and loved Van Helsing. Many people have just the opposite opinion. As long as we all enjoy what we watch who the heck cares what someone else thought of a movie. That is one thing that I do NOT trust AVS for... opinions on movies. There is lots of knowledge to be gained here but letting others pick what movie you watch is rediculous.

I just wish they didn't screw up the Canadian disc... 5.1 track is French, 2.0 track is English! I refuse to listen to either

Anyone want to loan me their English 5.1 version so I can offer an opinion?
post #18 of 167
Well!!! you can count me in as a moronic idiot as well. I thought of the movie as pure turd.

but to call it best sci-fi movie in the past 10 years is a bit far fetched.
but you know what they say....to each his own.

in this case neither of us are moronic idiots, we just have different tastes....that's all!!!
post #19 of 167
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy View Post

...Futuristic superb and scary as to the C word...

Eh? "C word"? I must really be getting old. Is this some kind of new slang?

BTW, I've got The Island on our Netflix list. We'll probably give it a try with a few glasses of wine when there's nothing better to watch.

Doug
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<--------- i'm with stupid
post #21 of 167
IMO
It'd be extremely difficult to knock The Fifth Element off as my #1 SciFi of the last ten years; no way does The Island do that!!
post #22 of 167
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy View Post

This was a Dreamworks project by Speilberg.

This film was directed by Michael Bay. That should be enough info to establish its place in the pecking order of great sci fi for the past 10 years.
post #23 of 167
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy View Post

This was a Dreamworks project by Speilberg.

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Originally Posted by Joseph View Post

This film was directed by Michael Bay.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy View Post

idiotic and moronic


post #24 of 167
The Fifth Element is one of the few movies that just gets better *every* time you see it. Having taken some film classes in college, it is a tremendous film, even though many people took it as serious rather than a fun, tongue in cheek romp. Blade Runner has to be just about the best serious Sci-Fi movie still. Well, that and 2001.
post #25 of 167
I thought it was pretty underrated, though not the best SF movie of last year. I'd give that title to Serenity. But I was surprised at how The Island had such a bad reputation, after I enjoyed the heck out of it. Sure it borrowed from THX 1138, Clonus, and Logan's Run, but we were overdue for that type of movie anyway.
post #26 of 167
man, at all the haters hatin on the hater.
post #27 of 167
I didn't know Michael Bay was from Houston. You learn something every day!

Hey Mr. Bay, are you really doing the next Jason picture? It will be the best Friday the 13th in ten years!

Tool.
post #28 of 167
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Originally Posted by alpha21 View Post

IMO
It'd be extremely difficult to knock The Fifth Element off as my #1 SciFi of the last ten years; no way does The Island do that!!

Well... The Fifth Element "could" have been one of the best in the last ten years, had they not had that stupid Chris Tucker role in it. That one character totally ruined an otherwise flawless Sci-Fi movie.
post #29 of 167
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Originally Posted by Rutgar View Post

Well... The Fifth Element "could" have been one of the best in the last ten years, had they not had that stupid Chris Tucker role in it. That one character totally ruined an otherwise flawless Sci-Fi movie.

Rent Prince's Under the Cherry Moon and then check CT's performance again.
post #30 of 167
This 'Moron Club' is the fastest growing organization I've ever seen. And I haven't yet watched The Island. That probably has something to do with Bay coining it "a summer popcorn-movie". If this film is better than I, Robot (a popcorn-movie that's actually decent), it must be a brilliant piece of work.

BTW, CT didn't destroy FE, as it was clearly toungue(tongue)-in-cheek the whole ride.
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