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post #61 of 1240
yeah thanks for the pics. What size is that and is it bright enough?
post #62 of 1240
Amazing pictures, kej2u. Thanks for the detailed photos of the setup and design of the screen.

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Originally Posted by kej2u View Post

The only downer is the black, painted aluminum doesn't do a great job of light absorption, since it isn't draped in black cloth. This is a non-issue for me as I have my image mapped almost perfectly to end where the screen ends. The screen is a true 16:9 screen.

How obvious is the light absorption? If you have experience, how does it compare to a painted black wood frame? Or, in general, is it obvious in a) a dark room; b) a dimly lit room; or c) a fully lit room?

Thanks again.
post #63 of 1240
I recently purchased a tw600 from eastporters and decided to go with the blackout screen first to figure out what screen size would do well in my place. So now I am looking at going with a 120in fixed frame and I was wondering how heavy these screens were. Mainly wondering this because right now I am renting an apartment, so I cant really tear up the the walls too much.

Anyone have any experience hanging things this heavy without tearing up walls or anything like that?

btw, highly recommend the tw600 for anyone thinking about it
post #64 of 1240
ezelkow1 ,If memory serves the screen weighs around 60 pounds ( like I said, thats just memory from looking at their website) but it says it comes with mounting hardware. I would try to get it into the studs if possible, if that is not possible, I would almost suggest running a 1x4 along the wall where the screen will be, attach it to as many studs as you can and then attach the screen to the lumber. Also, if you do this, I highly reccomend you run a 1 x 4 along the bottom of the screen as well so it will hang flush.
post #65 of 1240
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Originally Posted by Chadci View Post

What is the size of your new screen?

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Originally Posted by vorlen View Post

What size is that and is it bright enough?

134" Fixed Frame Hi-Def Grey
Yes, it is very bright in the room. The pictures above don't do it justice. I haven't figured out that digital camera yet. The blacks (contrast) is much better since I switched from the white blackout cloth option to the grey screen.

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Originally Posted by Dragon Reborn View Post

How obvious is the light absorption? If you have experience, how does it compare to a painted black wood frame? Or, in general, is it obvious in a) a dark room; b) a dimly lit room; or c) a fully lit room?

I have never had a painted black wood frame to compare it to. In my room, it is so dark that the overspill onto the frame is mostly hidden. It is a simple aluminum frame painted black and a greyish black at that. It looks very sleek and professional but was clearly not designed to eat light. I suppose you could rig the front with fabric, but it's just not enough of an issue for me as I really have to stare at the edges to see it -- and most of the time, I'm watching the movie instead!

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I was wondering how heavy these screens were. Mainly wondering this because right now I am renting an apartment, so I cant really tear up the the walls too much.

Mine felt like it was around 60 pounds. Had to have help hanging it as the two top corner brackets simply slide over and slot onto two dry-wall anchored screws. I lifted my end and the wife lifted the other (go honey!) and we hung it fairly easy. I went ahead and purchased 2 toggle screws frome Home Depot as opposed to using the cheap drywall anchor screws that come with the unit.

Just got my new carpet and home theater seating in last night. Click on my signature to see the new look!
post #66 of 1240
Just ordered my 92" fixed frame. Going to pair it with an Optoma HD72.

I wish I could have ordered a 100" screen. The choice between 92" and 106" is too big a gap, but the size of the 92" screen was my only option in my HT.

I'll post pics next week.
post #67 of 1240
Let me know how the 92 " turns out Im going to order it in 2 weeks....
post #68 of 1240
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Originally Posted by Dragon Reborn View Post

Just ordered my 92" fixed frame. Going to pair it with an Optoma HD72.

I wish I could have ordered a 100" screen. The choice between 92" and 106" is too big a gap, but the size of the 92" screen was my only option in my HT.

I'll post pics next week.

I hear you. I really would like to get a hold of an inexpensive screen like the EluneVision in a 100" size. And it looks like the 106" EluneVision only comes in gray.
post #69 of 1240
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Originally Posted by mde71 View Post

I hear you. I really would like to get a hold of an inexpensive screen like the EluneVision in a 100" size. And it looks like the 106" EluneVision only comes in gray.

Ah well, there's almost always a "catch" when getting a good deal. A 100" Carada screen, for example, would have fit PERFECTLY in my shadow box, but at a cost of over $700 more. I'll settle for the smaller screen with a 5" gap to each side wall.

Hopefully, I'll get it set up this week. The projector and mount are also on their way.
post #70 of 1240
I received my 92" fixed frame screen yesterday and assembled it last night.

First impressions: man, this box is long. It was able to fit in my car which only has a centre arm-rest pass-through in the back seat. I think that's when it first hit me how big my screen will be. (my first pj screen ever, can you tell?)

Overall weight is about 30-35 lbs for mine. As kej2u pointed out, the frame is aluminum which makes it quite lightweight, but it is definitely NOT black. It is dark grey and has a slightly shiny rather than matte surface. I don't think it would easily accommodate any customization via a black velvet wrap to create a totally black frame. Anyways, not a real surprise since kej2u already posted great assembly pics.

Upon close examination, my screen had a MINOR light brown smudge/streak, about 1" long and 1/8th" wide. It is so faint that I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't been looking at it from 1' away during assembly. It is not viewable under room lighting from more than a couple feet away. If it is viewable under a white projector light, then I'll call Eastporters to see what they say. I want to stress, that is the only imperfection I've noticed and I don't think it will be noticeable under normal (ie. > 1' viewing distance) circumstances. In any event, I expect my 3 year old to do much worse in coming weeks. [the five stages of grief ... ]

Assembly took about half an hour. Would have been less if I hadn't forgot to insert the bolts into the frame in the very first step!

At first, I thought they had shipped the wrong size screen as it was several inches too short to reach the frame edges. I was wary of pulling the screen too hard, thinking it might rip. After some pulling, I came to realize what tension really is. The screen material is a lot more stretchy than I had anticipated (remember, this is my first pj and screen). Once I had used my limited muscle power, I was able to create a very taut and wrinkle-free surface. The tension clips work perfectly and feel secure.

Mounting plates are positioned at the top 2 corners only which means I will need drywall anchors. The 2 drywall anchors that are included are quite lame.

Overall, a fairly straight-forward assembly, although the instructions aren't very good. Think of it this way: better than no instructions but not as good as Ikea (and I'm not saying the Ikea always has easy instructions).

So, overall it probably SHOULD have taken about 15 minutes to assemble unless you're a guy like me and don't ask for directions.

Now, I just have to figure out how to mount this onto the wall. First off, I have to install my projector and mount (today?) and see exactly where the image will be projected. Then I have to decide if I want to shim out the top of the screen so that it angles downward slightly (which may be preferrable due to the high offset of the Optoma HD72 and my low ceiling to avoid digital keystoning). If I mount it flush with the wall, I may pick up some toggle screws as kej2u did. My main concern is that I thought toggle screws were better for ceiling drywall installation rather than walls??? Another option would be those metal drywall anchors that spread out like a mushroom behind the wall (I forget what those are called).

Anyways, I can't do much until I get the pj installed, so I will post pics when that's done.
post #71 of 1240
I also received my 92" screen last night and it took me about 45 minutes to assemble. I only had 21 of the 24 hangers and one of the L brackets was just too thick and wouldn't fit inside the frame. I ended up taking a sander to it and it fit just perfect after that.

The frame is a bit reflective and not really a nice absorbant black. It is a nice frame though, looks pretty classy.

Shipping took 6 days which is definately impressive. They use Purolator shipping and if you need a tracking # you will have to call them.

Overall I'm happy with it. Very very nice looks but obviously not quite the performance you'll get out of higher priced screens.
post #72 of 1240
well lets see some pictures of that badboy in action. I should be moved in to my new house in mid september and I'll take some hq shots of the 134"
post #73 of 1240
I just got my 120in fixed frame in today and Ive been trying to put it together, got the frame all done and now Im working on the screen. So for those of you who have done the fixed frame option, how far did you have to stretch your screen, because mine looks like its 5in off from the side, didnt want to put a whole lot of force behind until I knew for sure if this was correct.
post #74 of 1240
eze, from what I have read, that is pretty much how they are and you have to stretch the devil out of the material but I guss thats what a fixed frame is all about.
post #75 of 1240
yea, i emailed them to make sure and then went ahead and did it. I got it all setup now and it is a really nice picture.

I would post the flickr link to my pics but it says i cant since I havent done 5 posts yet. maybe this one makes 5 and then Ill post them.

My digicam really sucks so I can only really take pictures that have at least some ambient light, but the completely dark usage is perfect. And now with this screen it is completely viewable in daylight in even the lowest lamp setting.
post #76 of 1240
Yea, that was 5 posts, so here's the link:

Pics here
post #77 of 1240
So, here's my 92" screen:

Close-up angle view:


Front view, with speaker panels below:


Obligatory screenshot:
post #78 of 1240
Very nice Dragon. I really want to get a 120 or possibly 135" but ( the last time I looked) Eastporters just does not have many sizes to choose from anymore, I think the last time they had 120 and 135 both in gray only? It will be a little longer before I can buy so I wonder if I will still be able to get it from them..

I just looked again and they have the 120 in white and gray and the 135 in gray only. No 92 or 106".
post #79 of 1240
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Originally Posted by Chadci View Post

Very nice Dragon. I really want to get a 120 or possibly 135" but ( the last time I looked) Eastporters just does not have many sizes to choose from anymore, I think the last time they had 120 and 135 both in gray only? It will be a little longer before I can buy so I wonder if I will still be able to get it from them..

I just looked again and they have the 120 in white and gray and the 135 in gray only. No 92 or 106".

Wow, that sucks. And I thought they had limited options before! For instance, I would have loved to get a 100" screen as that would have fit perfectly in my shadow-box.

You can only hope that they are clearing out old inventory in order to make room for a new shipment of Elunevision screens (with more options too, hopefully). Try contacting them to see what they say. Either that, or they're going to stop selling Elunevision altogether.

On a side note, does anybody know how I can display my pictures within my post like kej2u did with his post #61? The "attachments" don't garner as much notice, IMHO.
post #80 of 1240
Well you can see the 120 white in my pics, so they do have those in. I think on the site i saw the only ones they were limited on were the 134's
post #81 of 1240
I went ahead and sent them an e-mail, I will post their reply once I get it.
post #82 of 1240
Canadian version of site has a note that says:

"As you may have already noticed lately, most of our Fixed Frame Screens no longer listed. This was because we ran out of stock, due to overwhelming demand. They will be back in stock by end of September. We apologize for this inconvenience."
post #83 of 1240
I ordered a 120" fixed frame screen from Eastporters, but they delivered a much cheaper manual pull down screen. They have promised me that the the replacement is on the way, but I haven't seen the tracking number yet. I'm a bit worried given their reported lack of stock.
post #84 of 1240
This is the response I got from the today

"They went out of stock, but will be available again in about a month.

Thanks."
post #85 of 1240
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Originally Posted by Chadci View Post

This is the response I got from the today

"They went out of stock, but will be available again in about a month.

Thanks."

If they get a 100 incher, I'll be kickin myself.
post #86 of 1240
If the frame is too reflective, have any of you tried painting the frame with a flat black paint before installing the fabric?

Ron Jones
post #87 of 1240
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If the frame is too reflective, have any of you tried painting the frame with a flat black paint before installing the fabric?

The paint will probably reduce its reflectiveness, but will it be enough of an improvement that you'd be willing to risk ruining the finish of your frame? Not for me.

Personally, the reflectiveness doesn't bother me as I've projected the image to have only about 1-2 pixels of overspill, and the only time it's really noticeable is on closed-captioned tv channels (with the top couple pixel rows displaying white garbage).
post #88 of 1240
would it be possible to wrap the frame in velvet before attaching the material?
post #89 of 1240
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Originally Posted by RodK View Post

would it be possible to wrap the frame in velvet before attaching the material?

It would be difficult for several reasons:

1. The aluminum frame is hollow, and at the corners you must insert these L brackets inside the frame which would make it difficult to get a tightly wrapped mitered corner. [thanks to kej2u for the detailed pics]


2. It would be hard to attach the velvet to the backside of the aluminum frame. It's not like you can just use staples like with DIY wood frames.

3. The screen and tension clips may get in the way of securing it to the backside of the frame.

I think the trickiest task would be #2. A spray adhesive may do the job, but I'm not sure it would be strong enough. Not to mention the fact that if the spray doesn't work, there's no going back because you've just ruined the frame's finish.

Having said that, if anybody has tried it (successfully), let's see it.
post #90 of 1240
Just got off the phone:

The new arrival date is 1st week of October and of notable mention is a 1.8 grey screen material.

I might have to hold out for that.
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