One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 452

Need your help ASAP please.

I'm finally running my HDMI cables down the wall from my new projector to my PS3 and had a silly question. Are they uni - directional? Just want to make sure before I run them. Better safe than sorry. Thanks.

Yes, they are uni-directional.

Edit: Actually they're bi-directional, but I knew what Lookhear meant and I think he knew what I meant.

Thanks ChrisO for the instant answer. I can't believe that I'll be all done today, hopefully, and crossing my fingers that all will work OK.

Things change. I bought the 60G when it dropped from its original price to $499. There was no 80G announced at the time. Now I think the 60G is out of production but you can still find them. I haven't done the research but perhaps the 60G is the only model (apart from the 20G) that have the emotion chip. The 80G does it in software (PS2 backwards compatibility) and the new 40G doesn't have it at all.

Now the 80G is $499 now and the 40G is $399 so there is only $100 difference. From my point of view, the HD size is not so important. You can always stuff in a 200G drive later if you wish. I have no need myself since I only store demos on the HD and saved games and all other content is streamed from my network.

So you pay your money, you take your choice

Larry

heh, who knows, my sub can disbehave sometimes.

Whell, actually the problem accors with all BD's so far. I don't play games on the PS3. I first noticed it with Happy Feet, but after that also with HP: order of the phoenix and yesterday also with Die Hard 4.0 .

The SiI9132 is basically a HDMI 1.3 chip on the video side, but only a HDMI 1.2 chip on the audio side. Even the Silicon Image website has some clues to this. Basically the audio section is pretty much the same as earlier HDMI 1.2a products. That also means that the chip will still pass 24bit/192khz PCM across all 8 channels if asked (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA decode to 24bit/96khz). Why is the 9132 only HDMI 1.2? I believe it lacks the necessary I2S bus hardware that it used bythe 9134 transmitter chip as well as transmitter and receiver chips used by Solicon Image and other vendors. Without this technology that was added to HDMI in version 1.3, passing of the compressed codecs doesn't look plausible.

BTW, the 9132 may have had its first application in the PS3, but it's not marketed as a PS3 only part. It's marketed to video card and PC board manufacturers that need HDMI 1.3 compatible video but audio is not a high priority feature (hence the HDMI 1.2 section of the chip). If you want the full featured chip, use the 9134 meant for CE manufacturers to use in hi-def players.

No only when watching a BD or SD does that occur.I have a Vizio 42" GV42LF LCD 1080p TV.Most likely it was a handshake issue.

Anyway after I posted my question I disconnected the HDMI and Toshlink cables,unplugged my PS3 and reconnected everything watched Family Guy Blue Harvest DVD and all is back to normal now.

i agree the ps3 is a solid investment. when so many stand alones suffer from quirks and "i can't do that" the ps3 has always excelled at what it does. i have two ps3 units and a panny b10a and bd30 and am more impressed with the ps3 units even without dts-ma decoding. ps3 has never let me down and i love these demos and when i get the games i know ahead i will like them. bcw is a main issue for me though i have a lot of ps1,2 games and i do not want two machines in the rack just this one.

This is not totally correct. Myself and others have posted in several threads, related to the PS3, a link to paper by the manufacturer of the SiL9132 where it talks about the PS3 being the first HDMI 1.3 equipped product and also mentions that the SiL9134, designed for stand alone players, adds the support for the advanced audio formats. Thus indirectly saying the SiL9132 doesn't have this capability. See the 3rd para. from this Silicon Image press release:
http://www.siliconimage.com/news/pre...se.aspx?id=384

Ron Jones

Absolutely true. And after doing the demos we have purchased Ratchet and Clank, COD4 and also Resistance Fall of Man. Looking at Drake next and of course GH3 . Finally Blacksite Area 51 looks pretty cool also. Plus I have about 30 BR titles (and about 20 HD-DVD titles) that I will have to find time to get to if I can wrest the PS3 away from the kids!

Why are component outs still crippled at 480p for protected discs? No on would bother copying over component. I still got my AE-100 projector that has component ins running off an LG upconverting player, hoping to replace it with the PS3. This peeves me off to no end!

Absolutely true. And after doing the demos we have purchased Ratchet and Clank, COD4 and also Resistance Fall of Man. Looking at Drake next and of course GH3 . Finally Blacksite Area 51 looks pretty cool also. Plus I have about 30 BR titles (and about 20 HD-DVD titles) that I will have to find time to get to if I can wrest the PS3 away from the kids!

I don't think they are unidirectional. HDMI has "handshaking" between devices, so that must mean they are communicating back and forth.

You're right, and "uni-directional" means only in one direction. Luckily Lookhear and I seemed to be on the same page as far as misusing that word to mean "can be plugged in either way."

It sounds like a video equipment error somewhere, but it could be with the PS3's output, your TV's input or maybe even the HDMI connectors on the PS3 or TV. I'd try switching inputs or connecting some other HDMI video device to troubleshoot.

Glad it all works for you now.

This is a joke, right? Or is it a problem dealing with the old, dead Latin language?

uni=one (way) in this context
omni= universal (both ways) in the same context

HDMI cables are omni directional

And for everyone out there that may have RCA audio cables with little arrows on the outer jackets, nothing will blow up if you have the source to device direction wrong. Of course depending upon the phase of the moon and the proximity of Mars .... some know what I'm getting at.

Enjoy Super Bowl Sunday

Joe

I'm sorry, but I did a search in this huge thread for my question. Couldn't really get a consensus.
How is SD up conversion picture quality on the PS3? I am about to switch over to BR from HDDVD and my current Toshiba A-1 is excellent for this.
Does the PS3 compare to the Toshiba?
Thanks

PS3 is considered to be an excellent upconverter. How it compares to the A1, I cannot say. I am constantly amazed at the PS3's quality. I can safely say that you will not be disapointed.

ej

Drake was a lot of fun. I just beat it today. Will most likely replace it with COD4.

Most people call the Toshiba XA2 the best upconverting DVD player available.

I put my XA2 up against my PS3 on my JVC 56" 1080p RPTV.

I found the XA2 to be a little bit better, when comparing it directly. The difference was just noticeable, not a big difference at all.

Since the A1 is worse at upconverting than the XA2, I can only speculate that the PS3 will meet or beat it.

Well my son is fair way through COD4 and it's fun to watch him play and make his way through it. Very realistic in terms of action, backdrops, graphics. I know I couldn't what he does but I do offer arm chair advice!

Thanks for the suggestion.

I turned auto start OFF, but the movie still plays as soon as I select it from the menu.

The BD must simply not have any menus?

I am going to be purchasing a blue ray player for my new samsung 71 lcd.....Is the PS3 a good blue ray player, i do like games but already have an xbox360 so the gaming isnt really to important, all tho its nice......but i really want a blue ray player that will have as many features as is needed.....So....am i better off getting a PS3 or a stand alone blue ray player?

Blu-ray, not "blue ray."

As for the PS3, nope. It's a crapola Blu-ray player. Surely you've heard that? I can't think of anyone who thinks it's any good. I mean, you've seen the PS3 threads? Right?

Gotta agree, I just got one Friday and hated how it took at least 4 minutes to get the wireless network connected. And then I wasted ALMOST ALL DAY yesterday downloading the free game demos and trying them, and then was forced to watch Ratatouille and Pixar collection in much better than the SD discs I used to have.

Seriously, the main thing I found lacking were no analog outputs for my non-HDMI receiver. Otherwise a very very nicely built multi purpose unit.

If you get the PS3 get the remote for like $20.00.

I just tried this yesteday. It does not work with 2.10. Only one output at a time.

I am thinking of buying a PS3 for use mostly as a blu ray player. My Sony LCD only has one HDMI input which is currently in use.

I want to use an HDMI to DVI wire to connect the PS3 to my LCD.

Will this give me the same picture quality as HDMI to HDMI?

Also from reading this forum, I understand that the PS3 has an optical out for sound. Correct?

Thanks in advance guys.

Say hello to the HDMI switch. Oppo makes good ones.