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post #661 of 1236
Crazy that I found this thread. I was planning out my setup and noticed their website before this thread. It's good to see that people here would recommend these screens. They are about 30 minutes from where I live so I could always pick this up in person (as soon as I decide on screen size and gain).
post #662 of 1236
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Originally Posted by systemlayers View Post

Has anyone seen both the reference tab tensioned screen and the titan HD screen care to comment?
I can't decide between them, it'd be my first screen and titan HD would certainly save me quite a bit of money.
Looking at the 92"

I too am interested in the answer to this question. I will be purchasing the Epson 8700UB with a 100"-106" screen. Does easporters have a show room where I could see these two screens?

I've been reading about the Elite Screen Cinetensions 2 (comparable prices to the Titan tensioned screens) and some people report that the screens developed waves at the bottom after 2 - 2.5 yrs even though they are tensioned. Any similar problems with the EluneVision screens?
post #663 of 1236
Greetings;

Has anyone been successful at using the trigger feature of an Elunevision motorized screen?

Having a hard time understanding how this is supposed to work. Page 2 of the Luna brochure only shows where the plug is:

http://www.eastporters.com/PDF/Luna/brocheur.pdf

What kind of plug is required? It looks like it will need a female plug? And this plug get connected to a trigger out on a projector?

Thanks.
post #664 of 1236
The user manual for the Elunevision Reference Studio Tab-Tensioned screen doesn't give details about the trigger interface either... ?

http://www.elunevision.com/PDF/ReferenceTab/manual.pdf
post #665 of 1236
Can I buy these in the good ole U.S.A.?
post #666 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Bruce Wayne View Post

Can I buy these in the good ole U.S.A.?

Yep.

http://www.eastporters.com/usa/cart.php?page=index
post #667 of 1236
thanks dareal. I have a Sharp XV-Z12000MK2 that is not a very bright projector. Has anyone compared the 2.4 white to the da-lite hp material? I am also interested in the high gain grey. I have been using a material that had about 1.2 gain and lliked it, but was wondering with the grey if I would gain both pop and black levels.
post #668 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Dede View Post

The user manual for the Elunevision Reference Studio Tab-Tensioned screen doesn't give details about the trigger interface either... ?

I was wondering about this too and found out that the Reference Studio screen does not have provisions for a wired trigger. You have to buy the remote trigger option which is a little piece of electronics that plugs into the projector port and remotely (RF I assume) lowers/raises the screen. Kind of neat, but not including a wired option too is a turn off to me. Why pay extra for this if not required... There's a serial port on the housing too I was hoping to interface to, but apparently for factory use only.

You may want to send Elunevision a message on their web site for any specific questions, They answered me very quick and were quite helpful.
post #669 of 1236
Hey everyone,

I'm looking to get one of these screens and a projector from Eastporters and would like some opinions.

My budget is <$2500 (not including tax+shipping) for a projector and a screen. I'm considering the following options:

Panasonic AE4000U projector with 106" EluneVision Elara II Silver Screen

or

Epson 8350 projector with 108" EluneVision Reference Studio Screen


So my question is, is it better to get a better projector or a better screen? I have good light control in my room. It's in the basement so there won't be any concern about sunlight. With all the lights off it's pitch black. There will be some occasions where there will be some lights on in the adjacent room/bar area (Superbowl party, etc.) but everything can be controlled with a dimmer. Also, distance from lens to projector will be ~15 1/2 feet with main seating underneath the projector.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Michael
post #670 of 1236
Hi Mike,

I've used both screens extensively, and while the Elara II is a great screen (as owners of the Elara II will testify), the Reference screen is just a whole new experience when it comes to no texturing (especially noticeable for sporting events), no hot-spotting, color accuracy, etc. It just makes everything a whole lot better, to the point that the only thing not better on the 8350 + Reference setup will be that the AE4000 has a little bit deeper blacks.

You add to that the fact that the 8350 outputs more lumens of maximum brightness (and more importantly with much better color balance at max brightness than the AE4000, as various reviews will attest), and the Reference setup will definitely still work better with some ambient lights at the back. The fact that the Reference screen is future-proof (zero texturing means you can throw any resolution at it in the future, ie 4000 x 2000 and higher, and it will continue to have zero pixel degradation) and that you're paying for an overall better final projection setup (in terms of absolutely everything except a bit lower contrast) for less money would make the 8350 + Reference the better buy, in my opinion.

Again, the Elara II is definitely a solid screen, as owners will attest, but the Reference screen makes the overall image a whole lot better - when you put the two side by side, the Reference is definitely in a class of its own. It doesn't take an videophile to see the differences, whenever we've had people compare, they saw the dramatic differences in material quality and overall performance.

The screen upgrade program on Eastporters (upgrading from Elara/Elara II they bought before 2011 to Reference Studio) would have been hard to pull off otherwise if the image quality was dramatically better - as price conscious customers would create a backlash if they upgraded a screen and didn't notice a huge difference. Everyone has definitely seen a massive difference from feedback so far.

Milosh
post #671 of 1236
Thank you for the reply Milosh. Just a note, I meant to put the 100" Reference screen in my post instead of the 108" as that one would be just slightly too big for my setup, but I'm sure that won't make a difference in image quality correct?

I've also noticed the height dimensions of the 100" are actually 1" larger than the 106" Elara II because it uses a 5" frame. This has me slightly concerned because I have exactly 64" of space from top to bottom where the screen is going to go. I'm going to be placing the center speaker (which has a physical height of 6") behind the screen but underneath the frame. It will fit perfectly underneath with the 106" Elara II, but it will have a 1" overlap with the frame of the 100" Reference. I'm concerned that this would have a negative affect on my audio since 1" of the speaker would be outputting directly into the back of the screen frame.

If you or anyone else could weigh in with their thoughts about this I would be grateful. Thank you.

Michael
post #672 of 1236
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Originally Posted by miloshj View Post

Hi Mike,
...

Again, the Elara II is definitely a solid screen, as owners will attest, but the Reference screen makes the overall image a whole lot better - when you put the two side by side, the Reference is definitely in a class of its own. It doesn't take an videophile to see the differences, whenever we've had people compare, they saw the dramatic differences in material quality and overall performance.

...
Milosh

Milosh,

Do you guys have a showroom where I could see your screens?
post #673 of 1236
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Originally Posted by constp View Post

Milosh,

Do you guys have a showroom where I could see your screens?

Never mind, I just got your PM. I will contact you through the website.
post #674 of 1236
I'm going to be buying the Panny AE4k through Eastporters as the price is finally below the 2k mark in Canada. That being said I'm forced to bundle a screen with it. I would like one of their reference screens but can't afford the $1300 for a 2.35:1 custom.
My only two options would be the 2.35:1 Cinema white or the Perlux. Who has either of these and would you recommend one over the other?
http://www.eastporters.com/estore/cart.php?page=screens
I'm a "little" concerned about the texture of the Cinema white...Is it that bad??
post #675 of 1236
EluneVision doesn't send out samples and was wondering if anyone might
have a sample/scrap of the 2.4 laying around ? I gladly pay for the shipping.

I'm comparing high Gain Screens and currently have the Draper and DaLite samples and so far leaning towards
the Draper . Besides don't want to spend $ with DaLite anymore. Waiting on other samples from other brands.


Need /want something as close as possible to the old DaLite 2.8 for my Panny AE4000 that I'm moving into Bedroom which is slightly bigger (Longer throw almost same width tho)) than the living room.

EluneVision seems like a decent company to do business with just wish they had samples so I could make a decision.

EV has been great with the emails but no quote for what I want ..sent my TN
but haven't heard from them.

Wouldn't want a huge screen delivered here to NYC then decide it's not what I want .
post #676 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Chris_Holmes View Post

I'm going to be buying the Panny AE4k through Eastporters as the price is finally below the 2k mark in Canada. That being said I'm forced to bundle a screen with it. I would like one of their reference screens but can't afford the $1300 for a 2.35:1 custom.
My only two options would be the 2.35:1 Cinema white or the Perlux. Who has either of these and would you recommend one over the other?
http://www.eastporters.com/estore/cart.php?page=screens
I'm a "little" concerned about the texture of the Cinema white...Is it that bad??

Are you sure they are authorized resellers of Panasonic? They do not appear to be authorized resellers of Epson, as the following notice to consumers appears on Epson Canada's 8700UB page at http://www.epson.ca/cgi-bin/ceStore/...o&oid=62289799

Notice to Customers:

Epson distributes Home Cinema products

only through authorized channels. We have seen sales activity through an on-line reseller called Eastporters.ca. Please note they are not an authorized reseller of Epson products. In spite of this, they advertise 2 year Canadian Warranty on their website. Just wondering...
post #677 of 1236
That's a bit disturbing to see .. but that said I purchased an 8350 from them as part of a bundle a while back and registered it without issue with Epson.

It's a bit odd that Epson would post that comment on their web store, you'd think if they had issues with it their legal dept would send a C&D to eastporters directly. Also of note that page doesn't say they are not supported and/or don't have warranties because of it, just that they don't distribute through them.

I do remember that the easporters guys said they could only sell them along with a screen as part of a bundle, so maybe that's the workaround .. that they are selling them as bundles with their own products?
post #678 of 1236
Eastporters is not doing anything illegal. Epson's problem with us is we will not cooperate with their attempt to keep competition low to help out brick & mortar stores. To do this, they allow one eStore per province to sell their projectors.

From back in 2005, when Eastporters first started selling projectors (and may I add, back in those days, our Epson Home Cinema projector prices were literally $800-900 less than the second lowest competitor anywhere in Canada) to the future, we will always offer the best prices on Projectors and screens we possibly can.

The end result? Less competition, allowing some Brick & Mortar stores (East Hamilton Radio would be an example for us Hamiltonians) to sell projectors for a much higher price than you typically see online - this is only half the problem, as it also allows them to overcharge on screens by what we feel is up to 5-6x versus a comparible or better screen we sell on Eastporters.

Epson knows we aren't doing anything illegal, which is why the only thing they can do is post that message on their website. With that statement on their website, I feel they are in some way admitting that they are price-gauging Canadians (we do not have their support, and yet we can still offer better prices than the majority, if not all, of their resellers - so you do the math on how much money they are raking in through their "official" resellers).

Because we don't have Epson's support, we have to purchase the projectors at a higher price, and yet still manage to offer them at a better price than competitors - I'll therefore let you put 2 and 2 together about how much money our competitors are making per sale.

Our business model is based on not gauging our customers - which means we use lower profit margins, selling the items as bundled products (essentially making it a different "package" product altogether), setting aggressive bundled discounts - coupling excellent projector prices and excellent screen prices with a further bundled discount of up to $100 on top of that - that we believe are the best in Canada, and cutting out the middle man. The result is that we have a loyal following of customers that keep coming back to us for all their HT Projection needs and refer us to all of our friends. We do not have a large marketing budget, so our level of service and responsiveness to customer needs is what keeps us in business. We wouldn't be here 7 years later. Our positive ratings speak for themselves.

The onus is on big businesses to stop treating Canadians like second-class customers who will continue to pay much higher prices on goods, from electronics to cars, versus customers living in other first-world countries.

The onus is definitely not on Eastporters to start gauging our Canadian customers.

All the Epson projectors have the 2 year warranty, you have our word on that. Projectors do break once in a while, and we are committed to having the best customer service in the industry, as I believe we've had for the past 7 years.

With all of the above being said, this is really an EluneVision screen thread, so I encourage everyone to keep the discussion to EluneVision screens (on this thread at least) - I will gladly continue to answer any questions you may have on EluneVision screens. If you have any questions on Eastporters, you can use Eastporters.com and get in contact through email or the toll free number.

Milosh Jovic
post #679 of 1236
I am almost done my theater room and am expecting I will buy an Elunevision 2.35:1 acoustically transparent screen shortly. I have seen a review from a publications web site but thought I would see if anyone else has any experience yet with their fixed frame AT screens. I have received samples of screen materials from a few places and their material looks pretty good.

Thanks
Ron
post #680 of 1236
I've decided to go with one of the motorized Luna HD screens for my Epson 1080UB, my room has white walls but i have drapes covering the blinds. Which screen is best for that situation? I am leaning towards the pro-white 1.2 but I am afraid of reflections from the walls that kill black levels.
post #681 of 1236
I have just order the Reference Studio tab screen on Monday and I'm happy to say that there were super quick to ship and I actually received mine on Wed already !!!
My projector (Epson 8700UB) is still in a box so don't have comments on video quality yet though from looking at packaging and how the screen comes down, I don't have any complaints. So, its 10/10 right now in terms of service, shipping & packagng. Will report back when I have a chance to see some video/movies.
post #682 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Ronzai View Post

I am almost done my theater room and am expecting I will buy an Elunevision 2.35:1 acoustically transparent screen shortly. I have seen a review from a publications web site but thought I would see if anyone else has any experience yet with their fixed frame AT screens. I have received samples of screen materials from a few places and their material looks pretty good.

Thanks
Ron

I have a custom 112" Elunevision Reference Tab Tension screen with AT material. I find the picture is great except for one thing - words cause kind of a reflection look. For example, Star Wars is the worst at the start of the movie where it says "In a galaxy far far ....." and the chapter intro, you see the main words and then slightly below a faint reflection of the words. My walls are light colored behind the screen and when I check behind I see the words appearing on the wall. I imagine the picture is hitting the back wall as well and then reflecting onto the screen. Not sure if this issue is specific to this screen or AT screens in general.

I do have some creases in my screen but the guys at Eastporters are great and will be getting a new screen soon.

I'm debating if I still get the AT material but I have my speakers sitting behind the screen. Does the non-AT Reference Screen really block the sound or muffle it badly? Would painting the wall behind the screen a darker color help with this reflection issue?

Any help/ideas are greatly appreciated.
post #683 of 1236
Hey DK,

Good to hear from someone who has experience with their AT screen material. I would suspect that the image is reflecting back slightly from a light coloured wall especially if the material is quite close to the wall.

I will be using a fixed frame and my screen wall will be painted flat black to hopefully stop (significantly reduce) reflections. I may fir out the screen mounting an extra inch as well to ensure my speaker cones don't reflect back with the grills removed.

I am at the mill work stage of my theater room so hope to be ordering in about a month after final coat of paint electrical finish and carpet (damn it takes a long time to do these projects on weekends and the odd evening).

Ron
post #684 of 1236
Finally hung the projector & the screen and watched 2-3 movies on the combo (& still using "factory" set up from the projector in THX or Theatre Black mode).

All I can say is Wow !!!

When the credits scroll through the screen and we pause it, I have to walk up to ~1 feet before I could see any form of pixels on the white text. There's no hot spot, and colors/contrast is exemplary. What we noticed is movies have a 3D feel to them rather than simply big screen but flat/dull.

This is our 1st front projection set up, based on what I saw at friends & stores (where I saw the Epson 8700/Stewart combo), this is right up there with best I've seen.

The motorization works great so far and the screen is stopping at preset place everytime thus far.
I particularly like how the mounting bracket is designed (not that I've seen others) which makes installation a breeze.

All I'm waiting for now is the remote trigger to be shipped to me - I somehow thought the screen also has native IR support so can easily be integrated with rest of the system control. But it doesn't Only mechanism is hard-wire or RF. So, this would be my only pet peeve request.

I can't think of reason why I want to separate projector on/off from screen up/down; other than IR macros do sometimes get out of sync with reality so I really don't want to see the screen go up/down a few times to sync macro state with actuals
post #685 of 1236
I have a Panny ae4000u projector with one 2.35:1 fixed screen (elara II) and pull down 16x9 (elara)screen. I would have liked a reference screen but I didn't know any better last year when i got in and cost was a factor.

However, from my observation, the fixed screen is ok and has some tiny almost like goosebump texture on the screen . Its un-noticeble from the distance. The blacks are not black enough and im not sure if its the projector or the screen. The blacks almost look like dark grey. Maybe more tweaking is required.

I think the pull down 1.85:1 screen is a cheap one for 150$. Its more for watching simple bluray docs etc and few animations. You can tell its not high end and it will do till i find a better pull down. The images seem washed out on the pulldown but better on 2.35:1.
post #686 of 1236
Hi guys

To make installation of the Reference screens even easier, our new batch of Reference screens includes a large sheet of air-laid paper. This paper is a soft material that gives off no lint and no fibers. Installing a screen requires you to have a clean space on the floor that is bigger than the size of the screen. Lots of you guys have carpets as well and therefore dust and dirt is prone to get onto the velour frames. In order to avoid this from happening, we decided to add a sheet of air-laid paper, which you can place the frames on to install the screen. The sheet itself is much larger than the screen so guys shouldn't have any problems with dust or dirt getting onto the frames anymore. Simply lay the material onto the floor and do all your assembly on the paper for best results.

I have attached some photos of the material.

Dave Hao
EluneVision Screens
LL
LL
post #687 of 1236
I recently purchased the 115" EluneVision Reference Studio Fixed-Frame Screen - 1.0 Gain screen for use with my new Epson 8700UB projector.
I have a dedicated theater room (fully light controlled - no windows) that is approximately 18ftx14ft in size. I was a little apprehensive about buying such a large screen for such a small room but since setting up the screen have realized that there is no problem with having such a large image when sitting only 12ft away from the screen.

The EluneVision screen arrived very quickly and was very well packaged. All of the individual components were wrapped in plastic, inside a box, inside another box and the outer-most box was again wrapped in plastic, so absolutely no risk of damage due to moisture or dirt.

The screen even came with a white drop-cloth which was very useful for preventing any kind of dust or debris from attaching itself to the screen or black felt border of the screen during assembly.

Setup was very simple as the instructions were very clear. The only tricky parts were:

1) Inserting the corner L-pieces into the frame required a little force as they are tight fitting.
2) The screws that attach the aluminium frame to the plastic corner L-pieces didn't always go in so easily and using an electric screw-driver easily destroyed the screws. It was therefore necessary to use a manual screw-driver to install all 16 screws.
3) The 'key hole' mounting brackets that were provided work well for the top edge of the screen but since inverted versions were not provided for the lower edge, the 'key hole' is the wrong-side up for the lower edge and therefore not as useful.

Not being a D.I.Y. expert, I devised the following approach to centering, leveling and hanging the screen on my wall:
1) Measure the size of the screen
2) Measure the size of the wall
3) Performed calculations to determine center location for the screen.
4) Measured and marked 2 points on the wall where the mounting screws will be inserted.
5) Inserted 2 pins in the drywall where the screws will be placed and tied a length of cotton between the 2 pins.
6) Checked the cotton with a spirit-level to ensure that the 2 pins were perfectly level as this would dictate whether the screen would be level once hung.
7) Installed two 50lb-capable drywall EZ-anchors in the exact locations where the pins were placed.
8) With the help of my wife, hung the screen from the two screws that were installed in the drywall anchors.


Once setup, the screen looks great on the wall! The black felt frame creates a nice defined edge and the plastic white screen material has absolutely no visible texture or hotspots. The Epson 8700UB produces very rich colours on this screen. Watching movies on this new setup is very immersive and has completely eliminated the need for me to visit the expensive local cinema

I purchased this screen based purely on reviews that I had found on the web and I am very satisfied with the purchase. I would strongly recommend this screen to anyone who has a fully light-controlled room.
LL
LL
post #688 of 1236
I just ordered a 120" fixed frame grey screen for my theater room which is long overdue. Have been waiting a long time for this. Just bought the projector on the weekend and tested out what a 120" image would look like.

I just looked over the install instructions and it looks pretty straight forward. The only part I don't like is how the screen is hung on the wall. I was considering assembling the hanging brackets without the screen on first, then hanging it without the screen so that I can get the screw locations just right. Maybe this won't be necessary but I'll see once it arrives.
post #689 of 1236
I just wanted to compliment Dave and Milosh at EluneVision for their excellent product, and service!

I just installed a custom sized, fixed-frame reference studio 100 screen in my small basement theater room. Given the small size of the room, I wanted the screen to fit flush wall-to-wall (left/right), in order to maximize the screen size. The viewable screen size is 99 inches diagonal, 16:9. Total custom width including frame is 93 inches. Also, I requested the use of their thinner frame width of 3.5 inches (approx), instead of the standard 5 inch width frame; again to maximize viewable area.

The custom fit is absolutely perfect. I had no issues at all fitting the screen in my space.

My projector is an Epson 8700UB, using thx mode. The room is light controlled, and painted entirely black. Viewing position is about 13 ft. I am new to projectors, but to my untrained eye this combination with the reference studio material is just spectacular.

The custom build time from order to my door was about 2 wks, as promised. The shipping box was essentially double boxed with no damage. The build quality appears excellent. A nice touch was the inclusion of a large soft cloth to provide a safe/clean surface for assembly.

2 minor things:
-No assembly manual included in the box. But I just looked at their website.
-The screen material initially had a rubber/plasticky smell that permeated the room that has now gone away.

Overall, I'm a very happy customer,

thanks,
Andy
post #690 of 1236
Hi, did anyone buy the grey reference screen yet or is there any place that it could be seen in action? Cosmetic constraints won't allow me to use darker colors for the home theater room (not built yet) and I would also love to be able to use it in a living room setup with, unfortunately, lots of ambient, although indirect, light.
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