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post #1051 of 1236
I'll post my impressions of the Elunevision screen later this week when I get it setup too kUH9
post #1052 of 1236
I am looking at getting the 120" electric tab-tension screen. I originally was going to get a cinetension2 but heard about these screens so decided to look towards getting either the Reference Studio 4K or the Titan screen. From the earlier discussions it seems like the Titan screen will have similar texture to the cinetension2 and the Reference 4K is significantly better.

This will be my first screen so trying to determine if I should go all out and get the reference studio 4K or just stick with the Titan.

For more info, the screen will be installed in front of 2 windows that are covered with blinds and curtains so not concerned with light coming through. Most of the viewing will be in late afternoon and with the windows facing east there will not be much light coming through. Room will be painted asphalt gray and the ceiling will be left as is which is a beige/tan color.

Edited by utee05 - 9/11/13 at 9:17am
post #1053 of 1236
I read at least half of this entire thread, and with a shaky confidence ordered an EV‐T3‐120‐1.0 Reference Studio 120" Tab‐Tensioned Motorized Projector Screen 16:9 just now.

Both Milosh and Dave were incredibly helpful and responsive, even helping to rush an order for an important event I am hoping to have the screen for.

If all goes well I should have the screen set up in my media room this weekend, and will post a review of how it looks with my Epson 5020UB.
post #1054 of 1236
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Originally Posted by poeticfolly View Post

I read at least half of this entire thread, and with a shaky confidence ordered an EV‐T3‐120‐1.0 Reference Studio 120" Tab‐Tensioned Motorized Projector Screen 16:9 just now.

Both Milosh and Dave were incredibly helpful and responsive, even helping to rush an order for an important event I am hoping to have the screen for.

If all goes well I should have the screen set up in my media room this weekend, and will post a review of how it looks with my Epson 5020UB.

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this as I will be looking to order the exact same screen. Do you have any experience with other screens to provide a comparison?
post #1055 of 1236
I have not yet personally owned any screens, no.
post #1056 of 1236
I am exactly in the same situation. I've been analyzing this for weeks (my wife would say way over-analyzing) and several times was a click away from ordering the Elite Cinetension2. This would be my first screen unless you count a painted foamboard that I've been using with my BenQ W1080ST. My family room has lots of surfaces that reflect light and has ambient lighting during the day.

Are there any concerns with using a short-throw projector with the Reference 4K material? The projector is sitting on a coffee table for now but I plan to drop it from the celing.
post #1057 of 1236
I will probably pull the trigger on this screen in a week or so. I have pretty much ruled out the cinetension2 and at the very least would get the Titan screen. Hopefully other benq owners of w1070 or w1080st will chime in on their thoughts.
post #1058 of 1236
Well - I can confirm the Elunevision guys are masters of rush shipping! Called YESTERDAY and wanted to magically see about getting a screen by Saturday. 2PM today the screen was delivered to my home in Tampa! $100 rush fee. Wow. Thanks Dave.

I will set it all up tomorrow and let everyone know my thoughts.
post #1059 of 1236
Hi guys, I just bought a elunevision a week ago and today the screen released by its self while I was watching and retracted in pretty hard. The right side of the screen kinda of came out of the white pole ( which the handle is on to bring the screen down)
Id rather not go through the hassle of undrilling and returning it but any way to put screen back in? I can pull of the white caps but the white pole is pretty tight to push the screen back in.


Its just a tiny amount, I dont think it will affect viewing, maybe 0.2mm out .

EDIT: nvm used a ruler to push it back in. I hope this didnt loosen the screen material
Edited by cruisx - 9/17/13 at 5:46pm
post #1060 of 1236
if you are US resident click here. Just click that and you are ready to go.agkiBt
post #1061 of 1236
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if you are US resident click here. Just click that and you are ready to go.agkiBt

Did you happen forget to create the link?
post #1062 of 1236
Anyone know if the elunevision tab-tensioned screen shares parts with the Visual Apex VAPEX? Photos show the wireless trigger is the same and the photos of the screen case/housing looks similar.
post #1063 of 1236
This was covered previously in the thread. Most of the mechanical and electrical parts are similar. The Reference Studio 4K 100EL material is proprietary and not the same. They use a low-end material, which has the texturing, the sheen in bright scenes, etc.
post #1064 of 1236
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Originally Posted by miloshj View Post

This was covered previously in the thread. Most of the mechanical and electrical parts are similar. The Reference Studio 4K 100EL material is proprietary and not the same. They use a low-end material, which has the texturing, the sheen in bright scenes, etc.

Thanks Milosh. I went back and read half of this thread and see that now.

I'm still deciding which screen to get and had some questions. You mentioned that the Titan used a similar screen material as the VisualApex. Is it exactly the same? I ask because the Vapex is claimed to have a gain of 1.1 and the Titan has a claim of 1.2

More importantly, I've read reviews where people praise the Vapex screen for not having hotspotting, sparkles, or other issues (at least not badly). What I'm getting at is that I think I'd be satisfied with the vapex, or the titan if the material is the same. But my concern is that you mentioned that the titan screen material will have hotspotting issues in comparison to the reference screen.

One last question, is the Titan and Reference case different?


Thanks!
post #1065 of 1236
Ahkim: I don't know if this is helpful, but I've had two Vapex screens and, most recently, the Elunevision manual pull down screen in cinema grey...their least expensive screen.
I felt the Elunevision was notably better than the Vapex.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/648951/elunevision-screens/990#post_22995773



Milosh/Dave: I'm ready to move up to the Reference screen. Sent an email yesterday. Please get back to me when you get a minute....just had a quick question about mounting.
post #1066 of 1236
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I'm still deciding which screen to get and had some questions. You mentioned that the Titan used a similar screen material as the VisualApex. Is it exactly the same? I ask because the Vapex is claimed to have a gain of 1.1 and the Titan has a claim of 1.2

More importantly, I've read reviews where people praise the Vapex screen for not having hotspotting, sparkles, or other issues (at least not badly). What I'm getting at is that I think I'd be satisfied with the vapex, or the titan if the material is the same. But my concern is that you mentioned that the titan screen material will have hotspotting issues in comparison to the reference screen.

One last question, is the Titan and Reference case different?


Thanks!

The Titan and Reference 4K cases are different - both are in full display on the EluneVision website.

No, Vapex does not use any of our screen material. We use our own material for the Titan. Both use materials that are not Reference quality, and thus have some of the less desirable effects, such as texturing, sheen, hot-spotting, etc. I feel that our cinema-white material is noticeably better than any other non-Reference material out there. I can also attest to the fact that the Vapex screen has plenty of texturing and hot-spotting (it'll light up any time you have a bright scene, and you'll see it in mixed scenes as well) - definitely more than our cinema-white material.

In my mind, a Reference screen is something that never "ages" or loses its value (whereas high-end projectors from a few years ago are considered entry-level today) so you may as well purchase a Reference-quality screen, as you'll only have to purchase it once, no matter how many projector upgrades you go through in a decade or more. We do, however, have screens at various price levels, and make sure that any EluneVision screen you can purchase is the best screen you can find at the price level it is sold at.

Milosh
post #1067 of 1236
Thanks Milosh. I think if budget were not issue, it would be a no-brainer to get your reference screen. However, I have a lot of new stuff to buy and the $600 price difference gets me a lot of other stuff.

I put up an old da-lite manual screen (matte white) and watched a couple movies and I had no issue with the quality, brightness, sharpness, etc. I think a videophile (like most people on these boards) would have noticed a difference, but I was satisfied. I'm running a JVC RS45. So with that said, I'm thinking that the Titan or VApex non-reference screen might do the job. Do you guys have an upgrade program if I later decide to get the reference screen?
post #1068 of 1236
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Originally Posted by poeticfolly View Post

Well - I can confirm the Elunevision guys are masters of rush shipping! Called YESTERDAY and wanted to magically see about getting a screen by Saturday. 2PM today the screen was delivered to my home in Tampa! $100 rush fee. Wow. Thanks Dave.

I will set it all up tomorrow and let everyone know my thoughts.

Any report on this?
post #1069 of 1236
Hey all, honestly I am not experienced enough in screens to know if the screen is amazing or not. smile.gif

Coming from a 50" plasma TV, there are a wealth of differences. Obviously - size! I got the 120" EluneVision Reference Studio 4K Tab-Tensioned screen. The guys at EluneVision were awesome and had this thing at my house the day after I ordered it (with a shipping premium of course).

I set it up easily and quickly, in an hour. Mounting made perfect sense, and the operation of the unit was without issue.

I am using a Epson 5020UB Projector, and with the lights off this screen looks brilliant. I have not yet completed buildout of the room, so walls are white, there's significant light leakage from the windows, and there is a good amount of light coming in from the surrounding rooms. Watching a movie or playing a game during the day is still very clear, but I notice a lower level of vibrancy to the colors compared to at night.

In the evening (and I can only imagine even better when I actually get the walls and ceiling painted correctly) the colors pop well, and it's just like being in a theater.

There have been no issues with the screen - it was in perfect condition when it arrived (a very long box!), and although I don't retract it often (we just leave it down), there seem to be no issues when I do. The color is even and shows no weirdness (hot spotting, texturing, sheen).

All in all, I love the screen.
post #1070 of 1236
Hey guys,

I have to tell you that this whole projector thing has been very stressful and expensive. I have gone way past my initial budget. I'm always left with the feeling that something is wrong whether it be setup, calibration, install, materials, etc.
Currently my setup is an EPSON 6020 UB with a visualapex 120" screen.

Choosing a screen has been a nightmare. I am not rich and just can't justify buying a screen for thousands of dollars, so here is my experience so far with budget screens.

My home theatre is in my basement. Unfortunately there is a "built in" so I chose to go Motorized Electric which insanely bumps up the price for screens and is the least desireable if you want a perfectly uniform screen no wrinkles. At any rate the first screen I picked was a cheap ELITE125H that I found for as cheap as $259. Once installed it looked decent to me actually, bare in mind that I have no reference since this is my first projector experience ever. The problem is the motor was pretty much dead on arrival. I figured I just went too cheap and decided not to try another one or the ELITE brand in particular since it seems they are very inconsistent in build quality. After hours of research I risked buying the VisualApex 120". The first one had defects galore. Dimpled depressions, waves, even a needle sized hole it it, and what i assume is hotspot artifacts. VisualApex's customer service is top notch, they immediately sent me a replacement. The screen looks much better, but had a tear where the tab tensioning cord attaches to the screen. Completely defeats the purpose of tab tensioning. I have another replacement screen coming in today. If this one has defects I'm not sure what I am going to do. At $899 the visualapex seems like a great deal but I am not confident in it's build quality. I'm not expecting perfection, but at the very least I expect a defect free, flat, uniform surface. I have been looking at Screen Innovations TSMEX120GA. Problem with this screen is outside of their black diamond series the mounts are all white. Ridiculous. Who would want white walls to match a white mount in their home theatre?

As you can see, screens have been my achilles heel. I'll update how the 3rd visualapex screen works out. Wish me luck.
post #1071 of 1236
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Originally Posted by poeticfolly View Post

Hey all, honestly I am not experienced enough in screens to know if the screen is amazing or not. smile.gif

I am using a Epson 5020UB Projector, and with the lights off this screen looks brilliant. I have not yet completed buildout of the room, so walls are white, there's significant light leakage from the windows, and there is a good amount of light coming in from the surrounding rooms. Watching a movie or playing a game during the day is still very clear, but I notice a lower level of vibrancy to the colors compared to at night.

In the evening (and I can only imagine even better when I actually get the walls and ceiling painted correctly) the colors pop well, and it's just like being in a theater.

There have been no issues with the screen - it was in perfect condition when it arrived (a very long box!), and although I don't retract it often (we just leave it down), there seem to be no issues when I do. The color is even and shows no weirdness (hot spotting, texturing, sheen).

All in all, I love the screen.

Glad that you are satisfied with the EluneVision screen! Of course, there is not a setup in the world that will work as well with ambient light present in a room as it would without ambient light - nevertheless, it's good to hear that you're thoroughly enjoying the picture you are getting and are loving your home theater thus far!

Milosh
post #1072 of 1236
Does anyone have a PureBright version of this screen? If so, what do you think?

I ordered samples of the PureBright and Reference 4k, but I won't be able to actually project anything onto them until our house is finished by the end of the year. They wouldn't let me get a sample of the Cinema-Pro Vivd White 2.4 (even though I paid $45 for the other 2 samples). I'm a little curious as to how the PureBright vs Cinema-Pro Vivid White vs Da-lite High Power would compare.
post #1073 of 1236
Is it possible to hang this screen from the ceiling? My ceiling is angled so I do not have a flat surface to mount on and was hoping to use some eye hooks of sorts to mount the screen to.
post #1074 of 1236
Yes, the screens are able to hang from both the ceiling and the wall.
post #1075 of 1236
Has anyone ever been able to get a sample of the PureBright 2.4 material? I emailed back and forth with Dave several times in June, resulting in nothing being available, but no follow up. I emailed him again this evening....

Is this a unique material to EluneVision or is it the same as the DaLite 2.4 HP or Draper 2.9 screen? I see the question was asked before but not addressed.
post #1076 of 1236
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Has anyone ever been able to get a sample of the PureBright 2.4 material? I emailed back and forth with Dave several times in June, resulting in nothing being available, but no follow up. I emailed him again this evening....

Is this a unique material to EluneVision or is it the same as the DaLite 2.4 HP or Draper 2.9 screen? I see the question was asked before but not addressed.
I recently received a PureBright 4k 240 sample a Dalite High Power 2.4 sample.
They are very similar, and the HP sample was smaller, which may have affected my impression, but here it is:
I liked the PB a little better.
All the qualities were very similar, but the PB had a bit better contrast and color in my room which still has light walls.
The PB is slightly darker when not lit, so that may be what did it.
The PB also had less texture, but I couldn't see texture on either from normal viewing distances.
No sparkle or hotspotting on either.

Edit: Upon closer examination, the EVPB and DLHP appear identical. I didn't have the DLHP taped perfectly flat, and I think that caused the small difference.
Edited by rcohen - 10/17/13 at 1:12pm
post #1077 of 1236
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Has anyone ever been able to get a sample of the PureBright 2.4 material? I emailed back and forth with Dave several times in June, resulting in nothing being available, but no follow up. I emailed him again this evening....

Is this a unique material to EluneVision or is it the same as the DaLite 2.4 HP or Draper 2.9 screen? I see the question was asked before but not addressed.

I got samples of the PureBright and Reference for $45 shipped.
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Originally Posted by rcohen View Post

I recently received a PureBright 4k 240 sample a Dalite High Power 2.4 sample.
They are very similar, and the HP sample was smaller, which may have affected my impression, but here it is:
I liked the PB a little better.
All the qualities were very similar, but the PB had a bit better contrast and color in my room which still has light walls.
The PB is slightly darker when not lit, so that may be what did it.
The PB also had less texture, but I couldn't see texture on either from normal viewing distances.
No sparkle or hotspotting on either.

Did you end up buying the screen?
post #1078 of 1236
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Originally Posted by nickoakdl View Post

I got samples of the PureBright and Reference for $45 shipped.
Did you end up buying the screen?

They call the material "Reference PureBright" on their website - you're making it sound like they are two different materials...are they?
post #1079 of 1236
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Originally Posted by rcohen View Post

I recently received a PureBright 4k 240 sample a Dalite High Power 2.4 sample.
They are very similar, and the HP sample was smaller, which may have affected my impression, but here it is:
I liked the PB a little better.
All the qualities were very similar, but the PB had a bit better contrast and color in my room which still has light walls.
The PB is slightly darker when not lit, so that may be what did it.
The PB also had less texture, but I couldn't see texture on either from normal viewing distances.
No sparkle or hotspotting on either.


Thanks - I wish they would contact me for a sample.

I have the HP 2.4 now, but have some of the uneven texture referenced a few pages back by rickavmaniac I think (the photos make it worse than it is in reality, but there is some grainy unevenness)

I'd like a 18 or 24" square sample to compare...
post #1080 of 1236
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

They call the material "Reference PureBright" on their website - you're making it sound like they are two different materials...are they?

I should say I got the Reference PureBright and the Reference Studio.
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