The "Official" Denon AVR-2807 Thread - Page 111

Thanks for your response! I was wondering if that could be the issue or not. Just seems strange to me that the Denon can "see" 7.1 coming in (as illuminated by the display) but nothing comes out of the SBL or SBR channels. My only real issue is when using it to play MP3's....I don't mind the games being in 5.1 so much.

Hey all,

I currently am having audio problems with PS3. I am currently running HDMI from PS3 to the 2807, and I am unable to select another sound field, such as Dolby or DTS, it only reads multi-channel in any advice or solutions, as I can not toggle between sond modes???

thanks in advance from a newbie

The PS3 can be configured for different audio outputs. By default HDMI will use PCM with the PS3 doing the decoding. See
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...diooutput.html
You can force it to output bitstream http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ings.html#1470 but for Blueray movies this might not be the best since for DolbyTrueHD since it will downgrade the audio to the Dolby Digital Stream.
RabidBunny

Rabid Bunny,

Thanks again for the assistance....
but why do I see "multichannel out" despite forcing PS3 to output bitstream playing Madden 08? I am still unable to specify a DTS or Dolby soundfield it is currently set up through the V.AUX input on the 2807 does this have anything to do with it? Understanding this is becoming increasingly difficult and I know it shouldn't be. Is "multichannel out" the 2807's way of saying we know its not DOLBY or DTS but its the best we can do with the decoding of audio signals from PS3. I do not have this problem with my HD-DVR from DirecTV so why is this PS3 unable to do it?

Thanks

This links discusses the issue http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949226. In games the default output is PCM (PS3 does not do a encode of the PCM to DTS or Dolby Digital). There is not really an issue since PCM is better than DTS or Dolby Digital. The multichannel PCM would be fine but channels not being used are muted meaning that Dolby ProLogic IIx cannot be applied with out extra measures. This is more of an issue for PS2 games, Audio playback, and Divx playback. The multichannel out is the way of the 2807 saying the input is PCM Audio and no decode is necessary.
RabidBunny
PS I looked into these issue a bit before I got my AVR-2807, don't feel bad about having difficulty understanding it.

Thanks again I feel a lot better knowing this info!!!

Well if anyone cares...I figured out my problem. I kept on thinking it was overheating but I was heading down the wrong path.

After I put two fans on top of it and one below it creating a path of air through the amp at fairly high speeds and it kept shutting off I thought maybe it wasn't overheating at all. I remembered that at my old house it didn't do this at all. At my new house I ran wires in the walls and in the attic to the rear wall using cut-in boxes, banana plugs, the whole deal. I started to think my wiring was bad so I unplugged each wire one at a time trying to see if it would stop shutting off. When I unplugged the rear left speaker wire it worked perfectly. I unscrewed both plates and couldn't see anything shorting out. Figuring I would have to run new wire I started screwing everything back together while I had a Blu-ray playing still. As I screwed in the back plate the speaker cut off. I realized that the banana plugs were touching the foil backing of the insulation and that was causing the system to shut off. Brilliant!

Glad to hear you found the issue and have it resolved.
RabidBunny

I really love this receiver, i had previoulsy used the 2805 (silver) and its only gotten better with the new series.

I was mostly excited about the audessey system and room set-up eq. Unfortunately the sound was like crap. I ran the set-up twice and the numbers didnt really change (maybe 0.5dB). The dam thing had my center level so low, i could hardly here any dialogue because the fronts were cranked up. In the end i have all those settings off and adujusted the levels manually, and now i can here what someone is saying on screen.

As a side not, i like the styling of the 2807 over the newer look of the XX08 series. The Gold lettering is much more classic to Denon and the square flat face is sharper than the gay rounded look of the new series.

Also the 2807/2805 and the speaker binding posts off to the right side of the rear panel. I noticed the 2808 has the binding posts in the center of the rear panel. This is a huge issue for me because i have the receiver on a rack which has a center post on the back. There would be no way i could plug in the speaker cables with a 2808. See below

You should visit the Audyssey (spelled correctly) thread. You did something wrong because it dramatically improves the sound.

PCM better than Dolby or DTS? Yes, provided it's uncompressed PCM on a BD disc and you're comparing it to a normalnot high defDolby/DTS soundtrack

If your PCM is coming from the decoding of a Dolby or DTS soundtrack, the PCM is no better than the Dolby/DTS and that's regardless of whether or not the Dolby/DTS track is from one of their new high def formats or the older formats in use on DVDs. In this case the PCM is simply an intermediate digital form of the Dolby/DTS digital bitstream into which the bitstream has to be decoded in order for a DAC to be able to convert the soundtrack to analog for playback by your receiver. PCM in this case is no better and no worse than the Dolby/DTS soundtrack it comes from. It's simply that soundtrack in another digital form.

I think some people may be arguing for quite a while yet whether an uncompressed PCM soundtrack on a BD disc is better than the highest def Dolby or DTS soundtracks using lossless compression. Provided bit rates and sampling frequency are the same and the Dolby or DTS track isn't adding anything extra like dialog normalisation to the PCM data, there should be no difference in theory.

Hello,

Ive read all the posts I could re: the Xbox 360 and 2807 issue, however none of them are about the newer Xbox 360s with HDMI so I wondered if this were different.

I have an Xbox 360 elite using HDMI going to the 2807 than component from the reciever to my Sony XBR 4. In previous posts about xbox - component - reciever - HDMI - HDTV people were told to turn ON the 'analog to HDMI convert' , however I am going from digital to analog .. so what do I do?

Anyhow, I have sound but no video. Any suggestions on settings that would allow me to see the video as well?

Question 2: Would it solve all my issues if I just got a second HDMI cord so that it was HDMI from xbox to reciever and HDMI from reciever to TV ??? Would this be output at 1080p?

Thanks ahead of time.

Zsolt

i'm not sure this will help you, but i just tried to set up my xbox360 today using the optical wire and the massive modular plug to the components on the back of the receiver. Unfortunately, nothing i did, would show the video... audio was ok.

In the end, i just used a HDMI cable from the xbox360 to the reciever and i have no issues with video or audio. As a matter of fact, i think the picture is sharper now than it was when i was running the component cable directly to the tv.

The 2807 does not convert HDMI video in to component video out. You will need to use HDMI out from receiver to TV. If the HDMI input is 1080p, the HDMI output will be 1080p.

here is a stupid question that i haven't found an answer for yet, as previously posted, i bought an open box 987 and it has the wrong remote, is there a way to tune the radio stations on the receiver w/o the remote?

once it's on the tuner mode, the directions i think say use the directional pads to adjust the stations, but it's not working. the directional pad buttons work for setting up the system, but not for tuning.

i'm in the process of trying to procure a remote for the system (rc1051 or rc1030), but until then, is there something i can do?

tia
mike

Thanks UserB! The quick response is much appreciated.

Zsolt

I'm not aware of any way to tune radio stations on the 2807 without the remote, unless you have presets already defined (press Tuning Preset on the receiver and then change by turning the function knob). The directional pads (both receiver and remote) are not used for radio channels.

holy crap!!! thanks!!! i just hit the auto preset button so it programmed a bunch of junk, but some it is good stations... THANKS!!!!!

not sure why, but i couldn't derive this information from the owners manual :P

even worse, the tech support guy couldn't tell me this either... U DA MAN! if you're ever in the hartford ct area, first round is on me!

Did the rc-1030 come with it? Can you not change the stations with the tuning, channel and shift buttons?

the avr-987 is supposed to come with rc-1051, i bought it open box, so they gave me a remote for the 688, which doesn't seem to want to work with tuning on the remote, mostly just power, settings & volume.

i'm in the process of trying to get a rc-1030 or rc-1051 right now. but at least i can use the tuner again!

I would think that remote would work, but I have no experience with it. Did you try the mode and the tuning buttons (should be on the rear of the remote) for auto/manual tuning? Did you try the shift and channel buttons to change presets? Just curious, because you mentioned trying the directional pad but I didn't see you mention trying the appropriate methods.

I've been catching up on this thread since I got my open-box 987 a week ago. I finally got it hooked up this past weekend and am pretty happy with it! The component-1 video in doesn't seem to work, but I can live without it for now.

I noticed several posts from a month ago asking about banana plugs. They definitely do make it A LOT easier to hook up speaker wire. But they don't have to be that expensive. Monoprice.com carries them for $1.76/pair or less + shipping. That's definitely much cheaper than what you can usually find locally.

Banana plugs at Monoprice.com

i pretty much hit all the buttons on the remote... the ones that work on the front are volume, the vcr, dvd, tv selector buttons, enter & directional pad, on the back, all the yellow buttons that choose mode, and the setup/directional buttons work.

none of the 5 lower left side buttons work, nor do the channel or shift buttons seem to have any effect.

i'm hoping to be able to get an appropriate remote for not much, and since i have radio now, i actually am mostly ok without the remote at this point i think. The auto-presets seem to have programmed a lot of garbage stations, and non-stations, but at least i can make it up to about 103.9 before it ran out of presets. in my area, that is only 2 or 3 stations that i listen to that are up that high...

Sorry if this has been covered, but this is a huge thread to wade thru...

I would like to use the monitor out jacks on the back of the 2807 as a second video output, so that i dont always have to fire up the projector eg: if i want to play a playlist in xbox 360 without actually turning on the projector.


Any help is appreciated...

GeoExplorer
New Member
Posts: 2 Hi, I am getting no audio from a 40GB PS3 hooked up to the 2807 via HDMI. The picture is great on a projector which is connected to the 2807 HDMI out port. Under the video setup menu on the 2807, I have selected VDP and set it to HDMI1 and made sure the audio is directed to Amp. I have also double checked the audio input setup menu that HDMI1 is selected for vdp on the digital in assign menu. From the PS3 I have updated the system software to the latest version. After reading some postings here, I have tried combinations of setting the bdp/dvd audio output to bitstream or pcm, and the sound options to either automatic or manual. Under manual I tried all the options or just some of the options. Nothing has worked so far. I hooked up the ps3 directly to a hdtv in another room with the HDMI cable and picture and sound work fine on automatic mode, so it is not a problem with the cable or the ps3 itself. Thanks, Greg


GeoExplorer

12-01-07, 01:47 PM #3186 | Link
Kevin12586
AVS Special MemberJoin Date: Feb 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 2,774 Try a different port on the 2807, I am not sure if vdp is configured for audio as well as video. Use VCR or something, I had the same problem until I got to port that is supposed to output audio as well as video.

As above, I was trying to get multichannel Linerar PCM audio from PS3 through HDMI to get Multichannel IN working on my 2707, but was only getting stereo using the VDP inputs. I'm sending the video by component, as I'm an early adopter & my TV has no HDMI. I switched the inputs to the VCR-1 in and now get "Multichannel In" on the receiver. Hopefully, this means I'm getting uncompressed Dolby HD from my blueray discs, but no way to confirm this. Anybody know how to confirm? Thanks for everyones' help, this was otherwise going to get me to trade in this receiver, now it should be fine if putting out HD audio...
-Zmaniac

Well, I'm a bit little late to the party.

To facilitate my upcoming BD player I've sold my beloved Denon 2803 and replaced it with a gently used Denon 2807.

Net price $250.

Looking forward to playing with the Audyesy setup but rest assured I'll still have to go back and test via my analog SPL.

Other then the HDMI, in room eq, and 20W more per channel the two seem to be otherwise unchanged so at least my learning curve should be a bit shorter this time.

cheers

The settings sound right so the only thing I can suggest is that you double check that you have the HDMI cable from the PS3 actually plugged into the HDMI 1 input and not the HDMI 2 input by mistake.

He fixed his problem (see post 3188).

I would like to use the monitor out jacks on the back of the 2807 to hook up a small lcd screen. I would use this as a second video output for one of my source inputs, so that i don't always have to fire up the projector. Does anyone know how to accomplish this. Specifically, I want to be able to have the component 1 input (xbox 360) viewable by both the hdmi out, and the monitor out connections on back of the 2807...

Any help is appreciated...

If your input is component and not 1080p, you should get output from both the HDMI monitor out and the component monitor out as long as video convert is turned on for the input.