EluneVision screens - Page 25

Originally Posted by DaveHao

Hi all

Just a quick announcement, The new EluneVision Acoustic Weave screens will be out in about 4-5 weeks. The screens will be available in Fixed Frame and Tab Tension motorized format. The Fixed Frames will have the same 5" border as our Reference series. The material used is a very fine weave with virtually no attenuation. There will also be no comb filtering effects. The weave will have a 15 degree shift to eliminate moire.

Originally Posted by imserious

what screen would you recommend for the epson 8350, 20' throw to 120" screen? will mostly view at night, but still have large windows without covering.

Cinema Gray 1.1 Gain
Perlux-Silver 1.4 Gain
Vivid-Pro Cinema Gray 1.8 Gain

I don't want to deal with an overly sparkly image, but I also don't want dim whites. I'm leaning towards the Perlux-Silver 1.4.

I'm tempted to go Cinema Gray 1.1, but worried that the image won't be bright enough given the throw distance and image size.

Thoughts?

Milosh, can you do the silver perlux custom in a Titan retractable? The website states that perlux is for fixed frame only.

Originally Posted by Liaury

I'm noticing the pictures in the thread with the Reference series screen show a lot of light reflecting from the screen onto the ceiling and walls. I'm thinking this in NOT a desirable effect, but a trade off for the good viewing angles you get from the ref screens. Is it safe to say that having light color ceilings is especially bad with wide viewing angle screens?

Originally Posted by Liaury

I'm noticing the pictures in the thread with the Reference series screen show a lot of light reflecting from the screen onto the ceiling and walls. I'm thinking this in NOT a desirable effect, but a trade off for the good viewing angles you get from the ref screens. Is it safe to say that having light color ceilings is especially bad with wide viewing angle screens?

Originally Posted by Ronzai


Looks like they may have a winner here with the new acoustic weave screens.

I ordered an Elunevision 125" Diagonal 2.35:1 Acoustic Weave screen and thought I would share a few shots of my room with the screen in place (not the final one). Mine was a custom order prior to this announcement about using the reference screen frames now. It would have been nice but the frame I received is pretty nice as well. The velvet flocking absorbs any light spillage really well.

I experienced a few growing pains along with Dave Hao and their manufacuring facility as they were supposed to use the new fabric and tilt it the 15 degrees which they didn't and as a result there was plenty of Moire on the screen. Dave promptly ordered me a new piece of fabric (the new good stuff) but there was a manufacturing flaw where ripples were present at the mounting loops that could not be tensioned out (and they forgot the tilt again slight Moire visible). I mentioned this to Dave and exchanged photos. Dave promptly had ordered me another piece which I received yesterday. I will link to a few screen shots once I have them and get my projector setup properly with the screen.

It took a little longer than I would have liked after making my initial order but what great customer service from Dave and Milosh. I would buy from them again.

Hopefully this link works (first kick at this)

http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/28784...8536825-32193/

Ron

Any idea when the AT screens will be available to purchase in the US?

I have read a lot of reviews but other then "we haven't tested it yet" I haven't heard any comments about it's performance with 3D projectors.

I just bought a Sony VPL-VW95ES and I don't want to go cheap on a screen if it's not going to give me amazing 3D.

I know the money back guarantee is awesome but I don't want to waste our time setting it up and having to send it back.

Any thoughts??

Originally Posted by DaveHao

Hi all

Just a quick announcement, The new EluneVision Acoustic Weave screens will be out in about 4-5 weeks. The screens will be available in Fixed Frame and Tab Tension motorized format. The Fixed Frames will have the same 5" border as our Reference series. The material used is a very fine weave with virtually no attenuation. There will also be no comb filtering effects. The weave will have a 15 degree shift to eliminate moire.

Originally Posted by psgcdn

Has anyone compared the new AT material against the Reference screen in terms of pictures quality? I am torn between:

1. 118" wide Reference, never fully unrolled to the top of my center speaker, leaving a constant-height picture from there to to edge of the ceiling
   -> 128 inch diagonal 2.35:1 screen (118x50)
   -> 102 inch diagonal 16:9 screen (89x50)
   -> plus side: zoom out wider for 2.35:1 movies, which is cool.
   -> minus side:
   - Project black bars onto ceiling for cinemascope content.
   - Top of screen a bit high at 22 degrees above eye level.
   - picture size a stretch for proposed Panny 4000 projector
   - projector needs auto lens shift and zoom.
2. 120" 16:9 (105x59") acoustically transparent screen
   -> leaves 114-inch diagonal 2.35:1 screen (105x45)
   -> plus side:
   - can be lowered in front of center speaker at more comfortable height.
   - no lens zoom and shift allows purchase of cheaper projector (Epson 8350)
   -> minus side:
   - project top and bottom black bars onto screen, but I suppose most people do this...
   - how is the picture quality compared to Reference screen?

A third option would be a 118-inch wide cinescope-format AT screen, and an auto-lens shift projector, that that would add $1500 or so to the cost.

Originally Posted by PhysEdTeacher

I need a screen for my basement theater, are these screens only for high end projectors? I like what I'm reading about these Reference screens. I'm considering the BenQ W6000, Epson 6500ub, or 3010. Not sure if I need to spend alot for a screen like this, they cost just as much as the pj's I'm considering. I will have some ambient light at times, I like to watch sports and TV with some lights dim but other than that mostly for movies and can completely darken room.

Originally Posted by blee0120

Those are good good projectors, especially the benq w6000. But the better the screen is the better the projector will perform. However, with these reference screens, you will be better off with the right environment. Meaning, like control and dark color room. It's a good investment, I here nothing but positive things about these screens

Those are good good projectors, especially the benq w6000. But the better the screen is the better the projector will perform. However, with these reference screens, you will be better off with the right environment. Meaning, like control and dark color room. It's a good investment, I here nothing but positive things about these screens

Originally Posted by miloshj

The Reference Studio AudioWeave, which will be released within days, is a superior product to the competition (whatever the price or claimed performance may be).

Actual testing was done in an anechoic chamber, and our testing has revealed that every single other brand's material needs actual equalization, even though a lot of them claim that their material does not. We saw anywhere up to a 2dB+ difference between the lower and the higher frequencies for some of the "high end" materials mentioned above. This 2dB+ difference in attenuation basically corresponds to having, as an example, the 8kHz frequency sound being roughly 40% quieter than the 3kHz signal, with respect to the original audio source. The reason that the EluneVision AudioWeave took so long to be officially released is to get the material completely right, and not make the user live with inferior performance, like both the equivelant-priced and the much more expensive competition asks the user to do. The material went through many revisions - the final, best revision was finally completed and tested very recently.

I'm not really sure how the competition can tout this above outlined performance as being "audio-transparent with no equalization required", but the EluneVision AudioWeave material will truly require no equalization, as it slightly attenuates all frequencies in a linear manner, so all you have to do is slightly increase the dB output for the speakers behind the screens (unlike the competition, which attenuates mid and higher range frequencies at a dramatically higher rate than it does the lower frequencies, thus requiring a great deal of expensive equalization, or asking the user to live with far less than perfect audio quality).

From a visual perspective, the new EluneVision AudioWeave has the smallest holes and smoothest material ever seen in a weave, leading to less light leakage and higher definition, so both the video and audio quality will be unrivaled. The EluneVision material is the best, and when it launches in a few days, you can read further into the testing methodology, results, and more importantly, unlike most of the competition, you will have the right to return the screen if you are not satisfied.

With the new audio-transparent screen, the audio-transparency and video quality is second to none.

Thanks,

Milosh