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post #1561 of 3265
Hmm. So i switched the xbox with my STB and now it's not doing it anymore Maybe a connection was bad! It's kinda hard to to get the componet cables in all the way with the cables plugged in right next to the other ones! can't get a grip on them! Plus the fact they make componet cables so damn tight you could swing the TV from them once they plugged in! I'm always worried i'm gonna break the inputs trying to push them in all the way.
post #1562 of 3265
I think I've decided to step back again and relax and try not to freak out anymore. Yes I see some bowing on the bottom of the screen sometimes, but its not all the time so I don't think its worth messing with a global setting. Yes the top left corner isn't perfect, there doesn't seem to be any setting to just straighten that out without messing up anything else (soebody can certainly correct be there I suppose).

I believe the bowing problem is on the computer is completely related to the computer. Remeber I said before how it had way to much MDVS with the standard settings ... then I enabled the "show only standard hdtv resolutions" ... fixed the MDVS, caused the bowing, hence its the computer. You'd have thunk this type of problem would only happen on a vga cable on a CRT monitor, but I guess not. Anyway hence why its the computer/drivers, not the TV. Since I am pertty much happy with the settings everywhere else now, I think I'm going to continue trying to pursue this angle.

Unless somebody wants to step and just say ATIs drivers are way better for this, I think I'm going to try the awesome resulution tweaking program powerstrip --- it has all sorts of internal geometry tweaks and if you search "powerstrip 720p" on google on this site you'll find some old threads on this site talking about good 720p settings on a 1080i tv, that I'm hoping will help.

Anyways wow CP it certainly looks like you put a lot of work into all that stuff, I still don't even know what half of those settings are. However, it will certainly be fun to try them out at some point.
post #1563 of 3265
I have no clue what you are trying to do or want to do with your xbr970 turbo! Did you buy it just for use as a PC monitor or what?
post #1564 of 3265
If you are having the same problems as me then the settings i posted will fix 93% of your problems.
post #1565 of 3265
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Originally Posted by ClayPigeon View Post

Do they look like thsi cali? I bene getting these since day 1 IF i turn on my Tv while it's still on the componet input my xbox 360 is plugged into.


Actually, it's not nearly as bad as that, but they seem to have gone away, (good for me). Just little bits of fuzz every now and then. Too bad I won't get actual HDTV for probably another year (when cable is free from the university, I refuse to pay for an entirely different cable service). I'll get HD from my 360 or PS3, whichever one I get at some point during the summer. :-P
post #1566 of 3265
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Originally Posted by caliwillbemine View Post

Actually, it's not nearly as bad as that, but they seem to have gone away, (good for me). Just little bits of fuzz every now and then. Too bad I won't get actual HDTV for probably another year (when cable is free from the university, I refuse to pay for an entirely different cable service). I'll get HD from my 360 or PS3, whichever one I get at some point during the summer. :-P

$6/month for HD? Then why not just buy a SD-TV? I understand where your coming from, but $6/month? If you can afford this TV, on sale or not, really, what's a few bucks a month?

Or why not a HD antenna?


And HD-cable isn't going "public" until February 2009.
post #1567 of 3265
For anyone out there still thinking about getting one of these, CC seems to have taken it off their website. Might be able to get one in store still. I picked mine up earlier this week from an online purchase when it was at it's lowest price. I know I'll be happy with it after some adjustments. Some small geometry issues that I'll either tweak or live with, but the overscan is pretty massive. I'm waiting for my DVE disc to come from blockbuster online before messing with any of it. Also, I bought that Stormark stand from Ikea. It was obviously made with this television as it's model. Shape, size, and weight limitations are all just about perfect. And it's only $60.

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/store...umber=20074716

MjC
post #1568 of 3265
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Originally Posted by UWisconsin97 View Post

$6/month for HD? Then why not just buy a SD-TV? I understand where your coming from, but $6/month? If you can afford this TV, on sale or not, really, what's a few bucks a month?

Or why not a HD antenna?


And HD-cable isn't going "public" until February 2009.

Well, actually, I'd have to get a completely different cable service (the University cable service is its own thing, ane the only upgrade allowed is the upgrade for Showtime and HBO). Actually, I don't think I can even have different cable installed, I guess that's what I get for living in a University owned apartment. I guess I'll just pick up an HD antenna, that would be the only option until at least the next fall ('08).
post #1569 of 3265
Quick question. Does the 970 have the anti-glare coating on the screen?
post #1570 of 3265
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Originally Posted by MCalvert1 View Post

Also, I bought that Stormark stand from Ikea. It was obviously made with this television as it's model. Shape, size, and weight limitations are all just about perfect. And it's only $60.



MjC

If you have any pics of your Sony on that stand, I would like to see them. That's a really good price for a stand.....if it fits.
post #1571 of 3265
Hi, on May 8 I got my 970 delivered, very happy with the picture. I was told a power conditioner will improve the picture some. Eventually I plan on having a nice surround sound system hooked up to it, Pioneer Elite receiver, Blue Ray player and nice 7.1 speakers system. Is it worth it to buy a power conditioner for it now? If you think it is worth it, can you also recommend one or two please.
post #1572 of 3265
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Originally Posted by landlover View Post

Hi, on May 8 I got my 970 delivered, very happy with the picture. I was told a power conditioner will improve the picture some. Eventually I plan on having a nice surround sound system hooked up to it, Pioneer Elite receiver, Blue Ray player and nice 7.1 speakers system. Is it worth it to buy a power conditioner for it now? If you think it is worth it, can you also recommend one or two please.


I plan on buying one, for $100, with 5200 joule rating and 11 outlets, for $100 from Belkin. For the price, I cannot pass it up. They retail for $200+


The ONLY device that will improve the picture, is a Flea or Flea HDMI. Don't fall for all that other stuff.


http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=flea-hdmi&L=0

They sell for $799, and if you're serious about cleaning up your image, it's worth every cent. I am buying one..
post #1573 of 3265
I also have a belkin pure Av power conditioner/ surge protector.

damn tho wisconsin that flea thing is more then the TV!
post #1574 of 3265
This is the one i have and it doesn't do a damn thing

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...uct_Id=250818#


Eliminates popping, hissing, static and snow

LOL lies! lies i tell you!
post #1575 of 3265
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Originally Posted by ClayPigeon View Post

I also have a belkin pure Av power conditioner/ surge protector.

damn tho wisconsin that flea thing is more then the TV!

But if you have some serious mosiquto, picture noise etc. It is a MUST have.


I couldn't see spending more than the TV is worth, for some device, but with a 30-day unconditional money back guarantee, and many people rave about it, it's worth a shot.

I have pretty bad artifacts, mosquito, and noise in my image, a few HD channels, and even more SD channels. This will clean it up..
post #1576 of 3265
Hi, I'm a newB...but I just wanted to say I just got the 970 days ago and I already love it. I had a rear-projection Toshiba for more than 4 years which was great, but was so old it didn't even have an hdmi input. There were minor issues with my 42" Toshiba. Some dvd's didn't look great, others did. But worse of all, it got a burn-in effect from (of all things) using the PoP too much. I had been so careful not to achieve burn-in from sidebars or letter boxes, I didn't even realize you could get it from utilizing the PoP too much.

Anyway, after doing some MAJOR tweaking, I believe I finally have my settings right on the new Sony and MAN does the HD look great. I was watching Nascar for about 15 minutes last night...and I NEVER watch Nascar. Some of the HD channels that looked so-so on my Toshiba (like Universal HD or TNT) now look amazing. Basketball games looks so much better also. Even my standard channels look way better. When I watch Countdown on MSNBC, Keith Olbermann looks almost as sharp as HD. Finally, my dvd's look better all around...even my older ones...the only problem is I absolutely HAD to take the color temp from "warm" to "neutral" in movie settings. Warm didn't look good at all.

I do however have a major problem. When watching non-HD stations, the right sidebar is way larger than the left. And there's also a little green discoloration on the right side too. But I've got the Sears tech coming to look at that on Monday...wish me luck on that.

Anyway, sorry for the long post...but I saw this Official thread on the 970 and had to chime in!
post #1577 of 3265
LOL i found myself watching programs i don't normally watch as well! everything looks good in HD. As for the sidebar problem i had the same problems but was able to fix it in the service menu. Give your set some time to break in and when you feel comfortable enough and after reading some info you can get into the service menu and correct those errors. Also tho keep in mind alot of program material depends on the station, so while having a problem on one, it may be absent on another station.

Oh wait nevermind! see you have a tech coming. Hopefully he can fix the problems!
post #1578 of 3265
Do CRT's have a "burn-in" issue? I haven't heard of them having this issue..
post #1579 of 3265
I should call up and have a tech come also just for the hell of it. Maybe he can fix some of my horizontal convergence issues.
post #1580 of 3265
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Originally Posted by UWisconsin97 View Post

Do CRT's have a "burn-in" issue? I haven't heard of them having this issue..

I'm pretty sure they do, phosphor burn- in although not as bad as older CRT's. I have some green discolarations on the sides of my set, but not bad and i'm willing to bet it's from my speakers. They are shielded tho but i had issues with them on my other TV as well. I have them pretty far away from the set but i'm sure they are still causing it.
post #1581 of 3265
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Originally Posted by ClayPigeon View Post

Oh wait nevermind! see you have a tech coming. Hopefully he can fix the problems!

I sure hope he can fix it. I'm very glad I don't have noticeable geometric distortions. I used to have a Sony Wega 36" tv and it would bow dramatically in two different places. It would be weird to see a crawl at the bottom of the screen(on CNN or MSNBC) as it would move straight....then dip...straight again...then bigger dip...then straight.
post #1582 of 3265
I have the bowing on the top. The left corner bows down slightly. It's annoying cause i know where it is, lol so i'm always looking at it.
post #1583 of 3265
LOL right as i posted that i was trying to fix it in the service menu. Got it better but not perfect. I'm able to really notice it right now cause i have dead mans chest on in the background on starzHD and they are showing it in letterbox. So i'm trying to forget about using any test patterns and trying to get it as unnoticeable as possible while watching, and not going by what a static test pattern tells me.
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post #1585 of 3265
Just in case anyone is interested in this TV and hasn't purchased one yet, Rainbow Appliance is selling them on Ebay right now for $535. Shipping is $135 for most places in the U.S., but if you're in NYC, Westchester, LI, Rockland or Northern NJ you can get local shipping for $50.


Here's the link in case anyone is interested. (just insert ebay then .com if you don't know any better)

http://cgi.*********/Sony-34-FD-Trin...QQcmdZViewItem
post #1586 of 3265
Does anyone know how to adjust the green convergence? At the picture tube? I've got the service manual and can adjust the red/blue, from the service menus, but not the green. The red/blue is fine, but the green is pretty far off.
post #1587 of 3265
What you mean? you have the back of the Tv off the set? All convergence for vertical is done in the service menu, horizontal only with magnets on the back of the set i thought? When i adjusted my conv green was pretty much the reference and was right on the white line. You should adjust the red and blue to match. If you have the avia color filters use them for that! it's soooo much easier. PS hook a brother up with the service manual!
post #1588 of 3265
Unless you trying with the circle magnets on the back of the set? let me know whats up.
post #1589 of 3265
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Originally Posted by ClayPigeon View Post

What you mean? you have the back of the Tv off the set? All convergence for vertical is done in the service menu, horizontal only with magnets on the back of the set i thought? When i adjusted my conv green was pretty much the reference and was right on the white line. You should adjust the red and blue to match. If you have the avia color filters use them for that! it's soooo much easier. PS hook a brother up with the service manual!


The green is off, the red/blue can't be adjusted to match it in the service menus. I can adjust the red/blue to meet each other, but that isn't where the green is, so unless there's something to adjust the green and not the red/blue, it can't be done in the SM. The green isn't on the white line. I got the manual on ebay for $12.
post #1590 of 3265
Hmm not sure then. I just use the other service manuals from differnet model sonys ( such as the xbr960) that are posted on here and piece them together to find out what does what, since some parameters are labeled different. They are more like guidelines. Anyuways, back to the subject at hand! I wish i could help but i have no clue about that green convergence problem. Like i said all i did was use the D-CONV convergence settings and tweaked them to perfection. Nothing was as way off as you are describing, and everything lined up with an adjustment here, adjustment there. Out of the box tho the sides were WAYY wacked on my set! but i got them pretty damn near perfect with just a few tweaks. I'm sure somebody with more experience on this subject will post and help you out. Good luck with the tweaks! Also did you just pick this set up? or have you had it for a while?
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