EluneVision screens - Page 18

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http://www.eastporters.com/estore/cart.php?page=index

Thanks
Dave

Looks like it's only available through the Canadian portion of the site. Any word on pricing or availability for the US?

Edit: Received an email stating that ordering is currently available via phone only at the moment. Thanks!

So I am fortunately enough to be about ~1hr away from EastPorters. I swung by and checked out the new reference screen.

Guys, you have to see this to believe this, the brightness is pretty even pretty much at all angles, even when I was almost parallel to the wall, i could still see the image very clearly. The screen itself is also completely smooth, almost the same as the Steward Studiotek 100, but the studiotek 100 had more texture than this. IT reminds me of a clean whiteboard.

The image is much better and I prefer this over the 1.8Gray.

I've got mine on order and can't wait to get it.

Thanks Dave for showing me all the different screens, helped a lot in my decision.

um........................

What gain is the material you are talking about?

Edit: never mind 1.0

Yu have any experience with the high power screen?

I compared it to the 1.8 gain screen that was there, it was just a small test piece, not the whole screen, but nevertheless, I found that it was too sensitive to the seating position. The projector was probably about 14-15' away from the screen and I found that I had to be within 2 feet from the projector (perpendicular distance) to notice the effects of the gain, around 2 feet, it had similar gain to the 1.0 reference screen and beyond 2 feet, the reference screen was brighter... so felt that it wouldn't be a good fit for my setup (projector will be ceiling mounted and I would be 4' away from the projector (perpendicular distance).

I was also able to make out the texture of the 1.8 gain material while watching hockey as the camera panned across the ice. The texture isn't bad, but I noticed it.

Hey guys,

Over the last few weeks, we've managed to make converts out of some high end Home Theater installers with our Reference Tab-Tensioned screens (official launch later this month) and Reference Fixed screens. The good news for all the people looking to purchase screens is that I've seen some of their previous work, so their upcoming installations should be very nice additions to the EluneVision website gallery over the upcoming weeks/months.

Hopefully it'll give people a bit of a context to the screens with furniture in a room, to add to the closeups and various photos of the screen that we have and will will be posting on the website.

Happy holidays

Milosh

Here’s my first impressions of the EluneVision Reference Studio Fixed Frame 108" Screen that I just got this week!

Assembly was a breeze, it only took about an hour to unpack it and put it together, with very few tools required. It comes very well packaged so probably 20 mins of that hour was spent unpacking it alone. The most difficult part was attaching the screen on to the mounting posts. It certainly wasn’t that hard and the screen material is quite flexible and stretches out rather easily once you realize it is capable of it.

I must say it looks stunning with the 5” velour frame. Mounted on the wall it gives it a very distinct look. My walls are a flat light chocolate color so it really contrasts them nicely. Overall it looks very professional and I think it would be perfect for any high end home theater.

The picture quality is very impressive from the Reference Studio 100 material. It shows no texture or grain whatsoever. Screen texture is something I find very objectionable so a smooth screen is a must for me. To give you a sense of how good it is, it really seems to add greater depth to the picture so that the screen almost disappears and gives you a real sense of emersion and dimensionality. Even on light colored scenes or sports like golf or hockey nothing is noticeable. There are no sparkles at all, light gets diffused perfectly no matter what angle you are viewing from which is rather cool. When you walk into my basement you come in almost completely parallel to the wall the screen is mounted on yet the image is still bright and clearly visible, this is really cool.

The image is very sharp and shows great contrast, the colors are amazing. I’m very impressed with the HD content on Bluray and satellite that I have watched so far. Movies and sports both look great on satellite. I watched some football on Thursday night and it was excellent, the colors looked fantastic.

I think spending a little more to get this screen is a must if you have a 1080p projector. It’s worth the extra money to get such an impressive image quality out of your projector.

My current setup is an Epson 8700UB mounted at 17.5’ with seating at 12’. I will be moving the projector to 12’ very soon to improve light output.

Thanks for the review! I just bought the same setup with the 100" reference screen looking really forward to seeing it in action. Thanks for the info on mounting I was going to go about 15' but sounds like I should move it forward a couple

I also want to mention that the service at Eastporters is top notch. They were super easy to deal with and man do they ship fast!

i'm at home today anxiously awaiting the delivery of my screen...

can't wait!

Now if only my monoprice order would arrive too, i need my hdmi cables!

what size did you get?

i got the 115"... screen is all assembled but i had a hard time mounting it to the wall, it's hard just to mount it with 1 person so I'm going to have to wait until tmw to get a 2nd hand...

Just got my screen today, blazing fast shipping!

so i finally mounted the screen and had a chance to test it out. Source was from Xbox 360 or an Acer media pc, all hdmi via my Onkyo 807 to an Epson 8350. Epson was on natural mode in normal brightness.

My general thoughts, the screen is awesome, absolutely no texturing at all (see my closeup pics). Even when I'm 2" inches in front of the screen, it looks absolutely white, it's that uniform.

The off axis response is amazing, I can literally put my head up against the wall and look across the screen and still get almost the same brightness.

Because of the uniform light distribution (lambtian surface ?) it is sensitive to ambient light, so this would only work in a light controlled room. During the day with only little ambient light, the picture quality does suffer.

I would whole heartly recommend this for those in a light controlled room looking for a uniform response.

I would recommend gray/silver screens to those that have ambient light in their rooms and want better blacks, and would only recommend high gain screens 1.8+ IF ambient light is even stronger/cannot be controlled AND projector and seating position is very close together.

Here are my pics taken with a Fuji F30, no flash on tripod on aperature priority mode:

Picture on wall, zoomed out.

F2.83 @1/6s

Picture on screen, zoomed out.

F2.83 @1/14s (notice I'm almost a full stop away from above, picture contrast is a lot better too)

Picture on wall, zoomed in.

F3.73 @1/4s

Picture on screen, zoomed in.

F3.73 @1/11s (almost 1.5 stops brighter than wall)

Picture on screen, 60 degrees off axis.


75degrees off axis.


screen material closeup


another screen material closeup


my home theatre shot during the day with a lot of ambient light

Really interested to hear from people who get the new tab-tensioned screens. My wife and I are building a new home (move in July 2011) and want to do a flat-panel TV on the wall for casual/daytime viewing plus a drop-down screen for serious movie watching. I'd love to be able to get a tab-tensioned setup for a reasonable price, but want to hear more user's experiences.

Part of me wishes I didn't pull the trigger on this one. I told them I don't like watching TV in the dark and they still said this is the best one for me Guess I will need to get used to sitting in the dark.

Is the picture as bad as the picture you posted in real life or did your camera make it a bit worse. Looks really really bad in light.

Hi all
I have the 2.35:1 eluevision fixed screen for my 2.25:! viewing movies. I have an ae4000u and so far so good.
I decided to get a 16x9 screen for the rest of the dvds and 16x9 movies so got the 92" one for the size of my room.
I got the pull down version. Minus the smell, (will it ever go away),
i notice one issue. It came all setup in box. When i pull it down from ceiling , there is a v shaped wave left and right that comes down the center of the pull handle. It's noticeable at first and i played some blurays like planet earth and saw that it didn't really affect it but i could see the waves in bright scenes.
I'm reading the manual and it said something about removing the bottom bar and re tightening the screen etc..but just wondering if any one else had similar issues and their solutions.

I just picked up a 120" 2.4 gain white pull down on Dec 22nd and have exactly same issue as yours. It's not very noticeable when projector is on though. Once movie is over, lights back on, everyone in room will notice the V shape wave. I'm kind of embarrassed and have a hard time to explain to my guests why a brand new screen has such a big V wave on it.

Everything else is wonderful. I'm using eco/cinema mode and movies on screen are much more punchier than they are on my flat wall.

I'd be very thankful for any solutions.

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TWGG.....
Comment for your above pic
You mentioned the above was with some ambient light...

For a pic thats not alot of ambient light,
that pic is really washed out..

Well Im only using that screen for 16x9 stuff majority is been viewed on my fixed screen
I might rig something up or undo the bottom bar and re tighten the screen to it

For a pic thats not alot of ambient light,
that pic is really washed out..[/quote]

Is this pic taken with the same lumen output as the ones in the dark or is it with the projector set to it's maximum light output?

Is this pic taken with the same lumen output as the ones in the dark or is it with the projector set to it's maximum light output?[/quote]

Just so no one gets confused i was asking that above question to TWGG...
Just to make sure we are on the same page...

Just to clarify, that last picture is with ALL of my blinds open during the daytime, so it was VERY bright in the room.

Furthermore, the projector was in cinema mode, so only outputting around 500 lumens, when the max mode I can put out over 1000 lumens, so it wasn't in max mode.

I should probably remove that picture so that people don't get the wrong impression, but I'll leave it in here for now as long as people don't get misunderstood.

Honestly, if you don't like watching TV in the dark or very little light, a projector is not for you. There are ways to crank up the brightness, such as running the projector in high output mode, but the colours won't be as accurate AND a high gain screen like a 2.4 or 1.8 gain screen will help BUT you will have to sit perfectly in the sweet spot AND your projector will have to be very close to where you sit.

You can try to get Eastporters to swap out your reference screen with the 1.8 gain screen, but personally having seen the 1.8, and the tradeoffs with a retroreflective screen (common to almost all high gain screens), I wouldn't use one.

Totally disagree with your last paragraph Statement.,
I have a Epson 9700 and SI BlackDiamond .8 Gain Screen
and we watch most media with full Lights On...
And my Projector is in Eco Mode....
Have alot of pics posted over at the Epson 9700 THread if you want to see some screen shots....
Also have screen shots over at the SI Screen THread..
...
When i have sports on or video games with lights on my Screen looks and
has better colours than Most LCD Flat Panels....

my last paragraph was directed at wpgcabby's comment.

The reference screen has a gain of 1.0 and based on my experience and you can see the different angle shots, has very uniform light response. With ambient light and my projector (Epson 8350) in either natural/living room/dynamic mode, the light output is perfectly fine for me.

i've removed the picture since its seemed to have caused confusion, it was meant to showcase the setup, not the picture quality as I had a lot of light coming into the room (blinds fully open) during the daytime.

Thanks for the clarification. Looking at your pic it didn't seem that bright in your room so I was concerned. Since your projector is in low light mode I'm sure that my 8700ub will be fine when I set it up tomorrow!

Assembled and installed my screen last night. Was pretty easy to put together, hanging it straight on the wall well thats another story lol Going to have another go at it today, hopefully I can get it straight!

Picking up the projector in a couple hours, really excited

i had trouble hanging the screen on the wall too..

what worked for me is to not put the screws all the way into the wall, leave a bit out, then use some chairs and books to prop up the screen to the right height, then one by one align the hangers to the screw on the wall...

Since i am an Epson *ealer would love to see some screen shots of the 8700 in action....