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post #31 of 61
No, I won't be getting the BR Sammy at launch time.

I'll probably wait until players get down in the $300 range before I move towards a High Def DVD player (not committed to either standard at this point.) Not to mention finicial negotions with the wife are a pre-requisite for me and I'm seriously considering getting a TiVo Series 3 when they hit the market.

Besides my HTPC does a better job at upconverting DVDs than any upconverting player on the market and I can live with it for a while longer. Hopefully somebody will come up with a package solution for High Def DVDs as what was done by Creative Labs Dxr2 DVD for DVDs back when players where $700+. The key would be tying the output to only be put out an HDCP compliant HDMI/DVI output which would be part of the decoder card. Of course there have been many claims and counter claims about the ability / permision to do this.

CCourtney
post #32 of 61
nope - same a paint... and a couple of others; I will buy the first hdmi 1.3 to get full audio support; one exception - I'll get a PS3 for games regardless if that hits first... then continue the hdmi 1.3 wait....


ken
post #33 of 61
Waiting for Denon (;
post #34 of 61
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Originally Posted by Earz
Most, if you can't already tell, don't want the Samsung name, much like the Toshiba name....its pretty much mud as far as quality sd dvd players go.
That may be your opinion of why people aren't buying the Samsung. In this thread however it looks like 164 people plan on getting the Toshiba regardless of it's name.
post #35 of 61
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Originally Posted by efranzen
That may be your opinion of why people aren't buying the Samsung. In this thread however it looks like 164 people plan on getting the Toshiba regardless of it's name.
Well, they don't really have a choice, only Toshiba (or rebadged Toshibas) will be available for HD DVD's launch.
post #36 of 61
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Originally Posted by HorrorScope
I don't like to nitpic, but so far only 8 sells? I thought this camp had more end-user support then the competition. Not by these numbers, not even close.
I think much of the problem is the number of BluRay players. My best guesses for timings at this point are that people can get the Samsung in May, or wait about 2 months and get the Pioneer ($1800), or wait another month or two for the Sony non-PS3 player, or wait another 2 months and get the PS3 (if they preorder early). As I said elsewhere, I expect a lot of BluRay supporters to be on the sidelines for a while. Especially those who order a PS3 as soon as they can and then would need to justify the cost of a player that will leave them with 2 unless they decide to sell it at what will likely be a fair loss when their PS3 arrives. The lack of other players coming out soon could work in Toshiba's favor along with their lower prices since waiting a couple to few months after launch isn't likely to help an HD-DVD supporter a lot.

--Darin
post #37 of 61
I going to wait for some intensive reviews on the players before buying anything.

Not much point in buying anyway until a good selection of titles is available.

PS3 makes the best sense to me becuase even if Blu-Ray goes Betamax, you can still play great games on it. :)
post #38 of 61
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Originally Posted by Clepto
Well, they don't really have a choice, only Toshiba (or rebadged Toshibas) will be available for HD DVD's launch.
True, but then again, the only thing available at the Blu-Ray launch is the Samsung. It looks like many will be holding off from the launch until something better comes along.
post #39 of 61
No. Samsung is one of those brands that I don't have much confidence in for new technologies. It tends to have a lot of glitches in the beginning. At the price they are charging, I want to have one that will last for a while.
post #40 of 61
Since i seem to be one of the few i will offer a review. Really im not keen on samsung dvd players but i have to have a blu-ray player as soon as they are available.
post #41 of 61
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Originally Posted by efranzen
That may be your opinion of why people aren't buying the Samsung. In this thread however it looks like 164 people plan on getting the Toshiba regardless of it's name.
You mean this poll that has no.. no option and has been up for what 6 weeks or more.

I have been all over the net looking at polls, and Blu Ray seems to lead them......but with the pitiful amount of A/V geeks buying into either format early, I am starting to have very serious doubts as to whether either format will be around long.

There are far more A/V board members saying they will not buy either than anything.
Now, more than ever I believe the PS3 is going to make or break getting hi res video into mass Americas homes.
Other than that, my money would be on neither as a long term format unless one drops out of the War.
post #42 of 61
Will not be buying the Samsung especially since it will only do 720p/1080i. I will ether purchase the Sony ES, Pioneer Elite or hold out for a Denon once a player becomes available.
post #43 of 61
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Originally Posted by Dave Moritz
Will not be buying the Samsung especially since it will only do 720p/1080i.
I think I read that they had added 1080p output. Not sure whether that was 1080p60 only or included 1080p24.

--Darin
post #44 of 61
The samsung will do 1080p now. It was not going to at first but they chnged it so it will.. wehter it 1080p60 or 1080p24 i am not sure,
post #45 of 61
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Originally Posted by HorrorScope
I don't like to nitpic, but so far only 8 sells? I thought this camp had more end-user support then the competition. Not by these numbers, not even close.
There are different types of support. For example, cheerleaders support the football team, but they don't contribute to the outcome of the game.
post #46 of 61
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Originally Posted by kevinca1
Since i seem to be one of the few i will offer a review. Really im not keen on samsung dvd players but i have to have a blu-ray player as soon as they are available.

You sir....are an early adopter extremist ....and I am the pot calling the kettle black or something :)
post #47 of 61
Look at the poll!
They would be best off not even releasing the player!
People want a sony player and it is realllly! weird that they aren't releasing a player for sale first!
post #48 of 61
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Originally Posted by steviec
Look at the poll!
They would be best off not even releasing the player!
Well if you have been paying even just a little bit of attention in this section, you would realise that most here want the Pioneer, Sony or PS3 as there player....and the Samsung is relegated to Toshiba status as far as past quality history.
post #49 of 61
I think samsung is being smart imho. they know people like me will buy theres because people like me have to have there hands on a blu-ray player. Hopefully this will push sony or pioneer or the many others to get theres out pretty quick.
post #50 of 61
I voted no because I am going to buy the Sony...
post #51 of 61
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Originally Posted by kevinca1
I think samsung is being smart imho. they know people like me will buy theres because people like me have to have there hands on a blu-ray player. Hopefully this will push sony or pioneer or the many others to get theres out pretty quick.

I'll buy the Samsung...however, if the Sony were to make it out at the same time...then maybe... :)
post #52 of 61
If there is a blu-ray player that I am going to buy, it's going to be Sony's BDP-S1. I am not interested in Pioneer or Samsung. My opinion of Sony DVD players went up ever since I got their current flagship DVP-NS9100ES.
post #53 of 61
For me it's simple- wait and see for a while. I'll probably buy as PS3 for gaming, secondarily as a movie box unless the price of stand alone players drops to $350 first. My first DVD player was $350 :)

The whole equasion is dependant upon avaialble content though. If there are 6 movies out (or 60 that I could care less about) I'll wait.
post #54 of 61
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX
By your logic, you can put panasonic under the "repackaged garbage" category also since they and JVC, if I understand correctly, are part of the same company.
Nope!
JVC is the Japan Victor Company, LTD.
Panasonic is owned by Matsushita, LTD

I will give JVC some credit though. They usually come into the technology party late with cheaply made and manufactured products that are usually much lower priced. I hope they do release sooner than later but everything I have read says they are going to wait until next year to release a BR drive. They don't want to pay big royalties to Sony and Panasonic the creaters of BR.
post #55 of 61
I will never understand why anyone is willing to wait on the Sony? I do understand brand loyalty. What I don't get is the fact that other than their LCOS Projector (Ruby, Not Qualia) they don't make a TV that can except a 1080P signal. I am waiting patiently for an updated version of their SXRD LCOS Rear Projection TV that is 1080p 24,30, or 60 frames per second and include the version 1.3 of HDMI. Sony has the best looking picture I have ever seen from a non CRT RP HDTV.
I am willing to bet the Sony BR Player will not have HDMI 1.3 or the full version of BD-J and will probably sell for $1499.00. At that price, why don't you just buy a PS3?
post #56 of 61
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by paintit77
Nope!
JVC is the Japan Victor Company, LTD.
Panasonic is owned by Matsushita, LTD

I will give JVC some credit though. They usually come into the technology party late with cheaply made and manufactured products that are usually much lower priced. I hope they do release sooner than later but everything I have read says they are going to wait until next year to release a BR drive. They don't want to pay big royalties to Sony and Panasonic the creaters of BR.

matsushita IS the parent company of JVC :rolleyes:
post #57 of 61
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Originally Posted by Earz
Most, if you can't already tell, don't want the Samsung name, much like the Toshiba name....its pretty much mud as far as quality sd dvd players go.
I agree with you. I wish Denon, Onkyo, etc, etc, would get off the fence and come out with either high def format. I wouldn't buy a Tosh or Samsung upscaling player, and I wouldn't buy a high def player from either manufacturer either, at least until they are out it can be verified whether they are any good.
post #58 of 61
Maybe the Sony deck, have to see how the content rolls out. One of the things I think might be worth waiting for would be a hardrive equipped model for storing some stuff then moving that stuff to BD disks if you want to archive it.

I don't know yet, because if there is suddenly tons of content I'll probably jump up and join. The sad part is that I'm enjoying so much HD content now through Comcast that I am not nearly as jumpy for an HD disc player as I might otherwise have been. Doesn't mean I don't want one though.

Just have to see how the features pan out.
post #59 of 61
BillP,

Agree with you on the Denon possibility....that would be interesting.

You bring up the issue of what would be the ultimate(or desired) features on a player. Decoders, flexability of formats, downrezing, etc...

Ideas anyone?
post #60 of 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earz
You mean this poll that has no.. no option and has been up for what 6 weeks or more.

I have been all over the net looking at polls, and Blu Ray seems to lead them......but with the pitiful amount of A/V geeks buying into either format early, I am starting to have very serious doubts as to whether either format will be around long.

There are far more A/V board members saying they will not buy either than anything.
Now, more than ever I believe the PS3 is going to make or break getting hi res video into mass Americas homes.
Other than that, my money would be on neither as a long term format unless one drops out of the War.
I share these very valid concerns.

I too am concerned with the number of HT hobbiests on HT forums who say that they will NOT be buying one of these players until after the format war is over. That doesn't bode too well for either format imo.

Anyway, I will be buying either the Sony or Pioneer Elite BR player, not the Samsung.
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