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post #301 of 1235
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Originally Posted by tiddler View Post


Now I have to decide if the remote matters to me or do I drill a hole in my valance. The screen has a 12v trigger but that means I would have to turn the projector off just to raise the screen to get at my equipment. That will not be ver good either. If the switch still works with the 12v trigger setup that would be ok but I doubt it.

The documentation is a couple of photo copied sheets.

You can get the full manual at a link under the Optoma site. See my earlier posting.

Both the switch and the 12v trigger can be used i.e. manually lower the screen while the projector is off.

Try mounting the screen in the valance, the IR sensor is pretty good. I have my screen recessed in the ceiling with a gap of a couple of inches, the IR sensor still works.

The other option is an IR extender mounted under the valance.

Good Luck
post #302 of 1235
The price was $385 plus $50 shipping. With taxes included it came to just under $500. It arrived 48 hrs after I ordered it.

The packaging was adequate and in reasonably good shape. The was one tare in the box flap near where tape was wrapped around it. Probably someone had slipped their fingers under the flap to lift it and it tore.



Inside the box there was another box made of softer but thicker corrugated cardboard. The screen was inside a plastic bag as was all the cables and remote.

The case was a an attractive white with white wiring. My wife commented that it looked much nicer than the original black EluneVision screen casings with black wires. She pointed out that it could have been mounted to the ceiling and the conduit I used to run the wires up to my fancy screen valance could have just extended over to the end of the screen. Here is my screen valance to hide the older ugly black screen.



You can see the stick on conduit running up the wall beside the back door.

The screen surface was a much darker gray than my painted screen. It was however quite good at producing whites and deep blacks.





The gain of this screen is achieved through the use of sheen and texture. Here are some close up shots of the surface with white light projected on it.



There were some problems with this screen and therefore I returned it. Returning it was easy. I sent an email message indicating I was not satisfied with the screen and wanted to return it. EastPorters replied within a day with the shipping address and a Purolator account number to use to return it. No questions asked. I simply took it to the local Purolator depot and used the account number to return it. I was told that as soon as they received the screen EastPorters would credit my credit card account. I sent it back Wednesday and I will check to see if my account has been credited on Monday. When the refund goes through I will be able to complete this review.
post #303 of 1235
Tiddler, care to share what was wrong with the screen?

I'm just about to buy a 106" EluneVision High Definition Vivid Pro-Cinema Grey Fixed Frame Screen - 16:9 (1.8 gain) to be used with a Optoma HD80.

I find this screen to fit perfectly in my budget. I just want to make sure the quality is good.

Thanks in advance.
post #304 of 1235
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Originally Posted by CaCa View Post

Tiddler, care to share what was wrong with the screen?

I'm just about to buy a 106" EluneVision High Definition Vivid Pro-Cinema Grey Fixed Frame Screen - 16:9 (1.8 gain) to be used with a Optoma HD80.

I find this screen to fit perfectly in my budget. I just want to make sure the quality is good.

Thanks in advance.

CaCa,
I will be very interested in seeing how the 1.8 gain reacts with your H 80 as I am waiting until Christmas to get the H 80. Who did you end up getting it from ?
I received a basic white ( on sale ) and also a gray 1.1 gain pulldown screen from Eastporters to see how they will get along with the H 80. I have an ambient light problem also, so hopefully we shall gain a bit of insight from these two.
A previous thread mentioned sparklies with the 1.8 so it scared me away. Some talk HiPower and some talk the Da lite HCCV which is rough if it is not the best choice for your application but you have to live with it.
Living in Canada does not help from a supply angle for sure.
post #305 of 1235
I just purchased a 135" EluneVision High Definition Vivid Pro-Cinema White Fixed Frame Screen. I have not got around to putting it up, but what I can tell it looks very nice and was packaged well. Now to find time to get that thing together and put it up.............Brian
post #306 of 1235
First post here. I have a Panny AE2000U just received! and I have replaced a Proxima LX2. I have been projecting onto a 5'7''x10' about 137" diag matte painted wall. My throw is 17'7" and the lens is about 7" (ceiling mounted)below the top of the projection area. The room itself is 13x18 total light controlled. Viewing distance is set at 14'

I am considering the 16:9 120" white with 2.4 gain or the 106' I do lots of movies and the kids do tons of xbox. A full 137" diag image is way to overwhelming at 14' any recomendations for size?

Will the 2.4 blow us out of the water with brightness or will it just really pop the image? The panny is LCD w/16000:1 contrast so blacks are not an issue.

I have looked at Vutec and just about fell out with the cost and the shipping. Carada is a second choice but it'll be close to 300.00 more for the same size.

I have literally read every post in here this am and I am ready to make the jump. This sounds like a great product, but it would be nice to hear from those who have had these for a while and how they are holding up.

Thanks
post #307 of 1235
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Originally Posted by chasrb View Post

First post here. I have a Panny AE2000U just received! and I have replaced a Proxima LX2. I have been projecting onto a 5'7''x10' about 137" diag matte painted wall. My throw is 17'7" and the lens is about 7" (ceiling mounted)below the top of the projection area. The room itself is 13x18 total light controlled. Viewing distance is set at 14'

I am considering the 16:9 120" white with 2.4 gain or the 106' I do lots of movies and the kids do tons of xbox. A full 137" diag image is way to overwhelming at 14' any recomendations for size?

Will the 2.4 blow us out of the water with brightness or will it just really pop the image? The panny is LCD w/16000:1 contrast so blacks are not an issue.

I have looked at Vutec and just about fell out with the cost and the shipping. Carada is a second choice but it'll be close to 300.00 more for the same size.

I have literally read every post in here this am and I am ready to make the jump. This sounds like a great product, but it would be nice to hear from those who have had these for a while and how they are holding up.

Thanks

Do you have any ambient light when the kids are playing games?

What color are the walls and ceiling?

Why not paint the with a DIY Screen paint? At least give it a try before dropping hundreds on a screen.
post #308 of 1235
I have dim-able cans in the ceiling. The walls are a deep moss green and the ceiling is 2x4 white drop. I have considered painting them black, just have not gotten around to it. As for the paint I looked at the Aussie Pearl, but did nothing yet.

I used ceiling white paint for the existing display area, it is marginal probabl close to a negative gain on it. If the paint could give a 1.2 to 1.4 gain and come close to a screen res, I am all over that.
post #309 of 1235
hello chasrb, I have the ae2000 ceilling mounted at about 12" from the ceiling bringing it about 6" below top of screen. The screen is 135" 2.4 gain white screen from them(eastporters, elunevision) and I love it. I have a dedicated theater but the walls are dark grey and a black ceiling. I sit about the same distance to the screen. I had some freinds and family over this weekend for the games and they all were blown away, saying it looked like a huge flat panel. I don't think you would be disapointed in the screen, but if I were you and everything is ok with the wife, I would paint the ceiling black. good luck on your choice.
post #310 of 1235
seven lust thanks for the reply, the ceiling is a next step to paint. I thought about the iSky fiber optics but way to expensive. Did you spray or roll your ceiling? What are the dimentions of your HT?

I am seriously thinking of moving the AE2000u in front of the seating area about 10-12 ft from the screen and shoot a 120" from there. the seating will still be at 14'.


I set marks for the different aspects tonight 2:35 1:85 and 16:9, it seems that most of the SD I have are 2:35 or 2:39. I did it using my LX2, but it has a 4:3 and 16:9 setting on it so it I left it on 1:78 (16:9) the 1:85 shrank up like a swimmer in the English Channel in winter. I put it back to 4:3 and it shot a nice letter box.

How will the Panny do, I have not set it up yet.

thanks
post #311 of 1235
I've got the 120" 2.4 gain screen & like it. I had painted a 120" screen with Behr Quietude, a light grey, & top-coated with flat poly. The Elunevision is much brighter.
My pj, a Hitachi PJ-TX100, is mounted about 6-8" above the top of the screen. Beacuse of this, the picture is brighter when standing. A lower gain screen may have been a better choice for me.
I had a hard time getting it flat. I tried not tightening it too much, but that left waves. After tightening it enough to remove the waves, the corners don't lay perfectly flat. It's not a big deal, though.
If you get one & are going to assemble it on carpet, make sure to put down a couple sheets. I didn't & the flocking on the frame left blacks streaks in my carpet.
post #312 of 1235
hey topher when I pulled tension on mine I tightened the screws just a little working my way around the screen a little at a time just enough to get it to lay flat,but still a little waves. then I criss crossed to get the waves out. no waves now and I love it. Thats wierd you have a little drop off when sitting down but I guess it is because your projector is a little higher. I get no drop off, no matter what angel I am at in the room sitting or standing. These are some pics of the screen. still a work in progress. Love the screen.
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post #313 of 1235
Screen looks great even with the projector off! I really like that football shot. Very bright and punchy. Reminds me of my Da-Lite High Power screen.

What screen would you guys recommend for a room with all the walls, ceiling, trim and doors painted black and two windows with dark Honeycomb Cellular Blackout Shades set in channels/tracks (to block out the perimeter light)? Carpet will be a medium beige.

I've always owned DLP projectors mounted about 6'3" above the floor on the wall. With the High Power screens (2.8 gain) the images really pop, even with the projector up that high. So, I'm wondering what the 2.4 gain screen might look like with the projector on a back shelf about 60" high. I've never had a dark room like this before but this is the way it's going to be when I move to the new place in April. Presently we have mid-toned green walls and slightly lighter ceiling and the back wall is black.

So will the new black room be okay with the 2.4 gain screen? I am concerned that since I'll be making use of most of the screen's gain due to the shelf mounting, the images may be too bright in that dark a room. Should I go with the screen but have some backlighting on or some sconces turned on and dimmed low in the room?

Any ideas would be appreciated. Also, my wife thinks that drop screens are better than fixed due to aesthetic considerations. I say, if you've got a wall and you aren't using a TV there, then use it for a fixed frame screen. She'd like to have pictures for instance on the wall when the projector isn't in use. This is not an unreasonable request but I'd finally like to have a screen that I won't see wrinkles on. But then again, I worry about a fixed frame screen being damaged by housecleaners or anybody who might accidentally rub up against it.

What to do?

Wayne
post #314 of 1235
I think that the 2.4 gain will be fine with the black walls and shelf mounted. I have the 2.4 with black walls and I love picture on this screen. It is not dim at all even at 135". The drop down is nice for the cool factor that it drops down , but really after you see how nice a fixed frame screen looks in person even without a picture on it, I think she would say different. My wife did. As for the house cleaners just tell them do not touch the screen or it will leave a finger print from the oils on your skin that you cannot clean off. Thats what I have told all the kids that come over and it has worked so far...to my surprise. Anyhow I say get the screen and try it out, thats really what you have to do, they have a return policy if it does not work for you. I think you will be happy with it.
post #315 of 1235
Thanks a lot for that opinion. It's appreciated, especially from someone who already has a similar room and the same screen.

I know that the gain between this screen at 2.4 and Da-Lite's High Power at
2.8 is basically negligible. Once you get up that high I doubt that .4 gain is going to make much difference.

I suspect that your viewing angle is better than the High Power's 25 degrees. I'm also wondering about hot spotting and sparkles. Sometimes I see the odd twinkle or sparkle on the screen that doesn't stay. I'm hoping that light illumination is even also.

Wayne
post #316 of 1235
so far so good with mine. I too was very worried about the sparkles, hot spoting, light droping off at the sides or from corner viewing, But I have found that it is pretty uniform. I am not certain how to measure the viewing cone but on their web page it says 100 degrees. I was pretty skeptical of this when I made my purchase, but what ever the veiwing cone is I like it for this set up. MY room is only about 15 1/2 ft wide and if I sit all the way to wall on either side I get the same brightness. I it could be that the screen is pretty maxed out for this room size. I get zero hotspotting and I have yet to see a sparkle. Although, with light shinning on the screen with out a picture you see thousands of them, like it was dusted with glitter . I try not to look for them because once I see it every movie I watch from there on out I will be looking for them insted of just enjoying the movie like I do now.
post #317 of 1235
Very good! This is sounding more and more the way to go all the time. I mean, at the price they're quoting it's a steal.

One more question seven lust, (famous last words-one more question LOL), do you find that the closer to the lens you put your head, the brighter the image on screen appears? This is true retro-reflectivity and is exactly the way that the Da-Lite High Power screens work.

If this is the case with your screen, then my decision to shelf mount just behind the viewing couch at about 60" up from the floor should make me want to get out the sunglasses!

Wayne
post #318 of 1235
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with mine, too. It allows me to turn the lights up & still get a pretty good picture. The colours pop a bit more now too.
Before I bought it, I emailed them & asked if I could return it if it didn't improve the picture very much. They said that they can't take returns just because the improvement's not what you had hoped for.
post #319 of 1235
I had to return my first wife because the improvement wasn't what I was hoping for.

Wayne
post #320 of 1235
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post

I had to return my first wife because the improvement wasn't what I was hoping for.

Wayne

Ya gotta watch out for the restocking fee.
post #321 of 1235
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Originally Posted by Topher View Post

Ya gotta watch out for the restocking fee.

Ain't that the truth!

Wayne
post #322 of 1235
Hi,

Does anyone have an opinion on which screen is better between the Dalite hi power and the 2.4 gain Elunevision? I have a sharp z12000 and require a pull down or electric screen. My main concerns are screen texture and waves. I can get the electric Elunevision for close to the same price as a Model C hi power. They are both retro reflective which is what I need for my shelf mount. I might assume the Dalite will be better made and less likely to form waves because of the larger roller.
post #323 of 1235
That would be great! Also, if you can, please add a screen shot or two.

Wayne
post #324 of 1235
I take it these high gain screens are retroreflective (back to the source) like the Dailite Highpower, thus making them better used for table-top projection--am I right? That said, if mounted on the ceiling, you would get about 1.4 gain at a sitting angle (about midway from ceiling to floor). So keep that in mind.
post #325 of 1235
Hi. I presently have a Sony HS-20 and DIY Behr Silverscreen setup. I am looking to upgrade to the Epson 1080UB (or maybe the Panasonic AE2000) and figure I should also upgrade the screen to take full advantage. My room is a follows:

12' x 20'
Light controlled. Zero ambient.
Walls - half black, half bark blue
Ceiling - Taupe

My existing 1.78 96" diagonal screen is between 2 pillars (which contain my speakers and components) so I have approx. 8 ft width to work with. Unfortunately, the columns (pillars) are medium oak and reflect light badly so I am thinking I will cover them with light absorbing material (just not sure what or how yet - suggestions???). Presently my ceiling mount is 13.5 ft from screen but I could easily go anywhere from 12-18 ft ceiling mounted or 18-19' shelf mounted if necessary.

I would appreciate any recommendations on elunevision screen/mount combo for these new projectors. I am also seriously considering Carada because of the flexibility they offer in screen sizes. (I will not down-size to 92").
post #326 of 1235
I just ordered the 1.8 gain gray screen yesterday for use with a ceiling mount PLV-Z4. I understand that this screen is retro-reflective but through a lot of anecdotal evidence, I see people using this screen or the Optoma Graywolf (also 1.8 gain and retro-reflective) with ceiling mount PJs with very good results.

Any way, what is the average delivery time? My order probably won't get processed until today but I'm curious what the odds are that I'd have the screen by this weekend.
post #327 of 1235
I just purchased this screen, it arrived although the installer has not came yet.

Its a 92 inch electric high gain screen 2.4. Coming from a carada brilliant white and am very happy. I needed to move to electric due to the plasma/projector combination.

Much more light, coming from a plasma and pioneer kuro, I wanted more brightness and punch and this helped for sure.

Off axis viewing is not bad at all, I was expecting it to look alot dimmer, moving to the side does dim the image a bit, but until your quite a way off you dont notice it dimming. I probably wont having seating far enough acess to make a big drop.

Very happy with the screen. Had no problems so far.
post #328 of 1235
Yes, a high gain screen like this coupled with a BenQ W5000 is a winning combination.

I have a 2.8 gain Da-Lite High Power manual 106" screen and you really need to go beyond matte white these days in my opinion.

Wayne
post #329 of 1235
I have a PLV-Z3 projector in a very dark (windows all blocked) basement with dark olive green walls, white ceiling and gray carpet. I think I'd like to go with the EluneVision 1.8 gain gray fixed frame screen, but I'd like some input from you guys to see if this would be a good screen/projector combination. TIA
post #330 of 1235
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Originally Posted by Charles J P View Post

I just ordered the 1.8 gain gray screen yesterday for use with a ceiling mount PLV-Z4. I understand that this screen is retro-reflective but through a lot of anecdotal evidence, I see people using this screen or the Optoma Graywolf (also 1.8 gain and retro-reflective) with ceiling mount PJs with very good results.
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Can any owner here on the forum confirm for certain if the Vivid Gray and Vivid White screens are actually retro-reflective or are they actually angular-reflective?
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