One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 450

Originally Posted by Buckeye911

I did it. I bought the 40gb PS3 today, I'm officially purple. I'm looking forward to hooking it up tomorrow. It's great to know that if I have trouble I can come right back here for answers.

Originally Posted by brahmachari99

One question: Why doesn't 40Gig support PS2 compability while 80Gig does? The 80 does it through software, so why can't 40? Don't they have the same firmware, and the same hardware?

Originally Posted by brahmachari99

So first they took out the Emotion chip, and now this graphics synthesizer?

Originally Posted by Nox

Sony claims that, but I believe it's all marketing.

Originally Posted by coolhand

PLEASE HELP!!!
The person before me didn't use HDMI and it appeared set up for 4X3. I reset it and got the picture right but now I don't have audio (I know it works, it was ok before). I am using optical and am having trouble figuring out which option is most suitable. Also, I hit the X button and it just checks off the tab (says X for enter or something). How do you select an audio option?

Originally Posted by Captain Bluey

I just bought myself a 40 Gig PS3 today and a copy of Die Hard 4.0 to go with it.

Everything seems to be working fine except for one problem - I cannot seem to access the top menu at all.

Originally Posted by Nox

Sony claims that, but I believe it's all marketing.

Originally Posted by Rookie Boy

Jay,

I set up my theater four months ago, concentrating mostly on video quality. I picked up a 875 for the reon processor, and figured "it's also 1.3, bonus, doubt it will matter much".

For the first month, I just watched Blu-ray from a PS3 through PCM and was very satisfied. I then (about 2 weeks before the Warner announcment) picked up a Toshiba A35 to watch HD-DVD movies.

For the A35, I decided to try and bitstream to the 875. Now, I don't know why, theoretically it should sound the same, but it dosen't. I do not know if the 875 is doing post processing or what, but a decoded true HD signal is very appreciatively better sounding. I test people that come over to see the theater, and unfortunately they notice it as well. (I say unfortunatly because I thought I would be done with purchasing anything else for the theater)

I did not go into this a fan or proponent of PCM vs. Bitstraming and indeed, it took me a good week of reading these forums to fully understand the difference between the two. I got so wrapped up in the proper projector, screen, and building of my room I didn't research audio codec's or different bitrates, etc. But I can tell you that now that I hear a difference every time. I suspect that the 875 is doing some type of extra processing, but whatever the case, I'll now be getting the Panasonic BD50 when it comes out so that I can bitstream to my reciever. I would get the BD-30 now, but the theater has sucked me dry until this summer anyway.

I wish the PS3 did the full bitstream, as it is my favorite piece of equipment in the rack (bang for buck, NOTHING can compare to what it delivers) but the difference in my reciever decoding the audio is so great I'm cheating myself out of the full theater experience until I can get the Panasonic.

Bottom line, theoretically they should sound the same (PCM vs. Bitstream) but particularily with the 875, it dosen't.

Wish it did.

Jason.

Originally Posted by Druthers

Wow. Its nice to get some conformation from someone else who is willing to throw his hat in the ring.

That is basically what I did but I tested out a DTS HD MA Blu-Ray. So the obvious difference in sound quality. I think I will pick up another player and test out the DD HD with the 875 and see if I feel the same.

I am almost certain that if you can get the 875 to display the frequency and bitrate of the audio stream it will prove that the PS3 is not outputting the full bandwidth.

Druthers

Originally Posted by bplewis24

There is a separate audio settings just under video settings I believe. As long as you go through the setup options and select all the available audio it should be fine. I think it's possible when you set it up for video you accidently told it to use HDMI for audio and video, whereas you only wanted video. Change audio to optical and bitstream under audio options and see what happens.
Brandon

Originally Posted by Buckeye911

I also bought and set up a 40 gig last night. I also connected with HDMI and optical for audio since my AVR is HDMI pass-through only. During setup the screen came up asking to use HDMI for video and audio. I selected "no" and the screen went blank. After about 30 seconds I pushed the back button and it returned to the same page. I selected "no" again and the screen went blank again. I waited 5 minutes this time before pushing the back button, the page came back again. This time I selected "yes" and was able to continue with the rest of the setup. After completion I had no sound so, using intuition, I went into "settings" and found audio and changed it to "optical." All is now working as it should.

This is definitely a problem with the setup process. It apparently doesn't give you the option of using HDMI for video and another connection for audio.

Originally Posted by bplewis24

I don't remember encountering this problem in the past. Perhaps it's an issue with the currrent firmware version? If I can remember I'll check on my unit tonight.

Brandon

Originally Posted by Buckeye911

I also bought and set up a 40 gig last night. I also connected with HDMI and optical for audio since my AVR is HDMI pass-through only. During setup the screen came up asking to use HDMI for video and audio. I selected "no" and the screen went blank. After about 30 seconds I pushed the back button and it returned to the same page. I selected "no" again and the screen went blank again. I waited 5 minutes this time before pushing the back button, the page came back again. This time I selected "yes" and was able to continue with the rest of the setup. After completion I had no sound so, using intuition, I went into "settings" and found audio and changed it to "optical." All is now working as it should.

This is definitely a problem with the setup process. It apparently doesn't give you the option of using HDMI for video and another connection for audio.

Originally Posted by david118383

This may be a dumb question, but does the PS3 have a built in scaler? What I mean is that my tv is 1080i and will not accept 720p, so if a game is 720p only will the PS3 scale it to 1080i or does it downconvert to 480p? I heard there was a problem with this when the PS3 first came out but haven't heard much since.

Originally Posted by Jay_Davis

Well, unless your 875 is different than my Integra 8.8, which I don't think it is, it should sound the same. In your case, you are comparing 2 completely different audio sources, so it's not a real 1:1 comparison. Have you tried playing around with the various listening modes? You may have stuff set for one type of audio source that isn't for the other.

Also, what about standard sound tracks that the PS3 can output in PCM and bitstream? Do you hear a difference switching back and forth between modes with the same source on the PS3?

Originally Posted by chris0

Go to Settings>Sound Settings>Audio Output Settings and select Digital Out (Optical)

Originally Posted by chris0

Go to Settings>Sound Settings>Audio Output Settings and select Digital Out (Optical)

Originally Posted by coolhand

Well I got that part figured out. The problem is when you select Optical out (and they have a neat picture and everything), it asks you which audio to select and gives about three or four 2 channel PCM options, DD, DTS, and maybe a few others. You can check them off but you cannot actually select to keep it that way. The only way to get out of that menu is to back out. Like I said, the audio worked fine before when the HDMI wasn't selected but like the other post mentioned, I can't get HDMI and optical to work. SO PLEASE HELP! I have people coming over for the SB. If I can't get this to work I will need to demo HD DVD stuff (OH NO!).

Chris

Originally Posted by coolhand

PLEASE HELP!!!

I bought a used PS3 a few weeks ago. I have been very busy and have been unable to take the time to get it set up. The person before me didn't use HDMI and it appeared set up for 4X3. I reset it and got the picture right but now I don't have audio (I know it works, it was ok before). I am using optical and am having trouble figuring out which option is most suitable. Also, I hit the X button and it just checks off the tab (says X for enter or something). How do you select an audio option?

Thanks in advance guys! I have a slew of new Blu-Ray movies to watch this weekend!

Originally Posted by coolhand

Well I got that part figured out. The problem is when you select Optical out (and they have a neat picture and everything), it asks you which audio to select and gives about three or four 2 channel PCM options, DD, DTS, and maybe a few others. You can check them off but you cannot actually select to keep it that way. The only way to get out of that menu is to back out. Like I said, the audio worked fine before when the HDMI wasn't selected but like the other post mentioned, I can't get HDMI and optical to work. SO PLEASE HELP! I have people coming over for the SB. If I can't get this to work I will need to demo HD DVD stuff (OH NO!).

Chris

Originally Posted by kellycromwell

Thanks for all the ideas on my problem PS3 everyone.

I'm sending the PS3 to Sony for replacement. Kept freezing up on me with Blu-Rays, DVDs and SACDs. Talked to tech support 3 times, researched lots of places for hours, no change.

Game store where I bought it won't deal with me; I wanted to replace it or get my money back. They said I have to call Sony.

Now Sony says they're going to send me a "refubished" unit after they receive mine. Seems like I should get a new one to replace the one that's only a week old. At least maybe somebody's made sure it works. And it's going to take 2 or 3 weeks to get the new one in the house. I'm not very happy with Sony or that store.

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

I am having trouble getting sound from the rear speakers connected to an Onkyo TX-SR605. It works fine in multichannel with games, but when I play movies I get no sound from them unless I turn HDMI audio out to bitstream, and then it only seems to be matrixed surround sound (DDPLx, DTS-Neo).

I was watching Goodfellas and the default audio track only gave me stereo sound, but all the others seemed to work with all the speakers for some reason. I switched to the DD True HD track on Blade Runner and I get no rear sound at all when HDMI audio is set to PCM. What am I doing wrong here?

Originally Posted by Buckeye911

... During setup the screen came up asking to use HDMI for video and audio. I selected "no" and the screen went blank. After about 30 seconds I pushed the back button and it returned to the same page. ...

Originally Posted by ALLIANCE68

Buckeye911: I think because the receiver was pass through, it was seeing the tv's audio thats why both options came up at the same time. When you said no it just turned off the hdmi completely.

Originally Posted by AarDee

This got me too, HDMI for video AND audio. I don't want that .

(back in rev. circa 1.5, by the way)

Originally Posted by ALLIANCE68

DUAL AUDIO: In the manual under audio setup in the hints section; people using the HDMI direct to their TV and OPTICAL to their RECEIVER can have sound to both if they set their PS3 audio to HDMI. This will allow audio to go to the TV by HDMI for late night gaming and movies. I know some people have asked about this option and I think this is what people are seeing done on utube.

Originally Posted by chris0

There may be a setting in your 605 that is wrong but I can't help you with that. (I know you get rear sound in games but it may be different with the PCM track, I don't know.) In the PS3 audio menu, did you check off all the 5.1 options?

Originally Posted by gsf4726

Can anyone confirm that this works? I tried this when I was setting up my ps3 initially, but didn't work. Everyone online said it wasn't possible. But after reading this I tried it again, and still only audio out of hdmi OR optical, but not both simultaneously. I'm on 2.10 also. Am I missing something? Is it dependent on the HDMI source?